Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Dhis2-users] dhis to submit anonymous data

2013-06-28 Thread Jason Pickering
Hi Lars, What I mean by the IP being collected, is it "might" be collected (unless you are careful) by your reverse proxy or upstream providers. Even though whatever protocol you might come up with might not collect it, it would require you to purposefully NOT collect it though unintentional means,

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Dhis2-users] dhis to submit anonymous data

2013-06-28 Thread Bob Jolliffe
Agree with Dan that a submit button on the about page (which previewed the information that would be sent) is better than ET calling home. Though we need to remain clear about the usage distinction of sharing with developers and feeding a more public repo. Need to think a bit more. On 28 June 2

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Dhis2-users] dhis to submit anonymous data

2013-06-28 Thread Dan Cocos
Perhaps it could be modeled after the Drupal Update Stats module. This module generates simple stats that can be seen here. https://drupal.org/project/usage/drupal you can read more about it here. https://drupal.org/node/329620 I'd also support a slightly more detailed optional submission as w

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Dhis2-users] dhis to submit anonymous data

2013-06-28 Thread Lars Helge Øverland
Okay thanks for feedback. To clarify, for the "calling home" part we will only collect the DHIS 2 version (no IP, no Java version etc). In other words we will only register that there exists a DHIS version out there with a given version. It will not be possible to track it back to the IP. Then, w

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Dhis2-users] dhis to submit anonymous data

2013-06-28 Thread Bob Jolliffe
I agree with Jason on all counts so won't repeat them. A mandatory "ET call home" feature would not and should not be generally acceptable. Besides which its not too clear how, or more pertinently, when, this exchange will happen. On first boot? Every boot. Periodically? Anyway I don't like i

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Dhis2-users] dhis to submit anonymous data

2013-06-28 Thread Jason Pickering
Hi Lars, I think it is important to get it right from the beginning. following the lead of other big open source projects. It is critical to remember that many of the organisations using DHIS2 are governments, and there could be some possible sensitivies about the DHIS core team collecting any sor

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Dhis2-users] dhis to submit anonymous data

2013-06-28 Thread Lars Helge Øverland
Hi, thanks for the good questions and comments. This information will be stored in some central system. The system will be managed by the DHIS core team. That system will be made open source so that anyone who feels like it could investigate it. > Who would have access to the "sensitive" data l

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Dhis2-users] dhis to submit anonymous data

2013-06-28 Thread Jim Grace
Hi Lars and Jason, Good idea, and good questions about security. One way to approach IP address security is to not record them anywhere (and make sure the central server to which the data is sent does not keep any log of them.) If the central server doesn't know the IP addresses, they can't be

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Dhis2-users] dhis to submit anonymous data

2013-06-27 Thread Jason Pickering
Hi Lars, Sounds interesting. Wish I would have been there for the discussion. Sounds like it might be possible, assuming the process and data is transparent, and allow for an option to "opt-out" of collection of such data. Having said that, I think we should be exceedingly careful. I assume that

Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Dhis2-users] dhis to submit anonymous data

2013-06-27 Thread Jim Grace
Sounds interesting. Was there an idea of what the data would be used for? On Jun 27, 2013, at 10:59 PM, Lars Helge Øverland wrote: > Hi there, > > during the Uganda workshop last month we had an interesting suggestion from > one of the participants. > > The idea is to let DHIS submit anonymou