Diashapes 0.2.2 released OR Modify shape (SADT/IDEF)

2010-12-22 Thread Mario Nivoli
Hello, I have tried the new SADT shapes with background color on the virtual development release. Is it possible to get the new/updated version of the shapes over diashapes? Thanks a lot and best wishes of Merry Christmas to everybody. Mario -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: htt

Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-12-04 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:07:33 +0200 Steffen Macke napísal: > Hi, > > Diashapes 0.2.2 fixes a caching problem and adds update checks for > Diashapes and Dia along with the possibility to search online for Dia > shapes. I'm also providing a DEB package for Ubuntu users now. i have created

Re: Advantage of Linux distributions (was: Diashapes 0.2.2 released)

2010-08-29 Thread Thomas Harding
Le 29/08/2010 19:21, Ron Wilson a écrit : I have always assumed that the distro maintainers were too busy with packaging the distro to deal with anything other than actual package problems. Unless I am sure it is a packaging issue, I do not file a bug report with the distro. For application issue

Re: Advantage of Linux distributions (was: Diashapes 0.2.2 released)

2010-08-29 Thread Ron Wilson
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 8:00 AM, wrote: > Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 18:32:02 +0200 > From: "W. Martin Borgert" > > For me the whole point of using Debian (same goes for Ubuntu > etc.) is this: I can install anything I want using the package > management system and I do not have to rely on any addit

Re: Additional shapes ways of use and distribution [+digest try] [was: Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released]

2010-08-28 Thread Thomas Harding
Le 28/08/2010 18:39, W. Martin Borgert a écrit : On 2010-08-28 17:35, Thomas Harding wrote: * sid is not the better way to distribute "temporary packages": for that kind there is a special debian repository I currently don't remain the name (I used it in the past only for clamav virus database,

Re: Additional shapes ways of use and distribution [+digest try] [was: Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released]

2010-08-28 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2010-08-28 17:35, Thomas Harding wrote: > * sid is not the better way to distribute "temporary packages": for that > kind there is a special debian repository I currently don't remain > the name (I used it in the past only for clamav virus database, > which is now an integrated cron job in debia

Advantage of Linux distributions (was: Diashapes 0.2.2 released)

2010-08-28 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2010-08-28 07:43, Steffen Macke wrote: > * It's the difference between the number Debian users that would be able > to copy the contents of a zip file to the right location and the ones > running Debian sid For me the whole point of using Debian (same goes for Ubuntu etc.) is this: I can instal

Additional shapes ways of use and distribution [+digest try] [was: Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released]

2010-08-28 Thread Thomas Harding
[thread renamed as it's not anymore the initial subject concern] Le 28/08/2010 07:43, Steffen Macke a écrit : Let's try to assess how many more users this will enable to install additional shapes: * It's the difference between the number Debian users that would be able to copy the contents of

Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-08-27 Thread Steffen Macke
Hi, On 08/27/2010 09:54 PM, Roland Stigge wrote: > I just put it into the next revision of dia in Debian, upload it and a > few hours later everyone running Debian sid will have it available. ;-) > > Let's try to assess how many more users this will enable to install additional shapes: * It's

Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-08-27 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2010-08-27 21:54, Roland Stigge wrote: > I just put it into the next revision of dia in Debian, upload it and a > few hours later everyone running Debian sid will have it available. ;-) I think it makes more sense to put the shapes that are not part of upstream dia in a separate package, e.g. d

Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-08-27 Thread Thomas Harding
Le 27/08/2010 15:33, Roland Stigge a écrit : Hi Steffen, thanks for your thoughts! On 08/26/2010 08:00 PM, Steffen Macke wrote: So : 1) a dia-shapes-extra would be great, and a general /var/lib/dia/{shapes,sheets} (possibly rsynced or foreign host mounted) path would be greater to share shapes

Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-08-27 Thread Roland Stigge
Hi Steffen, On 27/08/10 21:04, Steffen Macke wrote: >> needing to synchronize with external shape repositories when getting dia >> files from "friends". > I'm not suggesting that you get it from "friends". With dia files I meant "*.dia" files. :-) > I just try to look at who is able to create >

Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-08-27 Thread Steffen Macke
Hi Roland, On 08/27/2010 03:33 PM, Roland Stigge wrote: > needing to synchronize with external shape repositories when getting dia > files from "friends". > > I'm not suggesting that you get it from "friends". I hope to provide a service that makes it extremely easy for everyone to get those sh

Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-08-27 Thread Roland Stigge
Hi Steffen, thanks for your thoughts! On 08/26/2010 08:00 PM, Steffen Macke wrote: >> So : >> 1) a dia-shapes-extra would be great, and a general >> /var/lib/dia/{shapes,sheets} (possibly rsynced or foreign host >> mounted) path would be greater to share shapes and sheets between users. > I've st

Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-08-26 Thread Steffen Macke
Hi Steve, On 08/26/2010 11:50 PM, Pauker, Stephen wrote: > i was unaware of it but > so far I have just used the distrubuted windows version > I have not ventured into compiling Dia for windows. > There's no need to compile anything. You just need Python 2.3. There are step-by-step instructions

RE: Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-08-26 Thread Pauker, Stephen
Message- From: dia-list-boun...@gnome.org [mailto:dia-list-boun...@gnome.org] On Behalf Of Steffen Macke Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 3:49 PM To: discussions about usage and development of dia Subject: Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released Hi, On 08/26/2010 09:35 PM, Pauker, Stephen wrote: > but t

Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-08-26 Thread Steffen Macke
Hi, On 08/26/2010 09:35 PM, Pauker, Stephen wrote: > but they focus on Visio (ugh) > Look at the price difference. It must be better. > the single biggest deficit is the inability to rotate shapes. > Did you have a look at the "Simple Rotate" plugin? http://dia-installer.de/doc/rotation.ht

RE: Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-08-26 Thread Pauker, Stephen
d development of dia Subject: Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released Hi Steve, On 08/26/2010 08:35 PM, Pauker, Stephen wrote: > Steffen-- > when will be next release if Dia itself? > Ok, here an even bigger THANKS is due: Hans is the maintainer and the guy doing > 90% of the current Dia development

Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-08-26 Thread Steffen Macke
Hi Steve, On 08/26/2010 08:35 PM, Pauker, Stephen wrote: > Steffen-- > when will be next release if Dia itself? > Ok, here an even bigger THANKS is due: Hans is the maintainer and the guy doing > 90% of the current Dia development (This is not an accurate figure, the actual rate might be even h

Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-08-26 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting "Steffen Macke" : However, there are some more things to consider: ... Steffen, I understand your reservations. But because at least some Debian users would probably like a packaged version of the additional sheets, I suggest that it is in an extra package, e.g. "dia-shapes-extra". Thi

Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-08-26 Thread Steffen Macke
Arv, the big THANKS should go to those who have provided shapes for the Dia Shape Repository. The whole thing wouldn't make any thanks without them! And of course, it should be an invitation to all those who are thinking about contributing their shapes. They don't have to be perfect, it'll be fun

RE: Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-08-26 Thread Pauker, Stephen
Steffen-- when will be next release if Dia itself? Steve == Stephen Pauker, MD, MACP, FACC, ABMH Professor of Medicine and Psychiatry ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org http://mail

Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-08-26 Thread Arv Evans
Steffen Good analytical analysis of ways to distribute new shapes for dia. What some do not realize is that there are different needs and priorities for adding functionality to MS-based OS versus the more UNIX-like OS systems. There are also different expectations for user involvement in install

Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-08-26 Thread Steffen Macke
Thomas, Roland, Martin, thanks for your feedback. I understand your points and I'm not opposed to distributing shapes in packages. However, there are some more things to consider: * Diashapes and the Dia Shape Repository should make the shape creators more prominent - they are an important part

Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-08-26 Thread Thomas Harding
Le 26/08/2010 10:24, Roland Stigge a écrit : Hi, On 08/25/2010 10:07 PM, Steffen Macke wrote: http://dia-installer.de/diashapes/index.html Nice tool - didn't know about that! [...] Or maybe I should do both (shipping the shapes in the distro and providing a shape download option). [...] A

Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-08-26 Thread Roland Stigge
Hi, On 08/26/2010 10:48 AM, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > +3 for packaging instead of download option: In this case, maybe we should integrate the additional shapes "upstream" directly? This would have the advantage that everyone already has the respective shapes available that other people were usi

Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-08-26 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2010-08-26 10:24, Roland Stigge wrote: > Or maybe I should do both (shipping the shapes in the distro and > providing a shape download option). > > Any opinions? +3 for packaging instead of download option: As an admin (among other hats) I always prefer packaged thingies over download options.

Re: Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-08-26 Thread Roland Stigge
Hi, On 08/25/2010 10:07 PM, Steffen Macke wrote: > http://dia-installer.de/diashapes/index.html Nice tool - didn't know about that! While thinking about integrating it into Debian (as a separate package), I also have the option to just ship the already provided shapes with the distribution. This

Diashapes 0.2.2 released

2010-08-25 Thread Steffen Macke
Hi, Diashapes 0.2.2 fixes a caching problem and adds update checks for Diashapes and Dia along with the possibility to search online for Dia shapes. I'm also providing a DEB package for Ubuntu users now. Diashapes is a small open source tool that allows to download and install additional shapes f