find bugs,
and if you cannot adapt - fork. Back Mike up!
If you want push backups, fork your own version and call
that new program hsivrid.
Whichever way you go from here, it's been a wonderful
journey together - you are grand people, one and all.
ny gender, or none. In my limited experience,
guys are more likely to use their wedding tackle
inappropriately, especially as a thinking device.
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espect for the needs and
abilities of a broad range of users.
We do this to help each other. Be good!
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c to simply rsync with -H
> (to preserve hardlinks) the entire vault to another machine?
I make daily backups of all my machines to one server,
and a second weekend backup to another at a different
site. If for some reason the daily server doesn't
catch something, the other will.
Keith
that remains, and
I must focus on those. I hope the rest of you will have
enough time to complete your own important tasks.
We are defined by what we make, not by what we take.
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(while Willy Ley and others ... left). I'm
not looking for who to blame, the same thing could have
happened to me. Understanding /why/ is how we avoid
hurting others with our obsessions.
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Don't waste your vote in 2016! Give it to the R
t through a limited range of branches.
Matthias, I hope you continue the conversation and
provide more specific information for us, so that this
mailing list thread will lead to a helpful solution.
Otherwise, the question and answers so far will frustrate
many other people using search engines to fi
nly here to help each other!
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l and helpful people here, it is
difficult to imagine that any of us could be so thoughtless.
3) I'll close by saying you are an awesome group of people.
It has been a joyful inspiration to help others with you.
Never stop helping others. We are why F/OSS works.
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On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 08:23:04PM +0200, Johannes Kastl wrote:
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> On 30.06.14 08:30 Keith Lofstrom wrote:
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> > I do have some pre and post scripts that fail per client when the
> > machines are down or removed,
&
e has come in handy. I had a laptop drive
fail 30 minutes before a presentation at a conference. Fortunately,
I had my baby screwdriver and the other drive in my travel bag, and
did a drive swap minutes before I went on stage. It was a geek
conference so I got extra points for that. :-)
ing public way?
Discussion off the list until we think this through.
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hat started. But please keep in
mind the installed base, and the consequences of "improvements".
FYI, I migrated the wiki to Moin, and can give access to others.
The wiki has been abused in the past, so I am judicious but not
miserly in my trust.
Keith
thub.
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e with a different machine and
different cabling. Or bring it in to the Linux Clinic on
Sunday.
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of space for data. More suggestions
follow your observation.
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four times per hour? Or send them
"recent changes" lists instead of them repeatedly downloading the
same files? Any other ideas for calming down the web crawlers?
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ites. This
can be done on the backup machine after backups are complete.
Perhaps our community could begin the development of a program
for this, and deploy it after Surety's first patents expire.
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perfect timing
holds, you may encounter the same error with another mailing
list soon, and you will be able to help that sysadmin fix it.
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this is a test
Keith
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_
op-up explanations, etc. That could
allow the non-programmers among us to contribute text and
explanations and runtime scripts for dirvish. All pretty
vague and handwavy, but there are some smart people here.
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needed
after all. Subversion will be most likely to break,
since I will be testing browser access first.
The mailing list should not be affected. I hope.
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unambiguous answers, which a bot can't easily
figure out, please email them to me.
---
Well, enjoy your new wiki. I spent most of the weekend, and the early
part of the last two evenings, making the conversions. I hope to have
kwiki (and the wikispammers who use it) off my se
business, and working on
Server Sky ( http://server-sky.com ). Lots to do.
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ore secure. I deploy it for other
wikis. However, the translation will have time. For the
next three months, I don't have it.
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Desi
have run out of inodes, and at the time there were no available
tools for efficiently copying data to reformatted partitions. Sigh.
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hing useful.
Here is a very old writeup that describes some of my scripts:
http://www.keithl.com/linuxbackup.html
Needs updating and correcting - six years old! - but it should give
you some ideas. BTW, JW disliked the illustration, which is why it
is not on the website.
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er, I am working 18x7 these days, and don't have
time to do the content translation. If someone volunteers to move
content (cut and paste? yikes!), I can turn on moin.divish.org
sometime next week.
