t to mention, once I've compiled it, I'm not certain how to
replace the UML in dia with that, ie: how do you compile plug-ins?
Can anyone give me a hint about how I can increase the number of
connection points on the top/bottom of a Class in the UML s
ections)
>
> Probably a good idea to have a define for the number of normal
> connections.
Yes, a #DEFINE will be how I go about changing it.
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might actually be wise to revise my patch to make the first 8 points
always be the four corners and four centrepoints between the corners, then
the additional points be the rest...? It would make the code more
complex but would make sure upgrading from 8-point schemas to X-point
schemas always works fi
can
start using the .dia I've opened.
Any clues how to fix this?
And of course the only font that ever works is the Adobe courier font. I'd
kind of like to use others...
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7;
So I'm sorry I can't check this patch. It should work fine, there's
nothing complex that I've done to create this patch and the code I've
patched here worked when I changed 0.90 to do the same.
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On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 22:42:52 +0200
Cyrille Chepelov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> diff -urN dia-0.90-pristine dia-0.90-modified
Sure. Attached. Except it's Dia via CVS as of five minutes ago, rather
than 0.90.
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Descr
t connections[8];
+ ConnectionPoint connections[UMLCLASS_CONNECTIONPOINTS];
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I released two days ago a script I, in poor judgement, called "dia2sql"
which is a replacement for dia2sql.
I've renamed it to "tedia2sql" meaning Tim Ellis' dia2sql script. The
current version is 0.58.
Changelog includes: Sybase support, Postgres support,
idn't bother adding
links to Oracle, Sybase, DB2, MSSQL, or MySQL... sorry.
http://faemalia.net/tedia2sql
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nvert that ERD into a SQL DDL
script for multiple databases with Oracle and Postgres support fully
functional and tested by me. Sybase support 95% complete (DDL SQL is
well-formed).
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ps -- Mr. Lowden, received your email saying you possibly received my
emails, but
an error...
When I print to a .ps file and view it in GV, I get some various fonts,
but in the actual Dia design window, it's always Courier...
Is this in my Dia setup, or is it a bug that's being worked on, or what?
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but it looks something like that).
Do I need to be downloading some particular font pack, or running some X
fonts generation script?
I've got Mandrake 8.1 which seems to be a pretty standard distro. Is Dia
being developed on something that maybe has some extra font aliases
defined?
ere are never any replies with answers.
Any ideas? Any hints?
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fact that all diagrams
always use Courier font despite the fact that the printout changes.
I assume you're saying these two issues disappear once CVS version becomes
Dia 0.95 or whatever the next version shall be?
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Extra DB constructs like sequences or special stored procs
& triggers
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s & views, Associations for foreign-key relationships
(use the aggregate checkbox to indicate the many side of a one-to-many
relationship).
If, at the end, you want the ERD to generate SQL DDL for your RDBMS,
check http://tedia2sql.tigris.org before you begin.
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ail come up,
I only press F3.
I believe (and don't quote me on this, since I use virtual desktops) that
Sawfish (the GNOME window manager) has an option to cause all related
windows to minimise when you minimise an application, as well.
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> But the point of the concept of an application being somehow linked to
> the document remains. How can I store the GUI settings as a config that
> is somehow linked to the docuement?
Could the document not have another tag, ie: ?
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ow Manager's "Minimising and
Maximising" behaviour, chose "When minimising window, also minimise:
GROUP". Then I minimised Dia and all Dia windows minimised at the same
time.
So at least Sawfish implements this behaviour.
(Sawfish is the default GNOME WM, btw)
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ay be useful? I'll let the list decide.
How about an export via filter?
For example, I might like to export to the following:
"grep attribute | sed -e 's/ABC/DEF/' > munged.txt"
How's that?
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ple, there is a script out there somewhere that generates
C++ code based on UML diagrams, and I bet the folks that do that would be
interested in this feature as well.
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; needed to use in order to transform the file from it's native
> .dia to (to use the example above) .sql. Each of these files
> would then appear as another export filter in Dia's export
> types list.
This sounds like a better solution than what I
links for multidesk in particular:
http://www.winsite.com/bin/Search?q=multidesk&x=0
But as always, your best bet is to uninstall Win32 and install one of the
many fine Linux distros out there ;)
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I commonly get "connection refused" errors from the Dia homepage.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
Is this a known problem? I seem to regularly get this problem from
home/work and only with the Dia homepage.
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ss is a bit larger.
Attached is a gzip'ped unidiff based on the last CVS snapshot I could
download a few hours ago (diff -ur olddir newdir).
Oh, included in the diff is a fix for a compiler warning, unused variable.
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iate future plans, stored procedures.
More details at the project page.
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say, I've used it with a large amount of
satisfaction. Putting Gimp on one desktop, Dia on another, Outlook on
another, and Explorer windows on another really make things work well.
It's got keyboard, mouse navigation, and a tree menu for moving windows
between desktop
ite or from my project
site, it always (?) gives me connection refused errors, but if I go from
GNOME.org, it usually (?) gives me the content.
It's really flakey for me, anyway, using Galeon.
As for where it *CAN* be hosted, I guess I don't have any real ideas...
Sourceforge always seems
ed ERD, and
change the syntax to be SQL specific so there doesn't have to be a
vocabulary mapping anymore.
> Did you see the mail by Matthew Mondor about database design objects
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>? You'd be better qualified to
> answer him than I.
I've searched
.
Being a non-coder, my guess is there needs to be a pre-processor that
generates both class.c and dbclass.c which are different in those subtle
ways...?
