Hello Dia Developers,
My name is James Michael DuPont, and I am working on
the extraction of information from the gcc via the
parse trees.
I would be interested in using DIA as a display tool
for compiler graphs and UML diagrams.
Also I would like to use a modifed version of VCG tool
to do graph
l.
I have written simple vcg and graphviz exports.
> All in all, this looks like a very fun project, and
> it would certainly help
> giving life to a wonderful tool (have it cooperate
> with doxygen to make
> nicer collab graphs, and you'd make my
re parsing the TU files
from the tree-dumper.
I use a modified version of the tree-dumper that
outputs xml.
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auto-completion
and argcomplete.
> that stuff above is about one year old, and at that
> time I don't believe the
> tree-dumper was existing. But it's nice to see
> things have evolved...
Hmmm... but the tar contained the TU files, where did
they come from if not the tree-dumper
ot find
pygtk module)])
configure.in:404:AC_MSG_ERROR([could not find
files required to build python plugin])
configure.in:44: AC_DEFINE(USE_XIM)
configure.in:72: AC_DEFINE(GNOME)
configure.in:77:AC_DEFINE(GNOME_PRINT)
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on they have
and if possible send me a ./configure file that works.
I would like to be able to build from cvs, most
projects that I have seen all can be built that way.
Thanks,
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--- Cyrille Chepelov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My script autogen's it every morning, 9:30. And I
> build it rather frequently
> from CVS. I'm not alone...
Cyrille, like always, impressive.
Thanks, I will report my status.
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--- Cyrille Chepelov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My script autogen's it every morning, 9:30. And I
> build it rather frequently
> from CVS. I'm not alone...
Cyrille, like always, impressive.
Thanks, I will report my status.
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--- Cyrille Chepelov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My script autogen's it every morning, 9:30. And I
> build it rather frequently
> from CVS. I'm not alone...
Cyrille, like always, impressive.
Thanks, I will report my status.
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jpg
image maps? I am sure that someone has looked into or
has done this already?
Has anyone looked at www.touchgraph.com? The new
google browser is really cool.
Hope to hear from you,
Best regards,
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> the works, though.
Thanks, I noticed that you are in preparation for a
big changes. I Dont know how long I will need to get
started. But with your tips, it will be much easier.
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> small "link" icon on the upper left corner of the
> object when it's
> selected). But this is gold-plating at the moment.
We can not imagine some form of browser
intergration
I will definitly look into this very soon.
Best r
?
Sorry, I have not gotten to look at the Dia source
code as closly as possible yet!
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I will if you can tell me where to start.
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You will find an copy of related snippets and news at :
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tBase,
Informix and InterBase. But Agata was enough tested only with
PostgreSQL, Informix, MsSql, InterBase and MySQL;
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--- Andrew S Halper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2002.07.01 09:25 James Michael DuPont wrote:
> > Anyone working on reverse engineering SQL into DIA?
>
> I was. I got as far as writing a SQL/92 parser and calling it from a
>
> plug-in, but I got stuck on creat
st a node and rel list.
if you have some sql stuff done, then let me take a look,
or maybe I sould review medoosa, the have a DIA export as well.
H I need to find some time to work on this.
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for a UML editor? I
would like to know how and what tools you use to post process the
diagrams and how you create an published document. I would like to know
what your personal choice of tools are.
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symantic web enabled dia browser.
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--- Lars Clausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, James Michael DuPont wrote:
> > The EPS output of a package
> > gives a too big text and it goes outside of the bounding box.
> > on the screen this looks fine.
>
> The EPS font output is very
feeds of software meta data into a repository with
graph-layout and DIA backends..
Anyway that is way in the future... I want to help get DIA stable and
usable, it is taking a long time for me to familiarize myself with all
these parts. First i want to look at medoosa, they seemed to use
graphvis
n allow you to customize
them.
But you need to associate the document with a type and then use that to
guide your data entry.
Anyway, just some random thoughts.
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is somehow linked to the docuement?
