Re: [Discuss] UEFI secure boot pre-loader security considered further Re: Fwd: [linux_forensics] Did you see this ? - Linux Foundation Announces Secure Boot Solution ....

2012-11-05 Thread Rich Pieri
On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:00:56 -0400 Tom Metro wrote: > I haven't seen any recent articles that have made this claim. What I The Linux Foundation article that sparked this thread repeatedly made precisely this claim. > have seen expressed is a concern that non-technical users

Re: [Discuss] UEFI secure boot pre-loader security considered further Re: Fwd: [linux_forensics] Did you see this ? - Linux Foundation Announces Secure Boot Solution ....

2012-11-05 Thread Tom Metro
Rich Pieri wrote: > Jerry Feldman wrote: >> The bottom line here is that UEFI will prevent some Linux users from >> installing Linux, especially in the near future. > > No, it will not. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either lying or has > bought into the anti-Microsoft propaganda. There is no

Re: [Discuss] UEFI secure boot pre-loader security considered further Re: Fwd: [linux_forensics] Did you see this ? - Linux Foundation Announces Secure Boot Solution ....

2012-11-02 Thread Rich Pieri
On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 10:17:21 -0400 Jerry Feldman wrote: > The bottom line here is that UEFI will prevent some Linux users from > installing Linux, especially in the near future. I suspect that all No, it will not. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either lying or has bought into the anti-Microso

Re: [Discuss] UEFI secure boot pre-loader security considered further Re: Fwd: [linux_forensics] Did you see this ? - Linux Foundation Announces Secure Boot Solution ....

2012-11-02 Thread Jerry Feldman
The bottom line here is that UEFI will prevent some Linux users from installing Linux, especially in the near future. I suspect that all major distros will be able to install on a UEFI system with very little user interaction. However, we also need to gain some knowledge so that when we do encounte

[Discuss] UEFI secure boot pre-loader security considered further Re: Fwd: [linux_forensics] Did you see this ? - Linux Foundation Announces Secure Boot Solution ....

2012-11-02 Thread Bill Ricker
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Rich Pieri wrote: > This is a lie. Harsh. Not all errors are lies. Sometimes people are just wrong without malice. Writing is an inexact science. Sometimes editing for style destroys accuracy, even with formerly technical people doing it. The statement is closer

Re: [Discuss] Fwd: [linux_forensics] Did you see this ? - Linux Foundation Announces Secure Boot Solution ....

2012-11-01 Thread Rich Pieri
> this UEFI specification associates the firmware with a signing key > that prohibits users from installing a new operating system. The This is a lie. UEFI Secure Boot prohibits the running of an unsigned boot loader and it prevents modification to itself. This is all UEFI Secure Boot does. Once U

[Discuss] Fwd: [linux_forensics] Did you see this ? - Linux Foundation Announces Secure Boot Solution ....

2012-11-01 Thread Scott Ehrlich
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Re: Linux Foundation Memberships

2010-12-16 Thread David Miller
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 6:36 AM, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > They are Linux Torvalds employer, and Ted T'so also, so I don't see how > you could call it a scam. > > Except Ted T'so works for Google. I'm not saying that the Linux Foundation doesn't do any

Re: Linux Foundation

2010-12-16 Thread Chris O'Connell
eiman >wrote: > > > 1. Linux Foundation Memberships (Chris O'Connell) > > I've been looking at getting a membership at Linux Foundation.org for a > > while now. The benefits don't seem so great that they justify the > > membership costs, but mayb

Re: Linux Foundation

2010-12-16 Thread Rob Hasselbaum
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Steven L. Kleiman wrote: > 1. Linux Foundation Memberships (Chris O'Connell) > I've been looking at getting a membership at Linux Foundation.org for a > while now. The benefits don't seem so great that they justify the > memb

Re: Linux Foundation

2010-12-16 Thread Kent Borg
Steven L. Kleiman wrote: > Is the membership largely a scam or does the foundation actually > further the use of Linux? I went to their Linuxcon conference this summer and learned useful things, so that's worth something. They seem to put their conference proceedings online, for free. I am pret

Linux Foundation

2010-12-16 Thread Steven L. Kleiman
1. Linux Foundation Memberships (Chris O'Connell) I've been looking at getting a membership at Linux Foundation.org for a while now. The benefits don't seem so great that they justify the membership costs, but maybe I'm missing the overall point? Does anyone in our organ

Re: Linux Foundation Memberships

2010-12-16 Thread Daniel Feenberg
Does anyone in > our organization have a Linux Foundation membership? Any reasons to buy or > not to? Is the membership largely a scam or does the foundation actually > further the use of Linux? They are Linux Torvalds employer, and Ted T'so also, so I don't see how y

Linux Foundation Memberships

2010-12-15 Thread Chris O'Connell
Guys, I've been looking at getting a membership at Linux Foundation.org for a while now. The benefits don't seem so great that they justify the membership costs, but maybe I'm missing the overall point? Does anyone in our organization have a Linux Foundation membership? Any re