Re: ntpq flakiness

2019-04-10 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
Hal Murray : > > > It's one of the few times I've gone on an expedition like that and > > completely > > failed. Whatever it is, it's not going to be obvius. > > Here is an interesting possibility. How about the code is working as > designed > but the parameters are set wrong. Maybe not "w

Re: ntpq flakiness

2019-04-10 Thread Hal Murray via devel
> It's one of the few times I've gone on an expedition like that and completely > failed. Whatever it is, it's not going to be obvius. Here is an interesting possibility. How about the code is working as designed but the parameters are set wrong. Maybe not "wrong". How about "not agressiv

Re: ntpq flakiness

2019-04-10 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
Hal Murray : > Thanks. > > There is another quirk that seems related to retransmissions. I forget the > details. I'm pretty sure there is bug report on it. > > > > I do remember that there was a very old issue with flaky behavior of ntpq > > over WiFi that we thought might be due to a bug in

Re: ntpq flakiness

2019-04-10 Thread Hal Murray via devel
Thanks. There is another quirk that seems related to retransmissions. I forget the details. I'm pretty sure there is bug report on it. > I do remember that there was a very old issue with flaky behavior of ntpq > over WiFi that we thought might be due to a bug in the fragment reassembly If I

Re: ntpq flakiness

2019-04-10 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
Hal Murray via devel : > I only started seeing it recently. It's probably because my DSL line has > gone > flaky. I don't remember any recent changes to ntpq, but it seems worthwhile > to inquire. I haven't touched that code in many months. I do remember that there was a very old issue with

ntpq flakiness

2019-04-10 Thread Hal Murray via devel
I'm seeing things like this when doing ntpq -p to a far away site with lots of opportunities for lost packets. ***No information returned for association 21216 Has anybody seen anything similar? I only started seeing it recently. It's probably because my DSL line has gone flaky. I don't r