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So now I will install python2.0 and see what happens!
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--- James Michael DuPont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anyway,
> > So I have installed python2.2.1 and diawin32, also downloaded
> > the patches. I had to put the dia\bin stuff in my path, and play
> with
> >
> > the python_start.py to get it to load fi
generate the diagrams?
would it be hard to use a different layout tool besides graphvis?
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all via perl if possible...
Anyway, Looking forward to your feedback...
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rry to be such a complainer, but my nice requests have been ignored.
It is time that we make the win32 more publically available, and that
more openness comes into this project.
Best regards,
Mike
References
[1] http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
[2] http://hans.breuer.org/dia/default
. I will be trying again, and complaining
if needed.
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I am just
asking for help getting the source code of the binaries that you
published. That is my right under the gpl.
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Dear Dia list,
this is the mail that I have set to hans.
I don't think that it is out of line,
if you think that there is something wrong with it,
please tell me.
I promise to publically apologize for any wrongdoing.
Best regards,
Mike
--- James Michael DuPont <[EMAIL PROTECTED
This is what I intend on doing.
mike
--- James Michael DuPont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 11:36:18 -0700 (PDT)
> From: James Michael DuPont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Intent on compiling DIA with gnu tools
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
mething wrong about how this win32 port
is being distributed.
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server, we dont care how it is built".
I don't think that is the way that the GPL works,
if you get the source code, you have to make it available to others.
I might be wrong, and I am willing to change my opinion.
Again, I am sorry if I have insulted you and caused problems.
mike
positive contribution,
not just a bitch mail. Alan, thank you for you patience with me.
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all the other builds.
I dont think this is the final solution,
some checks to see if we are running mingw are needed...
Any ideas?
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porting work I
have spent over 20 hours this weekend, and have gotten started, if you
can help me with some of the problems, I will coming along quickly.
Best regards,
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--- Tor Lillqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> James Michael DuPont writes:
> > Hopefully we can get all the cool gnome apps running under windows
>
> Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't it go like this:
>
> GNOME is intended to provide on Unix some of
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consumption,
Then I would like for some other volunteers to help test the
compilation and see if they can reproduce the results.
Anyone interested?
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to improve the gcc build
environment for Windows. Thanks to Ray Kelm for writing the
build-cross.sh
script and Mo Dejong for writing the original build script he started
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> moot, no longer relevant.
Yes, Alan,
I will have to run a spellcheck. My english is bad!
Shoot me!
'Nuff said.
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Ein Schönes Wochenende wünche ich Dir!
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d be a debuggable object. Perl would fit in somehow.
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--- Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:34:58PM -0700, James Michael DuPont wrote:
> >
> >--- Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 04:03:28PM +0200, Christof Petig wrote:
>
--- stefan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, James Michael DuPont wrote:
>
> > Dear fellow hackers,
>
> Hello!
>
> > I am working on putting my packages on sourceforge right now,
> > https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_
through the iconv() function it offers programs the
functionality of convert documents between different character sets."
I think this is very very very confusing for anyone,
no wonder why this is so painful!
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Bruno,
Thank you for pointing out my mistakes, you have shed some light on
this whole issue.
I hope that my asking questions have helped in some way to bring all
these questions to light, even if I was wrong on my conclusions.
--- Bruno Haible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> James Micha
user has WINE installed, he can even execute the tests from
config to get the needed values, this is another part that needs
changing.
If I find some more time this week, I will post a very detailed report
on exactly what changes need to be made to compile under DEBIAn/mingw32
M
biconv_1.7-1.dsc
wget
http://introspector.sourceforge.net/debian/incoming/libiconv_1.7-1.tar.gz
wget
http://introspector.sourceforge.net/debian/incoming/libiconv_1.7-1_i386.changes
2. unpack the sources
dpkg-source -x libiconv_1.7-1.dsc
3. rebuild the package
dpkg-buildpackag
wrote:
> Le Sun, Sep 08, 2002, à 04:02:51AM -0700, James Michael DuPont a
> écrit:
> > Dear Fellow Hackers,
>
> [snip]
>
> please keep this list for discussion of dia stuff only. Iconv, Debian
> packaging for Win32
> and Introspector each belong to their respect
will be sorted out some other time.