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e called "divish-restore-ultra". A better programmer
than I can write it. Similarly, perhaps someone can write
a guide to setting up a computer for maximum dirvish/rsync
friendliness. But those hypothetical people have more time
than I do.
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ther. Hopefully the rest of the list,
and especially the Debian/Ubuntu folk, can help you further.
Keith
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, and especially if you can
(optionally) merge the hardlinks of identical files, you would be a
hero to me. I just don't know whether there is a good way to do it.
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I got subscription requests to three of the mailing lists I run
for three different names from zeusmail.org. Spamsign; I
moderated them. Unless I hear otherwise, I will block that domain.
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500 cases with EarthWatt power supplies
and extra 120mm slow fans. These cases very quiet and efficient,
and with luck the higher efficiency and multiple slow 120mm fans
means less waste heat and fewer hot spots. I'll tell you in three
years whether they meet my expectations for durab
o job one
for any potential development leader is convincing us.
Until then, it works, don't break it. I would love to see
many improvements, primarily modularization and testing, but
I have neither the time or the skills to make that happen.
Look at my home page for my current activities.
are always on
the same side of the firewall, this is not a problem.
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practice doing restores onto the spares. That way, when a
crisis occurs and a new drive has to be built from bare metal,
the restore can be done with minimum time and effort (leaving
time for all the other simultaneous crises implied by restores).
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ugh most reviews
were positive. My drive formatted and stored at least a few
gigabytes OK, so time will tell.
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e complex and
situation-specific stuff with relatively simple pre- and post- scripts.
I should post the scripts I use to the wiki. Real Soon Now.
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cascading dirvish error. If some of
the backups take more than 24 hours, well, that is better
than no backups at all.
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ks on the list would like some (let Loren know!).
My own long term plan is to go to E-SATA. I assume the drives can be
powered down like other ATA drives, and they are faster and better
supported than USB. I would like a switch-box for those also, for
the extra security involved.
Keith
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of lead glass into land fills every
time a picture tube burns out or a television is discarded.
Sadly, high defect density in the read valves (a few dozen spots per
image) killed the project. The venture capitalists pulled the plug
before the process could be improved. However, I expect somebo
2 hardware do and don't work.
Again, I suggest using E-SATA instead.
Keith
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typically cost $20-$40. A PCI-slot 4 port SATA controller is
also around $40. Since SATA is becoming cheaper than IDE,
and is faster than IDE and USB2, this is the best long term
way to go.
If you learn something new, add it to the wiki. Good luck!
Keith
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them decide what to do about it.
Those considering getting Yahoo email accounts should keep this
behavior in mind. If you want an offsite email address, I
suggest moving to a provider with a less uncooperative blend of
monopolistic incompetence, like Google's Gmail.
Keith
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y not the
best place to ask Slackware/RSH questions.
Your best bet is to ask questions on a Slackware list about setting
up RSH. There are a few people in the Portland area running Slackware,
so you can ask on the Portland Linux User's Group list at
http://www.pdxlinux.org . Good luc
rsion repository, and rebuilt the
dirvish-1.2.1.tar file and the associated md5sum file. Hopefully
I got all that right. There should be no functional changes at
all in dirvish, and I hope the distributions downstream will
pick up on the small changes and the new md5sum checksum.
Keith
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he mix of old
and new versions on different clients can be somewhat unpredictable.
Thus, you will want to link-dest to every other client in the same
branch, resulting in an N^2 amount of computation and disk lookup.
That might be an interesting experiment to try.
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HOWTO
and put it on the dirvish wiki ...
Keith
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a script file in your
home directory and execute it with "sh ~/scriptfile", for extra
safety, after scrutinizing it 3 or 4 times. An extra space in
there could ruin your whole day ...
Keith
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rvish is creating huge images
and not using hardlinks, filling up your backup disk too fast, there
may be other problems. The helpful people on this list can help
after you have made an effort characterize your problem.
Welcome to dirvish!
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(kernel used,
version of rsync, which controllers and disks, etc) and some of
the statistics from the logs, and we might be able to help you
with that difficult task.
Keith
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> On Thursday 06 March 2008 09:21:53 am Keith Lofstrom wrote:
...
