Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, Paul Slootman wrote: > Note also that ssh is very particular about permissions of all directories > concerned, e.g. if /, /root, or /root/.ssh are in any way writeable by > others, ssh will refuse to use any keys as those may have been > manipulated. Ideally /root and /root/.s

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019, wes wrote: > Ok, try ssh -vi /root/.ssh/id_ed25519 localhost Wes, This is very interesting: # ssh -vi id_ed25519 localhost OpenSSH_7.4p1, OpenSSL 1.0.2t 10 Sep 2019 debug1: Reading configuration data /root/.ssh/config debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread Paul Slootman
On Thu 24 Oct 2019, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Wed, 23 Oct 2019, wes wrote: > > > Ok, try ssh -vi /root/.ssh/id_ed25519 localhost > > Wes, > > This is very interesting: > > # ssh -vi id_ed25519 localhost Note you're not doing what Wes suggested. You're missing the path to the identity file, whi

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, Paul Slootman wrote: > Note you're not doing what Wes suggested. You're missing the path to the > identity file, which is OK if your current directory is /root/.ssh . Paul, I happened to be in root/s .ssh/ directory when I ran the command. > First with, and the without the

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread Paul Slootman
BTW, did you try already removing the root@ from the client: line? On Thu 24 Oct 2019, Rich Shepard wrote: > > I happened to be in root/s .ssh/ directory when I ran the command. OK > > First with, and the without the path? > > With the absolute path: > # ssh -vi /root/.ssh/id_ed25519 localhos

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, Paul Slootman wrote: > Or the ssh thing just worked and you never noticed that it was using ssh. Paul, That is the case. > I would change this to just: > client: salmo.appl-ecosys.com Done. > Dirvish will then "know" that it's a local transfer. Adding a username > forces

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, Paul Slootman wrote: > BTW, did you try already removing the root@ from the client: line? Paul, Yes. I did. > Somehow the server rejects the id_ed25519 public key. This is the continuing problem. > I see that in my system (Debian) sshd messages are logged in > /var/log/au

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread Przemek Klosowski
I didn't follow the entire thread, but seeing that it sees your keys but refuses to use them, sometimes that is caused by sshd being picky about the permissions on the key file. THey have to be rw---, which is weird because Linux uses UID=GID, so group permissions aren't relevant. Please make s

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > I didn't follow the entire thread, but seeing that it sees your keys but > refuses to use them, sometimes that is caused by sshd being picky about the > permissions on the key file. Przemek, # ll .ssh/ total 20 -rw--- 1 root root 92 Oct 24 07:

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread Przemek Klosowski
that looks good, so it must be something else. The .ssh directory itself has to be drwx-- (ls -ld /root/.ssh, or wherever your root's .ssh is) BTW the 'remote' system is the localhost, which you're ssh-ing to. So look at the sshd daemon messages on your local system. if your system uses syste

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > that looks good, so it must be something else. The .ssh directory itself > has to be drwx-- (ls -ld /root/.ssh, or wherever your root's .ssh is) Przemek, Those are the perms. > BTW the 'remote' system is the localhost, which you're ssh-ing to

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread Eric V. Smith
I’m not sure my phone is quoting this entire message. Apologies if this is messed up. I find that “ssh -vv” (two v’s) is helpful for debugging permission problems. -- Eric V. Smith (301) 502-0945 cell > On Oct 24, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Przemek Klosowski > wrote: > ___

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, Eric V. Smith wrote: > I’m not sure my phone is quoting this entire message. Apologies if this is > messed up. Eric, Phone must be too small for the message. :-) > I find that “ssh -vv” (two v’s) is helpful for debugging permission > problems. Here it makes no difference o

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread wes
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 10:12 AM Rich Shepard wrote: > > > I find that “ssh -vv” (two v’s) is helpful for debugging permission > > problems. > > Here it makes no difference over the output of a single 'v.' The debug2 > rows > concern ciphers. > > At this point we've established that the SSH clien

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, wes wrote: > At this point we've established that the SSH client is doing its job > properly. The problem resides with the SSH server component. We need to > find its logs. > > Try grep -i ssh /var/log/* and see if anything pops up. Wes, Mea culpa! I should have looked for s

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread wes
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:48 AM Rich Shepard wrote: > > /var/log/messages:Oct 21 06:02:02 salmo sshd[11376]: User root from > 192.168.55.1 not allowed because not listed in AllowUser > > I just added root to sshd_config's AllowUsers, then stopped and restarted > sshd. No joy: > > # dirvish --vau

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, wes wrote: > Ok, check the logs again after having made that config change? Is the > error still the same? Yes. > Is there any PermitRootLogin related option in sshd_config? No. Only: AllowUsers rshepard,root Rich ___ Dirvish mai

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, wes wrote: > If that doesn't work, we may have to run sshd in debug mode. Wes, That's what we've done: using the -v (verbose) option. I cannot find any other debug mode than that option. Regards, Rich ___ Dirvish mailing list Dir

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread wes
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 12:45 PM Rich Shepard wrote: > On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, wes wrote: > > > If that doesn't work, we may have to run sshd in debug mode. > > Wes, > > That's what we've done: using the -v (verbose) option. I cannot find any > other debug mode than that option. > > That was in rega

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, wes wrote: > That was in regards to running the _client_ with debug output. Doing this > with the server is slightly more complicated. Wes, Oh. I tried a web search for 'sshd debug' and found no relevant hits. FWIW, before the old desktop died I regulary used rsync and scp

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, wes wrote: > That was in regards to running the _client_ with debug output. Doing this > with the server is slightly more complicated. Wes, Okay. # /usr/sbin/sshd -D -d -E sshd-debug.log -f /etc/ssh/sshd_config -p sshd-debug.log: debug1: sshd version OpenSSH_7.4, OpenSSL

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:00 PM Rich Shepard wrote: > On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > > > that looks good, so it must be something else. The .ssh directory itself > > has to be drwx-- (ls -ld /root/.ssh, or wherever your root's .ssh is) > > Those are the perms. > You did sh

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > You did show the perms for the files (shown with ls -l /root/.ssh ) but > what are the perms for the directory, as shown with ls -ld? # ls -ld .ssh/ drwx-- 2 root root 4096 Oct 23 15:09 .ssh/ Rich _

Re: [Dirvish] Setting up new backup

2019-10-24 Thread Paul Slootman
On Thu 24 Oct 2019, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Thu, 24 Oct 2019, wes wrote: > > > Ok, check the logs again after having made that config change? Is the > > error still the same? > > Yes. > > > Is there any PermitRootLogin related option in sshd_config? > > No. Only: AllowUsers rshepard,root Then