Re: Our last-minute mess

2019-08-14 Thread Mark Atwood, Project Manager via devel
Well then, there is our proof that Python is not quite universal yet. It's always available, but it's presence cannot be blindly assumed. On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 10:52 PM Hal Murray via devel wrote: > > >> What are the plans for splitting out the python stuff? Do most distros > >> include Python

Re: Our last-minute mess

2017-09-29 Thread Hal Murray via devel
>> What are the plans for splitting out the python stuff? Do most distros >> include Python in their basic package? > Python is effectively universal at this point. My notes for setting up NetBSD and FreeBSD and OpenBSD include installing python. (and setting up some links which may or may no

Re: Our last-minute mess

2017-09-28 Thread Mark Atwood via devel
My inclination is to keep his patch, document the lack of FHS compliance, and roadmap a fix to get_python_lib, possibly by nudging the WAF or python communities to write it. And we again specifically thank Fred for his patch. ..m On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 4:39 AM Eric S. Raymond via devel wrote:

Re: Our last-minute mess

2017-09-27 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
Hal Murray : > > > I'd like to hear from the senior devs (and anyone else with something > > intelligent to say!) on this. > > You need a steering committee to represent the customers on things like this. Good idea. I'll keep that in mind as we get more customers. > I didn't find enough info i

Re: Our last-minute mess

2017-09-26 Thread Hal Murray via devel
> I'd like to hear from the senior devs (and anyone else with something > intelligent to say!) on this. You need a steering committee to represent the customers on things like this. I didn't find enough info in the wiki page to enlighten me. I get the general idea, but I don't know the tag t

Re: Our last-minute mess

2017-09-26 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Eric! On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 22:04:53 -0400 (EDT) "Eric S. Raymond via devel" wrote: > Once his patch was applied, however, it broke FHS conformance in the > install paths. On further investigation, it appears that: I'm not gonna agree, but that does not matter. Until we agree on the desired

Our last-minute mess

2017-09-26 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
Some clarity is emerging about the build problems addressed in Fred Wright's patch from last night. He originally wrote: 1) Adds a workaround for waf's broken code that sets up PYTHONDIR and PYTHONARCHDIR. The code is conceptually broken on all platforms, though it may produce correct