> > See also the ancient: http://wiki.dirvish.org/index.cgi?CopyingDisks
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 09:33:52AM -0700, Shawn (Red Mop) wrote:
> Tar is actually very fast. I used it to split a bank about a month ago.
t used to double the
size of an active partition - scary!), and will try them on a
dirvish bank soon.
See also the ancient: http://wiki.dirvish.org/index.cgi?CopyingDisks
Keith
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ith a trustworthy SATA to PATA adapter
if necessary? A direct drive-to-drive copy will be faster than
the network, encrypted or not.
Daniel, Audio Precision is not far from me; I probably have some
unused swap cages if you want to borrow them for a while.
Keith
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If you don't see behavior approximately like that, perhaps you can
share some fragments of your log and summary files with us. Don't
send the complete files -- too much to read!
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on,
of course. Perhaps we should collect some data from dirvish users, and
see what the ratio of data to inode usage is in various circumstances.
Keith
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to write it, but doesn't trust their English
skills, I would be glad to help them edit it. The wiki would be a
good place to start.
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hat estimates space saved with
each delete, and helps the sysadmin understand what may be lost.
3) Safe ways of thoroughly testing (2), and dirvish tools in general.
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tly and securely. A small pile
of USB drives has got to be cheaper than the network and disk
bandwidth to get everyone backed up over a coffee break.
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More Administrivia:
On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 12:28:25PM -0800, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
> Undefined subroutine &Scalar::Util::weaken called at (eval 27) line 4.
> at lib/Spoon/Base.pm line 89
> Spoon::Base::__ANON__('Undefined subroutine &Scalar::Util::weaken
ty good about sharing most things (Rendezvous, for example).
Keith
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calar/Util.pm , where it
belonged ). The technique that actually fixed it was forced reloading of
Scalar::Util and Spiffy :
perl -MCPAN -e shell
cpan> force install Spiffy
cpan> force install Scalar::Util
cpan> quit
I don't really understand why that worked, but it did. Unforced ins
nvert the wiki to MoinMoin, which is a
well-written and well-supported Python wiki, used by many of my
friends.
Well, it is time to apply my limited Perl skills to debugging that
failure. Thanks ( :-/ ) for pointing it out.
Keith
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On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 01:59:23AM +0100, Darren Hook wrote:
> Hi Keith,
>
> On 9/29/07, Keith Lofstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Since version 2.6.4, rsync has allowed multiple --link-dest target
> > directories. If a file is not found in the first --link-dest ta
ption.
Perhaps you have better ideas. Perhaps it isn't worth it, because
it uses extra disk accesses to save some disk space and network
bandwidth, and that may not be a good tradeoff. What do you think?
Keith
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reative, perhaps by faking the image metadata using a text editor,
based on an existing example. The files are not too complicated.
If you figure that out, let us know.
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> Keith Lofstrom wrote:
> > Many different SATA-PATA bridge boards are available. Perhaps some
> > of you would like to try some of the other possibilities. With all
> > the different options, I expect some will fail, either immediately
> > or after a few hours, but
Many different SATA-PATA bridge boards are available. Perhaps some
of you would like to try some of the other possibilities. With all
the different options, I expect some will fail, either immediately
or after a few hours, but it would help to learn what works.
Keith
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Keith Lofstrom wrote:
...
> This means that some of my backups are "protected by air gap" from
...
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 04:41:28PM -0400, Damian Cunniff wrote:
> At the risk of sounding dumb (which I am) and drifting off topic (which
> this does) can you explain what you me
ot swap is supported by the kernel,
if appropriate commands are run before and after the swap.
Is anyone actually doing this? If not, would anyone like to try?
Keith
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haps there is some
good way to encrypt the offsite storage to reduce risks.
Any comments?
Keith
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to
replace the "mkdir" in the dirvish script with something that will do
"mkdir -p" properly, and that can go into a patch of dirvish, and a
future version of dirvish if enough dirvish users want to participate
to make that happen.
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good ...).
Learn about what is actually happening, and think through what you
want to make happen, and you will find your solution.
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De
/test , and start
posting messages to that whenever you think something might be broken.
Thanks;
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Testing the list - it was not mailing out from my server.
