Re: PPS undersampling

2016-08-30 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Hal! On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 23:24:26 -0700 Hal Murray wrote: > > Hm. I think I get it - and you've just added a pretty powerful > > reason to eventually pull the refclocks into a separate daemon by > > telling me I need to get ntpd itself out of the PPS-watching > > business entirely in order to

Re: Comments about ntpviz

2016-08-30 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Hal! On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 22:56:43 -0700 Hal Murray wrote: > g...@rellim.com said: > > If you want to backup your graphs, just add a loggerd script to > > gzip them to somewhere on a schedule. > > Wrong binding for "backup". > > The context was the way I'm currently looking at graphs. I

Re: PPS undersampling

2016-08-30 Thread Hal Murray
> Hm. I think I get it - and you've just added a pretty powerful reason to > eventually pull the refclocks into a separate daemon by telling me I need to > get ntpd itself out of the PPS-watching business entirely in order to get > rid of that timer. The reason I want to get rid of the every-sec

Re: Comments about ntpviz

2016-08-30 Thread Hal Murray
g...@rellim.com said: > If you want to backup your graphs, just add a loggerd script to gzip them to > somewhere on a schedule. Wrong binding for "backup". The context was the way I'm currently looking at graphs. I feed things like this to gnuplot: reset; load "foo1.gp" pause -1 reset;

Re: Stratum one autonomy and assumptions about GPS

2016-08-30 Thread Hal Murray
strom...@nexgo.de said: > I have not yet managed to blind the GPS antenna completely, though, so I > can't know what happens when it loses all signal. Have you tried putting it under a metal pie tin? Or inside a metal box? (being careful not to mangle the cord) -- These are my opinions. I ha

Re: Stratum one autonomy and assumptions about GPS

2016-08-30 Thread Hal Murray
g...@rellim.com said: >> Most CPU chips include a temperature sensor. > Which I have found does not correlate with any of my NTP data. I have a Raspberry Pi sitting on a window sill. It gets a couple of hours of late afternoon sun. There is a big temperature spike. Drift roughly follows it.

Re: Stratum one autonomy and assumptions about GPS

2016-08-30 Thread Achim Gratz
Gary E. Miller writes: > Most cheaper GPS always output PPS, even when they have no idea > where they are or what time it is. Garmin documents this, as do others. Well, the NavSpark mini does not output a PPS until it aquires a 3D lock, as documented. The configuration program has options to eit

Re: Removing interleaved mode

2016-08-30 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Hal Murray : > > e...@thyrsus.com said: > > I'm not clear how we would tell if anything were broken. Or are you just > > suggesting looking for a timing difference? > > Mostly I was suggesting that we needed to test it to make sure that it seemed > to work rather than worrying about how well it