Re: 1.0.1 and ntpsnmpd

2018-02-26 Thread Ian Bruene via devel
On 02/26/2018 06:13 PM, Sanjeev Gupta via devel wrote: Hi, For what it is worth, I am running the ntpsnmpd code on a number of debian and ubuntu machines for some time, including one with an actual GPS.  No issues so far. I just like to see graphs. Hooray! Someone is using the code! 1.

Re: 1.0.1 and ntpsnmpd

2018-02-26 Thread Richard Laager via devel
On 02/26/2018 06:16 PM, Sanjeev Gupta wrote: > Richard, I am using cacti. That's what I was hoping to hear, since I also run Cacti. Are you willing to share your templates? 1) That'd probably be good for the project in general. 2) That would give me a way to test, both short-term and long-term, t

Re: 1.0.1 and ntpsnmpd

2018-02-26 Thread Sanjeev Gupta via devel
(apologies for the top posts) Richard, I am using cacti. Have been planning to add it to observium as well, will try tonight. -- Sanjeev Gupta +65 98551208 http://www.linkedin.com/in/ghane On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 8:14 AM, Richard Laager wrote: > On 02/26/2018 06:13 PM, Sanjeev Gupta wro

Re: 1.0.1 and ntpsnmpd

2018-02-26 Thread Richard Laager via devel
On 02/26/2018 06:13 PM, Sanjeev Gupta wrote: > For what it is worth, I am running the ntpsnmpd code on a number of > debian and ubuntu machines for some time, including one with an actual > GPS.  No issues so far. > > I just like to see graphs. What are you using to graph the NTP SNMP data? --

Re: 1.0.1 and ntpsnmpd

2018-02-26 Thread Sanjeev Gupta via devel
Hi, For what it is worth, I am running the ntpsnmpd code on a number of debian and ubuntu machines for some time, including one with an actual GPS. No issues so far. I just like to see graphs. -- Sanjeev Gupta +65 98551208 http://www.linkedin.com/in/ghane On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 8:09 AM,

Re: 1.0.1 and ntpsnmpd

2018-02-26 Thread Richard Laager via devel
On 02/26/2018 09:50 AM, Mark Atwood via devel wrote: > Does the Debian packaging have it be it's own package? It's unclear to me what exactly you're asking, so I'll give various information which may help: No NTPsec ntpsnmpd has shipped in a released version, so the Debian package doesn't do anyt

Is gitlab flaky?

2018-02-26 Thread Hal Murray via devel
When I push something, I normally get 2 messages telling me it worked. Occasionally, I get 1 telling me it didn't. The last time, it worked when I poked Try-Again. This time, I got: Subject: ntpsec | Pipeline #18075609 has succeeded for master | eef92d62 Subject: ntpsec | Pipeline #18075609

Re: 1.0.1 and ntpsnmpd

2018-02-26 Thread Ian Bruene via devel
ntpsnmpd is now fully part of the build. Manpage installs properly. make-tarball includes it (mostly because it slurps up everything). -- /"In the end; what separates a Man, from a Slave? Money? Power? No. A Man Chooses, a Slave Obeys."/ -- Andrew Ryan /"Utopia cannot precede the Utopian. I

Re: What are people putting in /etc/ntp.d/*.conf?

2018-02-26 Thread Achim Gratz via devel
Hal Murray via devel writes: > e...@thyrsus.com said: >> Gary and Mark asked me for something like such an Apache-like feature >> because it makes life easier for configuration-assistant software and distro >> packages. > > Is that true in our case? It seems like it might be, but our config file

Re: Future projects (post release)

2018-02-26 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
Mark Atwood via devel : > Putting the globals into a controlled struct make them easier to reason > about, both for humans and for source code analysis. And even if the > resulting struct is little more than the "globals dumping ground", it does > force that they all be declared in one single plac

Re: 1.0.1 and ntpsnmpd

2018-02-26 Thread Ian Bruene via devel
On 02/25/2018 07:18 PM, Hal Murray via devel wrote: Is there a HOWTO that tells me how to set things up? I'll get to work on that. There may be two targets for that document. One is SNMP wizards who don't know much about ntpd. The other is NTP wizards who don't know much about SNMP. Unfor

Re: Testing status?

2018-02-26 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
Hal Murray via devel : > Would it help if we made a chart of the status of various features cross > OSes/distros? How many different OSes/distros do we support? Can it fit on > a page? ... > > How many different levels of testing are there? I'm thinking of something > like 0-3, where 0 is u

Re: What are people putting in /etc/ntp.d/*.conf?

2018-02-26 Thread Eric S. Raymond via devel
Hal Murray : > > e...@thyrsus.com said: > > Gary and Mark asked me for something like such an Apache-like feature > > because it makes life easier for configuration-assistant software and distro > > packages. > > Is that true in our case? It seems like it might be, but our config file is > gen

Re: Future projects (post release)

2018-02-26 Thread Mark Atwood via devel
Putting the globals into a controlled struct make them easier to reason about, both for humans and for source code analysis. And even if the resulting struct is little more than the "globals dumping ground", it does force that they all be declared in one single place, in a place where you have to

Re: 1.0.1 and ntpsnmpd

2018-02-26 Thread Ian Bruene via devel
On 02/26/2018 09:50 AM, Mark Atwood via devel wrote: Does waf build it by default? Does the Debian packaging have it be it's own package? It is built as part of the other python utilities. The manpage isn't part of the build yet as I do not know which section it should go in. -- /"In the

Re: prep for 1.0.1

2018-02-26 Thread Mark Atwood via devel
I am inclined towards quarterly release schedule as well, modified with doing a release when we discover an important enough issue, and we will delay a release if we discover an important enough issue. On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 1:41 PM Hal Murray via devel wrote: > > rlaa...@wiktel.com said: > > I

Re: 1.0.1 and ntpsnmpd

2018-02-26 Thread Mark Atwood via devel
Re ntpsnmpd My inclination is to include it, but document it as experimental, but also document in the release announcement as worth trying. Does waf build it by default? Does the Debian packaging have it be it's own package? ..m On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 5:18 PM Hal Murray via devel wrote: >

Re: What are people putting in /etc/ntp.d/*.conf?

2018-02-26 Thread Hal Murray via devel
Thanks. That's the sort of thing I was looking for. Please let us know how it works out, especially if there are any surprises. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. ___ devel mailing list devel@ntpsec.org http://lists.ntpsec.org/mailman/listin

Re: What are people putting in /etc/ntp.d/*.conf?

2018-02-26 Thread Richard Laager via devel
On 02/25/2018 05:24 PM, Hal Murray via devel wrote: > Is anybody actually using it? If not, why? Is it really useful? Do we think > it will make life easier for packagers/distros? I'm using it in the Debian package. Specifically, the ntpsec-ntpviz package ships this: $ cat /etc/ntp.d/ntpviz.con