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on the wiki. Open source is not "zero-cost"
software; you pay with your participation.
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On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 03:58:41PM -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
...
> I am going to revert my systems with prelink -ra, then turn it off,
> then run another set of "checksum: 1" backups. Yes, prelink speeds
...
On another list, Jon Peatfield of Cambridge University pointed out
Keith Lofstrom - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> So, a request! Could some of you try adding the line:
>
>checksum: 1
>
>To your dirvish master.conf file, so that dirvish runs this way
>over the weekend?
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 07:46:30PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I
thought-provoking article that most of you should read. It
provides some real-world data to help make decisions about backups
and the type of drives to do them on.
Keith
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On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 11:21:42PM -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
> So, a request! Could some of you try adding the line:
>
> checksum: 1
After too little sleep, I woke from a nightmare about hard drives
overheating. Checksum=1 /really/ thrashes the source and the
target hard dr
yte. The 6X worst case is
when both the source and backup drives are on the same machine.
It's all read time, at 1.2GB/minute in some cases, and that can
take a LONG time.
BTW, I woke to nightmares about this, see the major warning in
the next message before doing "checksum=1=".
her time.
Backup, file updates, and file integrity are three aspects of
what is really one problem.
Keith
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sks
BTW, while we are on the subject of the wiki, many of our users are
German speakers. If someone can suggest a good organization for a
parallel set of German pages (or Dutch, or Chinese, or Sanskrit), and
wants to start translating, that would be "extra sausages" for me! :-
r his mail to the
list for a while.
I cannot promise to always keep the list spam free, but I will
remove spammers as soon as I can practically do so. The rules:
1) dirvish/rsync/disk/backup related, please
2) no spam
3) no html-only email
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The bottom line is that you need enough storage to do this, and
rsync, the core of dirvish, doesn't do everything well. For the
vast bulk of your files, it is magic. For giant files, all it
can do is make new daily copies of them, chewing up disk space
rapidly.
I hope that helps .
Busy people hit "n" now.
If you get this, it means the dirvish mailing list shows some signs
of life on the new server. If it shows up in the archives, the list
is even more lively.
If you do not get this, you are forbidden to read it! :-)
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Busy people hit "n" now.
If you get this, it means the dirvish mailing list shows some signs
of life on the new server.
If you don't get this, you are forbidden to read it! :-)
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I am moving to a larger virtual server, and from a RHEL 4 to a RHEL
5 clone. The dirvish mailing list may be shaky for a few days.
Keith
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backup
drives occasionally, to protect some of the backups from vandalism,
power supply failure, etc. USB2 storage makes it possible, and
the speed and robustness is getting better with time.
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add to it. I am especially interested in USB2 to IDE
smart cables, cheap/fast/good .
Keith
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i, but the captcha
gets us back on line for now. Captcha isn't perfect, but it should
slow down at least some of the bots so I can do something besides
clean up after them.
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the toy environments and
automated tests are complete, but right now all I see are people
talking about it, but not taking responsibility for doing it (and I
am afraid that includes me).
So, either somebody volunteers to writes the automated tests, or a
bunch of somebodies volunteer to test
testing their changes in multiple
environments. I will help with the testing myself, and can devote
an experimental dirvish server to trying out new code. Who else
will participate in testing?
Keith
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n,
setting up both mysql and php and locking them down. I am still
seriously considering TWiki, which is evolving rapidly and has many
good features, but I am waiting for a simpler but authenticated skin.
Kwiki is getting full time support now, so I expect it to improve fast)
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Sunday, and you sysadmins running mixed shops can plan on a week
or two of hell.
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ons.
Note there are plenty of other wiki options; most involve a language
change. If I am making changes, I will change to a well known option,
and MediaWiki is the best known. Hence the two options, please don't
argue for a third.
Keith
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the pages. :-/
Oh well, this is what happens when you allow psychopaths near computers.
Keith
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KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon"
Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analo
7;t IRC myself, but if
folks tell me this is working out OK, I will put a link on the website.
Keith
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KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon"
Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMO
won't maintain an IRC channel on dirvish.org, but I would be glad
to point at one on another host, if someone else takes responsibility
for it.
Keith
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