I hope to find some time this week to try the packages out with debian
for cygwin. It will be quite interesting to get the packages going for
the windows build as well.
The next will be glib.
Best regards,
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--- Cyrille Chepelov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Le Sun, Sep 08, 2002, à 01:48:12PM -0700, James Michael DuPont a
> écrit:
>
>
> > shared my frustrations. The FSF has stated that the distribution
> > practices of dia are NOT in order [...]
>
> pro
I would consider what your
users think about this entire situation.
I bet that some are very happy that this painfull process is being
invoked.
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> to eat
> my hat and follow that road as well. So be it!)
>
> Remember that Godwin's law has been invoked.
Thats kinda funny :
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/
Anyway, I hope that you will get used to the idea that I a
t thing running, it was working
(barely) after hunting the net for dlls and installing python 2.0.
Good luck!!!
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gjc and linking that nativly might be easier than a new implementation.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/nsuml/
just my 2 (euro) cents.
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I see we disagree, I dont have the time to answer all of your points,
but have tried to make a positive contribution.
--- Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, James Michael DuPont wrote:
>
> > > Compiling argouml with gcj would be a
rose can be done via XMI.
> >
> > Visio is another story, and the result should be free.
>
> Way other story, and way old. Though it should be possible with XSLT
> now,
> for Visio2002 files. The spec is out there.
Yup.
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Thanks for any explanation!
>
> Mainly because Dia started out before there was a GObject, and
> GTKObject
> just wasn't right. We will move to GObject.
Thats funny,
I am working on compiling Gobject at this very moment!
It looks very nice, I hope to help with the moving of dia to
yout
layer. Glue would stiffen rubber bands and springs to become
non-flexible.
Then you could use the randomizer to move non-pinned objects.
My two euro cents,
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ndows under debian. The cygwin32 port of debian has enough done
to be used with my packages, if anyone wants to help test that, I have
some tests as well.
Mike
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dancies.
The build depends of libpango 1.0 in debian is :
debhelper (>> 4.0.0), libfreetype6-dev (>= 2.1.2), xlibs-dev,
libglib2.0-dev (>= 2.0.6), pkg-config, defoma (>= 0.11.1)
Do you know about?
gdk-imlib1-dev
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if you want to help test them and help with the porting, then please
do.
Right now we are just wrapping the freetype and wil be starting on
pango soon.
http://introspector.sourceforge.net/dia_win32.htm
As soon as we get the this going, I will do my best to help you with
the printing.
2.
> I can't find a Win32 Dia
> page
> on freshmeat :(
> Is there a beta testers list I should join?
The mailling list is here :
http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/introspector-mingw32
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> > we are still working on compiling all the modules under mingw32.
> >
> >
> > > I can't find a Win32 Dia
> > > page
> > > on freshmeat :(
> >
> > > Is there a beta testers list I should join?
> >
> > The mailling lis
wandering into parts of Linux I've only
> dabbled in.
> I was trained as a C coder many moons ago on a BSD system and I'm a
> NT/Win2k MCSE. My Unix admin skills are purely from my spare time
> goofing
> off. I recon I can put a few hours a
mented.
The issue here is setting up an entire new system for gentoo.
I will look into that.
> I really have no choice but to practice what i preach and get off my
> ass
> and start compiling Dia myself.
If you have a debian box, it is not very easy.
>
r a
> Gentoo
> user running Debian? Am I going to be testing tar balls or debs? You
> seemed to be leaning to the latter but I'm confuzed.
> Once we have that straight where do I get the files and project docs
> (What
> ever there are of them)?
&g
d, I would gladly help you and the others with the bonobo
support.
