Re: [Dhis2-devs] patient_dataelement Vs routine_dataelement

2009-06-09 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Saptarshi, 2009/6/9 Saptarshi Purkayastha : >> >> I'm not sure what happened to the BPEL eclipse project >> (http://www.eclipse.org/bpel/) which would give us all this in a >> standard way.  I know the Alfresco DMS uses BPEL as a workflow engine. >>  I'll take a look and see.  Might be too heavy a

Re: [Dhis2-devs] patient_dataelement Vs routine_dataelement

2009-06-05 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Hi Saptarshi Thanks for this. (I had to load the uml extension into netbeans but it seems like a useful tools - much like argo in fact). A few comments and queries: First off its excellent to have a design diagram to work with. It looks like you have used ideas from the openMRS model which is

Re: [Dhis2-devs] patient_dataelement Vs routine_dataelement

2009-06-04 Thread Jason Pickering
Hi there. I spoke with Knut briefly today regarding this long thread and thought I would air some of my views about this. I think we are getting there, and the diagrams will certainly help. I think the description provided by Ola approaches a nice blueprint. We had done some work on the development

Re: [Dhis2-devs] patient_dataelement Vs routine_dataelement

2009-06-04 Thread Bob Jolliffe
2009/6/4 Bob Jolliffe : > Hi > > 2009/6/4 Saptarshi Purkayastha : >> I was silently following the discussion, because I am having a hard time >> trying to understand what is being discussed. I was hoping to understand the >> ideas as things were discussed more. Some clever guys invented diagrams (U

Re: [Dhis2-devs] patient_dataelement Vs routine_dataelement

2009-06-04 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Hi 2009/6/4 Saptarshi Purkayastha : > I was silently following the discussion, because I am having a hard time > trying to understand what is being discussed. I was hoping to understand the > ideas as things were discussed more. Some clever guys invented diagrams (UML > and the like) for modelling

Re: [Dhis2-devs] patient_dataelement Vs routine_dataelement

2009-06-04 Thread Jason Pickering
I too have been silently following the discussion, understanding little about what has been discussed, and having a number of trepidations about what was discussed. I was unfortunately not able to join the Skype conference last week, as I was out in the field and had not internet access. I wish I c

Re: [Dhis2-devs] patient_dataelement Vs routine_dataelement

2009-06-03 Thread Abyot Gizaw
No - I mean the point you mentioned that Encounter got introduced because I wanted to have it for the activity plan generation. No that is not the reason. And I didn't really understnad the data Vs metadata and also dhis design Vs activity/paln mixup I made. Anyways, I could be wrong in my pro

Re: [Dhis2-devs] patient_dataelement Vs routine_dataelement

2009-06-03 Thread Ola Hodne Titlestad
Hi, Sorry, maybe I'm a bit slow, but I don't manage to follow this reasoning. First of all I get a bit confused as to what is metadata and data in your model Abyot. Now it seems you have split up data values for patient data into two objects, Encounter and PatientDataValue, is that right? I can s

Re: [Dhis2-devs] patient_dataelement Vs routine_dataelement

2009-06-03 Thread Abyot Gizaw
2009/6/3 Abyot Gizaw > A bit tricky! > > I think we need to maintain both Encounter and DataSet. I mean, a DataSet > evolving to an Encounter whenever a visit is made by either a patient or a > health-worker. This will help us to implement a dynamic DataSet > functionality. And here the DataSet

Re: [Dhis2-devs] patient_dataelement Vs routine_dataelement

2009-06-03 Thread Abyot Gizaw
A bit tricky! I think we need to maintain both Encounter and DataSet. I mean, a DataSet evolving to an Encounter whenever a visit is made by either a patient or a health-worker. This will help us to implement a dynamic DataSet functionality. And here the DataSet will be acting only as a template

Re: [Dhis2-devs] patient_dataelement Vs routine_dataelement

2009-06-03 Thread Bob Jolliffe
2009/6/3 Ola Hodne Titlestad : > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Bob Jolliffe wrote: >> >> 2009/6/3 Ola Hodne Titlestad : >> > Hi Abyot, >> > >> > If you read my summary e-mails just before the skype conference you will >> > see >> > that my suggestion was NOT to have a different type of data ele

Re: [Dhis2-devs] patient_dataelement Vs routine_dataelement

2009-06-03 Thread Ola Hodne Titlestad
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Abyot Gizaw wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Ola Hodne Titlestad wrote: > >> Hi Abyot, >> >> If you read my summary e-mails just before the skype conference you will >> see that my suggestion was NOT to have a different type of data element, and >> I unde

Re: [Dhis2-devs] patient_dataelement Vs routine_dataelement

2009-06-03 Thread Ola Hodne Titlestad
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Bob Jolliffe wrote: > 2009/6/3 Ola Hodne Titlestad : > > Hi Abyot, > > > > If you read my summary e-mails just before the skype conference you will > see > > that my suggestion was NOT to have a different type of data element, and > I > > understood from the skype

Re: [Dhis2-devs] patient_dataelement Vs routine_dataelement

2009-06-03 Thread Abyot Gizaw
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Ola Hodne Titlestad wrote: > Hi Abyot, > > If you read my summary e-mails just before the skype conference you will > see that my suggestion was NOT to have a different type of data element, and > I understood from the skype chat that we agreed on the same. Yes

Re: [Dhis2-devs] patient_dataelement Vs routine_dataelement

2009-06-03 Thread Bob Jolliffe
2009/6/3 Ola Hodne Titlestad : > Hi Abyot, > > If you read my summary e-mails just before the skype conference you will see > that my suggestion was NOT to have a different type of data element, and I > understood from the skype chat that we agreed on the same. What we talked > about was to possibl

Re: [Dhis2-devs] patient_dataelement Vs routine_dataelement

2009-06-03 Thread Ola Hodne Titlestad
Hi Abyot, If you read my summary e-mails just before the skype conference you will see that my suggestion was NOT to have a different type of data element, and I understood from the skype chat that we agreed on the same. What we talked about was to possibly make a separation in the user interface

[Dhis2-devs] patient_dataelement Vs routine_dataelement

2009-06-03 Thread Abyot Gizaw
Hi All, Couldn't really convince myself as to the need to keep a separate track of dataelements called patientdataelement. I just did an implementation for patientdataelement ... but when giving it a thought about linking it with some custom and predefiend values, then I see that one already in pl