Re: Use of pool servers reveals unacceptable crash rate in async DNS

2016-06-28 Thread Hal Murray
matthew.sel...@twosigma.com said: > "rlimit memlock 0" using Classic causes ntpd to died after 3 minutes with > this error 2016-06-29T00:13:21.903+00:00 host.example.com ntpd[27206]: > libgcc_s.so.1 must be installed for pthread_cancel to work What version of Classic are you running? I though t

Re: Use of pool servers reveals unacceptable crash rate in async DNS

2016-06-28 Thread Matthew Selsky
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 07:26:39PM -0400, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > Hal Murray : > > I think you have extrapolated from some modern systems to our whole target > > environment. I don't remember any discussion supporting memlock not being > > interesting/important. > > There were actually two thr

Technical strategy and performance

2016-06-28 Thread Eric S. Raymond
In recent discussion of the removal of memlock, Hal Murray said "Consider ntpd running on an old system that is mostly lightly loaded and doesn't have a lot of memory." By doing this, he caused me to realize that I have not been explicit about some of the assumptions behind my technical strategy.

Re: Use of pool servers reveals unacceptable crash rate in async DNS

2016-06-28 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 19:47:14 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Gary E. Miller : > > Yo Eric! > > > > On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 19:26:39 -0400 > > "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > > > > > (You should camp on #ntpsec. Also join our Signal channel - > > > because that's secured, most of the vuln

Re: Use of pool servers reveals unacceptable crash rate in async DNS

2016-06-28 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Gary E. Miller : > Yo Eric! > > On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 19:26:39 -0400 > "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > > > (You should camp on #ntpsec. Also join our Signal channel - because > > that's secured, most of the vuln discussions happen there.) > > Ah, how do we joing the Signal channel? Install Signal on

Re: Use of pool servers reveals unacceptable crash rate in async DNS

2016-06-28 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric! On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 19:26:39 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > (You should camp on #ntpsec. Also join our Signal channel - because > that's secured, most of the vuln discussions happen there.) Ah, how do we joing the Signal channel? RGDS GARY --

Re: Device driver mode bits and other skulduggery.

2016-06-28 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Hal Murray : > There may have been a general idea that flag4 would be used to > enable clockstats from an individual driver instance. I'm getting that impression, yes. By the way, the one change I made immediately after putting that table together was to add a 'subtype' option keyword that is an

Re: Use of pool servers reveals unacceptable crash rate in async DNS

2016-06-28 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Hal Murray : > I think you have extrapolated from some modern systems to our whole target > environment. I don't remember any discussion supporting memlock not being > interesting/important. There were actually two threads about this attached to memlock-related bug reports in Classic. They ini

Re: Device driver mode bits and other skulduggery.

2016-06-28 Thread Hal Murray
e...@thyrsus.com said: > One thing that jumps out at me is that several drivers have a clockstats > verbosity option, always flag4 (which, alas, is used for other things too). There may have been a general idea that flag4 would be used to enable clockstats from an individual driver instance. T

Re: Use of pool servers reveals unacceptable crash rate in async DNS

2016-06-28 Thread Hal Murray
e...@thyrsus.com said: > After discussion with Daniel about the performance and security issues I > deleted the memlock code. As the comment explains: I think changes like that are worthy of a general announcement. > on modern systems, which swap so seldom > that many people don't bother wit

Device driver mode bits and other skulduggery.

2016-06-28 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Hal Murray : > bps may not be enough. There is also the parity and stop bits, but I don't > think they are fiddled much. > > The HP driver uses one mode bit to switch from whatever the default is to a > different baud rate and parity. It may be simpler to use a device-type > keyword rather th

ntpq mrulist: cpu hog

2016-06-28 Thread Hal Murray
I have a pool server. mru maxmem is set big enough to capture a whole day. Each midnight, a cron job fires off to capture everything to a file. The file is 100 megabytes. While that is going on, ntpq is using 95% of the cpu. If anybody is looking for a nice distraction, it would be interesti