Re: Out of date chunks in documentation

2018-12-24 Thread Hal Murray via devel
> Is there a way that we can fix refclock testing into CI? If you can describe > how we'd run that test (don't worry about the platform details), I can work > on a way to integrate it into our pipelines. Same question for running > testing running without refclocks. The short answer is no, yo

Re: Out of date chunks in documentation

2018-12-24 Thread Matthew Selsky via devel
On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 11:14:47AM -0800, Hal Murray wrote: > > > That still makes this table a maintainence headache. Can we instead say > > that > > we built on modern/supported-by-upstream releases of popular operating > > systems and distributions. And we build test on the platforms support

Re: Out of date chunks in documentation

2018-12-24 Thread Sanjeev Gupta via devel
On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 3:32 AM Hal Murray via devel wrote: > The usual solution to the maintain 2 places problem is to write a program > to > translate one format into the other. Then we have to maintain that > program. :) > Which program? The C or the Python? Double :-) -- Sanjeev Gupta +6

Re: Out of date chunks in documentation

2018-12-24 Thread Hal Murray via devel
>> Otherwise, we're maintaining data in 2 places and it's going >> to get out of sync. > Agreed. That's to be avoided. I would say avoided when appropriate but managed when necessary. The usual solution to the maintain 2 places problem is to write a program to translate one format into the

Re: Out of date chunks in documentation

2018-12-24 Thread Hal Murray via devel
> One way we can dodge around this is by changing those assertions to "version > X and later". Forward-compatibility breaks affecting the stuff we use are so > rare that I think this is safe - and on thoe exceotional occasions they cause > enough ruckus that we are unlikely not to notice. That

Re: Out of date chunks in documentation

2018-12-24 Thread Hal Murray via devel
> That still makes this table a maintainence headache. Can we instead say that > we built on modern/supported-by-upstream releases of popular operating > systems and distributions. And we build test on the platforms supported by > our CI system. See https://gitlab.com/NTPsec/ntpsec/blob/master

Re: Out of date chunks in documentation

2018-12-24 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Hal! On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 23:52:35 -0800 Hal Murray via devel wrote: > We need a mechanism to review/update things occasionally and a list > of things that need occasional review. Did I just hear you volunteer? Have at it! RGDS GARY --

Re: Out of date chunks in documentation

2018-12-24 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
Matthew Selsky via devel : > > What do you think of this policy? > > That still makes this table a maintainence headache. Can we instead say that > we built on modern/supported-by-upstream releases of popular operating > systems and distributions. And we build test on the platforms supported b

Re: Out of date chunks in documentation

2018-12-24 Thread Matthew Selsky via devel
On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 09:48:53AM -0500, Eric S. Raymond via devel wrote: > Hal Murray via devel : > > > > We need a mechanism to review/update things occasionally and a list of > > things > > that need occasional review. > > > > Here is a starter: > > https://www.ntpsec.org/supported-platfo

Re: Out of date chunks in documentation

2018-12-24 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
Hal Murray via devel : > > We need a mechanism to review/update things occasionally and a list of things > that need occasional review. > > Here is a starter: > https://www.ntpsec.org/supported-platforms.html > Under test status, it says: > Fedora 26 and 25 (i686, x86_64) > and lots more. >

Out of date chunks in documentation

2018-12-23 Thread Hal Murray via devel
We need a mechanism to review/update things occasionally and a list of things that need occasional review. Here is a starter: https://www.ntpsec.org/supported-platforms.html Under test status, it says: Fedora 26 and 25 (i686, x86_64) and lots more. We could fix most of that by replacing sp