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The Only thing that I am confused about is the Conflict between
gobject, bonobo, the python bindings, and the dia internal object
model. We need to agree on an object model and from there all else can
be created.
one right to rule them all....
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> me, since it would then be possible to write XSLT translators when a
> standard is finally agreed on.
Well, XMI is a good example of a very hard to use XML format.
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ot be
influenced by the user in a convenient, flexible and extensible way.
Another problem is that these models are proprietary and some people
would like to have the possibility to write a converter for these
models into a different format used by another tool, XMI, for example.
that no one has gotten around to adding support for it.
Crazy beans supports it.
>
> Ha ha ha
>
> other responses were knew jerk reactions ...
Ummm My knee jerk reaction was spot on.
> XMI would be cool tho'
Take a look at CrazyBeans.
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The point is that if we can get the gjc running, we can have support of
xmi and of petal. The guys in argouml have lots of nice java
components, just waited to be cherrypicked..
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> >
> > WAIT :
> > http://crazybeans.sourceforge.net/
> >
> > [...]
>
> Thanks for your reply.
> Yes, I've been looking at CrazyBeans.
> My question was real
memory.
> While it is a potential path it is
> not an
> actual path.
True, and I dont want to start another argument. You are right.
But My estimate is still correct. It will lead us to be able to import
xmi and petal files, in the long run.
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> > > I plan to give it a try during the Holidays.
> >
> > Ok, so you mean with "it", a C implementation of a petal reader?
> > Or the linking of Crazy beans i
nly written,
it should not be a big problem to extend it if it does not do what you
need.
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equasion, the writer and the reader.
if you need help, I can look into this tonight.
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at least from the sources I saw in the summer, the use the funky
python scripting layer
>
> I'll help but I know nothing about bonobo currently. everyone should
> try
> to attract some bonobo knowledgable people.
well, I dont know m
dia right now.
Currently we have a beta-test for the librdf layer in the gcc.
when that is stabilized, then we will add it into the dia and vcg.
dont give up on dia just yet, please help me create the next version of
dia with the needed features.
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support for these tools.
What do you think about creating a set of dia-diagrams for the
speficiation of these interfaces. then we can review them, and generate
the needed bindings out of the diagrams?
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on with regards to Bonoboing
> Dia: We
> should think about how to make Dia embeddable in any Bonobo-aware
> program,
> not just Gimp.
I agree %100.
> Trying to get Dia diagrams embedded in Gnumeric would
> probably be easier as a starting point, as Gnumeric already has
t;cd objects/UML$ grep -i stereo *.c" esto le demuestra donde
comenzar a mirar.
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dependencia.
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> Hail Cesar!
>
> --- CESAR DANIEL URREA LOPEZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > HOLA LISTA DIA
> > SOLICITO COLBORACION PARA PODE
xto a inglés así como el español.
Eso ayudará a otro para ayudarle.
Usted pregunta por los sterotypes de la tela, pozo "DIA" no apoya el
sterotype en todo el objeto. Y no hay un sterotype de la "WEB".
Usted tiene una ayuda limitada de sterotypes, y si usted desea el
e? IF YOU TYPE IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS,
IT MEANS YOU ARE YELLING AT ME. If you need any help, just tell me.
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--- Steffen Macke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> James Michael DuPont wrote:
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> >impressive
> >can i use that for the basis of the one for mingw32 cross?
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> Sure, as you can see all the sources were already in the CVS.
> The script in dia_extra_src_msvc.zip
--- Lars Clausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm sure there's some out there already, but I'm too lazy to go look.
http://search.cpan.org/author/NEILB/Graph-ReadWrite-1.07/
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ling all the sources first. At least
based on the releases that you sent.
my current problems are with gtk+ for the cross compilation, the guys
from say to upgrade.
gotta go
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27;t be feasible. I haven't heard much call for it yet,
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> "build it and they will come", perhaps.
I am very interested in a perl plugin.
what has been stopping me is the time get get into the object model.
there is the gobject model, the bonobo one, the dia one.
wha
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