Or is it quicker/easier just to fork the shapeset and try to keep the
updates consistent across both shapesets?
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B2, Postgres, Sybase target databases (others easily added)
* Script is GPL (libre and free!)
Go look at the tedia2sql screenshots at the tedia2sql homepage, and I
think you'll get the idea.
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, and MySQL will be added whenever someone so
desires it.
homepage at: http://tedia2sql.tigris.org
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ayout...
So it tries to sensibly place classes & sensibly route associations?
I've never seen an autolayout algorithm I liked.
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expect, and not a strange abomination ;).
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at about
four objects can fit on a single A4-size piece of paper, maybe 8 if you
cram them.
Objects seem a bit... LARGE.
I scale all my diagrams down to about 18-30% size, which seems a little
more sane. Is there a rationale for the current default scaling? Am I &
Eddie the only two that think
hen adding functionality to Dia to allow it to recognise the
installed-status of these other tools and have hooks to them(in the case
of tedia2sql, a save/exec combo) and thus use them if installed.
Even as a non-maintainer, I appreciate the difficulty involved with
distributing these add-ons as pa
these kinds of
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ps -- Mandrake 9.0b2 seems to be pretty stable for installation, and
rather buggy for upgrading.
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abase ERDs. But my fellow
coworkers are still stuck in the Win32 world, and I've been able to
placate their fears about Dia so far by dismissing all concerns with a
casual: "Dia has a Win32 port."
ACK?
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et site for anyone else who wants it.
Acrobat Reader is a pretty common install. Interestingly, EPS files and
most every other sort of vector graphic file format, including PS, aren't
viewable on Microsoft systems without special software.
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t PDF is always sideways (ie: portrait orientation).
If Dia were to attempt to incorporate an output-as-PDF function, looking
at the ImageMagick "convert" command might be a good place to start.
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s to make more connection points on
UML classes the standard behaviour and submitted the second patch to make
sure this wouldn't harm legacy users of Dia. Getting more connection
points is a FAQ, so I figure it can't be only me that wants it. The
general consensus seems to be Dia will conti
your argument that ImageMagick is just
using ps2pdf to convert, since it displays the same broken behaviour.
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Andrew S Halper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2002.08.26 08:45 Tim Ellis wrote:
>
> > Also a proposed large feature set which I'm still unsure how to
> > handle,
> > involving using special RDBMS constructs like CASCADE.
&g
ways seem
to take place. I had family affected by the nasty earthquakes in Taiwan a
few years back, and Red Cross helped them out.
And I guess I should be crystal clear: I don't want donations made in my
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o algorithm that would handle it right, and certainly, when we delete
attributes currently, it becomes obvious no-one else can think of one
either.
It's the reason I'm resistant to a "variable number of connpoints"
algorithm. Every time I shorten an attribute name, or delete the &q
o UML)?
The more RAD-tool-oriented the solution, the better...
Oh, and just asking this question terrifies me. Please be gentle.
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index.
But UML & ERD aren't a complete intersection either. Yeh, an ERD shapeset
is sorely needed. It's on my TODO list.
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ling one
> somewhere.
http://faemalia.org/wiki/view/Technical is not going anywhere anytime
soon, and is fully under my control to back up, move to another server, or
whatever.
It's a TWiki wiki. Personally, I've never found a better wiki than TWiki.
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xist,
sorta like email. *bold*, _italic_, and such. Things that should be
second-nature if you have worked in text-only mediums before.
If you want to get crazy and do table of contents, tables, dynamic
colourisation, and complex formatting, then you gotta learn extra stuff
which I wouldn't t
actually uses it currently (like chrono*.c) but which
is uses every feature -- does chrono*.c do?
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do this? Does it come straight from source code? Is there some automated
fashion where I could generate that documentation from the code or does a
developer guru need to take care of that (as you've done)?
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oyed me that Gimp overloaded the ALT key for some tools.
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agrams that are successfully parsed by
tedia2sql into DDL for the supported databases. The BigERD.png screenshot
is the actual ERD I work on as a DBA and, as you can see, is quite large
and complex.
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Author, tedia2sql
ps -- If anyone knows of Oracle, D
edia2sql.tigris.org/sampleImages/BigERD.png
http://tedia2sql.tigris.org/sampleImages/TestERD.png
current (broken) MySQL InnoDB SQL output:
http://tedia2sql.tigris.org/innodb-testerd.sql
mailing list archives:
http://tedia2sql.tigris.org/servlets/SummarizeList?listName=u
http://tedia2sql.tigris.org/sampleImages/TestERD.png
http://tedia2sql.tigris.org/sampleImages/BigERD.png
Homepage (mailing list, CVS, downloads, documentation, etc):
http://tedia2sql.tigris.org
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> > Kick some illinois ass!
>
> I will, this Saturday I will be fighting at Oktoberfest. Me and my
> fellow spearmen will kick a lot of ass.
Spearmen?
List: in case I ever get in too heated a debate w/ Lars, please privately
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(bad vision
for #xxyyzz-->#aabbcc which
might be a little much for most GUI users.
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FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~all
y name?
> If not, how about allowing some
> escape sequence for this?
Are you *SURE* you want to be using the ER shapes? Are you trying to model
a database? If so, you may want to check: http://tedia2sql.tigris.org. If
you are modelling a database, you'll likely be happier w/ the UML
lasses & associations."
In any case, Organic Chemistry 101 cannot prepare one for the
psychological trauma associated with attempting to understand the above
exchange... ;)
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