Re: dia file exchange

2001-06-08 Thread Hubert Figuiere
According to James K. Lowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm skeptical, though, of the strategy: Why should Dia want to export to Visio, > only to see free data trapped in a closed format? Wouldn't it be more worthwhile > to go the other way, to use Ole to free the data from Visio and write a Dia fil

Kivio support ?

2001-06-08 Thread Hubert Figuiere
I was wondering if someone actually planned to write a Kivio[*] import/export plug-in. That would be great that Dia be open to data exchange with other open source Diagramming software. Hub [*] for the ignorant, Kivio is KOffice's Visio clone. ___

Dia ChangeLog report for Fri Jun 8 07:23:02 2001 (UTC)

2001-06-08 Thread Dia ChangeLog Daemon
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Re: dia file exchange

2001-06-08 Thread Cyril ZEKSER
- Message d'origine - De : "Hubert Figuiere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> À : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envoyé : vendredi 8 juin 2001 09:09 Objet : Re: dia file exchange > Q: how would a user do to move a Dia file to Visio. 2 solutions: > -generate a Visio file from the dia file > -write a Dia importe

Re: dia file exchange

2001-06-08 Thread Hubert Figuiere
According to Cyril ZEKSER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Q: how would a user do to move a Dia file to Visio. 2 solutions: > > -generate a Visio file from the dia file > > -write a Dia importer within Visio (is it possible ?) > > > > solution #1 require that one of the system have both Visio and Dia, wh

Re: dia file exchange

2001-06-08 Thread Cyril ZEKSER
Yes, Word (or Visio) itself does know anything about Dia, but Dia can pilot Visio to draw it's own shapes and schemas, as far as you have the OLE interface of Visio documented. It's like scripting. Cyril - Message d'origine - De : "Hubert Figuiere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> À : <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: dia file exchange

2001-06-08 Thread Lars Clausen
On Fri, 08 Jun 2001, James K. Lowden wrote: > Lars Clausen wrote: > >> I guess using OLE to convert files is the only viable option. Does >> anyone here know OLE well enough to attempt such? > > Yes. > > The OLE bit wouldn't be that hard, actually, with Perl and decent > documentation of Visi

Re: Kivio support ?

2001-06-08 Thread Lars Clausen
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Hubert Figuiere wrote: > > I was wondering if someone actually planned to write a Kivio[*] > import/export plug-in. That would be great that Dia be open to data > exchange with other open source Diagramming software. Hadn't seen that. There's a couple things in there that w

Re: Kivio support ?

2001-06-08 Thread Hubert Figuiere
According to Lars Clausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I was wondering if someone actually planned to write a Kivio[*] > > import/export plug-in. That would be great that Dia be open to data > > exchange with other open source Diagramming software. > > Hadn't seen that. There's a couple things in t

Re: dia file exchange

2001-06-08 Thread Hubert Figuiere
According to Cyril ZEKSER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Yes, Word (or Visio) itself does know anything about Dia, but Dia can pilot > Visio to draw it's own shapes and schemas, as far as you have the OLE > interface of Visio documented. It's like scripting. That is what I wrote. Hub _

Re: Kivio support ?

2001-06-08 Thread Hubert Figuiere
According to Lars Clausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Hubert Figuiere wrote: > > > > > I was wondering if someone actually planned to write a Kivio[*] > > import/export plug-in. That would be great that Dia be open to data > > exchange with other open source Diagramming software.

Re: Kivio support ?

2001-06-08 Thread Lars Clausen
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Hubert Figuiere wrote: > According to Lars Clausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> The Kivio format is gzipped XML, but with binary junk at the front. The >> stencils (shapes) that are used in the file are stored in it (a neat >> feature, but should be optional for Dia). Other th

po compilation breakage

2001-06-08 Thread Hubert Figuiere
I can't finish building Dia because of these errors in a .po file: file=./echo zh_TW.Big5 | sed 's,.*/,,'.gmo \ && rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH /usr/bin/msgfmt -o $file zh_TW.Big5.po zh_TW.Big5.po:161: illegal control sequence zh_TW.Big5.po:382: illegal control sequence zh_TW.Big5.po:1592:

Re: po compilation breakage

2001-06-08 Thread Lars Clausen
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Hubert Figuiere wrote: > > I can't finish building Dia because of these errors in a .po file: > > file=./echo zh_TW.Big5 | sed 's,.*/,,'.gmo \ > && rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH /usr/bin/msgfmt -o $file > zh_TW.Big5.po > zh_TW.Big5.po:161: illegal control sequence > z

Re: po compilation breakage

2001-06-08 Thread James Henstridge
On 8 Jun 2001, Lars Clausen wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Hubert Figuiere wrote: > > > > > I can't finish building Dia because of these errors in a .po file: > > > > file=./echo zh_TW.Big5 | sed 's,.*/,,'.gmo \ > > && rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH /usr/bin/msgfmt -o $file > > zh_TW.Big5.po

Re: po compilation breakage

2001-06-08 Thread Ben A. Hetland
Hubert Figuiere wrote: > > I can't finish building Dia because of these errors in a .po file: > > file=./echo zh_TW.Big5 | sed 's,.*/,,'.gmo \ > && rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH /usr/bin/msgfmt -o $file zh_TW.Big5.po > zh_TW.Big5.po:161: illegal control sequence > zh_TW.Big5.po:382: illega

Re: po compilation breakage

2001-06-08 Thread Hubert Figuiere
According to Ben A. Hetland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > several occasion there are '\' that are just part of the multibyte charset. > > What is the solution ? > > One solution is to replace the single '\' with an escaped '\\', since > the \ is the standard escape character in C strings. That's wha

Re: dia file exchange

2001-06-08 Thread Lyle
The other group (of which I am a member) use Dia but need to give the diagrams in editable format to superiors who use Visio. This is really what I was after. I agree that open file formats are better, but to gain acceptance, any new software needs to be able to work within the existing stan

Re: dia file exchange

2001-06-08 Thread Lennon Day-Reynolds
You could also just write a standalone (or Visio-hosted) Perl/Python/VB/JScript tool that used the Visio OLE controls and the MSXML parser to do the transformation in either direction. I'm not a big Windows Scripting guy, but I've done enough basic stuff in this style (app-to-app conversion ha

RE: dia file exchange

2001-06-08 Thread Jamin Collins
Lennon Day-Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > You could also just write a standalone (or Visio-hosted) > Perl/Python/VB/JScript tool that used the Visio OLE controls and the > MSXML parser to do the transformation in either direction. > I'm not a big > Windows Scripting guy, but I've

Re: dia file exchange

2001-06-08 Thread Lars Clausen
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Jamin Collins wrote: > Placing the import/export function on the Dia side would eliminate these > hurdles and open another door for the use of Dia. It won't be easy to > reverse engineer the format, but once again it's not impossible. Let me just remind the dollar-hungry rev

Re: Paper size default, pstricks

2001-06-08 Thread Cyrille Chepelov
Le jeu, jun 07, 2001, à 11:47:07 -0400, Kostas Oikonomou a écrit: > > Hello, > > I'm just beginning to use Dia, and I have a couple of questions: > > 1. Is it possible to set paper size as a global default, e.g. in the > ~/.dia/diarc file? check out /etc/papersize -- Cyrille -- Grum

Re: dia file exchange

2001-06-08 Thread Rick Jafrate
Viso can export to DXF, VML, and others. I know that VML is a microsoftism but it's an XML extension and is therefore in human readable form. I haven't worked with VML but have read what it is supposed to be. Would it make more sense to focus on being compatible with a file format other than

Re: dia file exchange

2001-06-08 Thread Lars Clausen
On Fri, 08 Jun 2001, Rick Jafrate wrote: > Viso can export to DXF, VML, and others. I know that VML is a > microsoftism but it's an XML extension > and is therefore in human readable form. I haven't worked with VML but > have read what it is > supposed to be. Would it make more sense to focus

Re: dia file exchange

2001-06-08 Thread James K. Lowden
Hi Lyle, Lyle wrote: > The other group (of which I am a member) use Dia but need to give the > diagrams in editable format to superiors who use Visio. This is really what > I was after. I agree that open file formats are better, but to gain > acceptance, any new software needs to be able to wo

Re: dia file exchange

2001-06-08 Thread James K. Lowden
Lennon Day-Reynolds wrote: > You could also just write a standalone (or Visio-hosted) > Perl/Python/VB/JScript tool that used the Visio OLE controls and the > MSXML parser to do the transformation in either direction. I'm not a big > Windows Scripting guy, but I've done enough basic stuff in this