Re: [SailfishDevel] Acceptable Behaviour Guidelines - you decide

2014-05-26 Thread Stefano Mosconi
It seems that the original topic was a bit forgotten in favor of the forum vs. ML vs. TJC (which is a good and intersting topic but no matter what tool we use we will have to go back to the main question). Just to try to steer the boat back on the original journey this the question that David

Re: [SailfishDevel] was "Acceptable Behaviour.." --> Forum

2014-05-26 Thread Christopher Lamb
Hi all I am pleasantly surprised at the volume of traffic resulting from a thread that I innocently kicked of that the weekend. Thanks for the active and balanced discussion. I probably won't be able to take an active part in the IRC meeting this afternoon, as it is during the Swiss working

Re: [SailfishDevel] Follow up on "Warnings shown as errors"

2014-05-26 Thread Iosif Hamlatzis
I've managed to isolate the problem. If I use the qmake.cmd which is the default (proposed) command file for build/clean then warnings and errors have the same icon and cannot double click on the icon so that the IDE can take me directly to problematic line. This happens in all cases and all templ

[SailfishDevel] Changing video recorder resolution, bitrate and encoder

2014-05-26 Thread Andrey Kozhevnikov
Hello! I want to record VGA quality video with low bitrate, but i'm stuck at using gst presets, just don't know how to change it. I cloned almost everything from jolla-camera application: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/blob/master/client/qml/Capture.qml https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitak

[SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 27-May @ 15:00 UTC

2014-05-26 Thread Carol Chen
Hi! Thanks to everyone who've responded on http://piratepad.net/SailfishOSSMeetings Here's the invitation/reminder for tomorrow's meeting: Date: 27 May 2014 Time: 15:00 UTC, for your local time: http://bit.ly/1pbJprh (note different time from past couple of meetings) Duration 90 minutes Cha

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2014-05-26 Thread fasza2mobile
Hi all, I think Norman is bang on with the fragmentation issue. To address this I propose a possible solution. Why not convert this mailing list to a 'virtual' one; By that I mean move all discussion to a devel section on TJC and have the mailing list be another frontend or interface if you l

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2014-05-26 Thread sfietkonstantin
Thanks for the lengthy discussion. Don't forget that the topic will also be discussed tomorrow during the weekly sailfish OS meeting (http://piratepad.net/SailfishOSSMeetings) Please come and discuss on actions to be taken :) Cheers, Lucien - Mail original - De: "Thomas Tanghus" À: "S

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2014-05-26 Thread sailfish-devel
Hi everybody, So, current situation is: ML: official, could use, in dare times ;-), some moderation TJC: official, nedd some improvements, but nobody can deny the success of Q&A sites (see Stackoverflow) as a dev

Re: [SailfishDevel] was "Acceptable Behaviour.." --> Forum

2014-05-26 Thread Thomas Tanghus
On Monday 26 May 2014 10:18 Luca Donaggio wrote: > +1 for keeping this ML and (eventually) improving TJC. > > Personally, TJC currently suffers of one big drawback, which is not even > technical: it is perceived more as a generic issue-reporting / > feature-requesting tool than anything else. > De

Re: [SailfishDevel] porting QML app to non sailfishos archs

2014-05-26 Thread mikete...@gmail.com
Thanks to all for the inputs! :) On Mon, 26 May 2014 14:17:40 +0200 Martin Windolph wrote: > Hi, > > my way was the opposite. I had an app for Windows and then went for Android. > As Sailfish OS came out, I ported it to Sailfish OS. The porting afford to > Sailfish OS was a lot higher than fo

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2014-05-26 Thread Leif-Jöran Olsson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I agree on these opinions too. So +1. Cheers, Leif-Jöran Den 2014-05-26 10:18, Luca Donaggio skrev: > +1 for keeping this ML and (eventually) improving TJC. > > Personally, TJC currently suffers of one big drawback, which is not even > technical: it

Re: [SailfishDevel] porting QML app to non sailfishos archs

2014-05-26 Thread Martin Windolph
Hi, my way was the opposite. I had an app for Windows and then went for Android. As Sailfish OS came out, I ported it to Sailfish OS. The porting afford to Sailfish OS was a lot higher than for Android. So you are fine when using basic QtQuick 2.0 there without any Silica (I use separate pro fi

Re: [SailfishDevel] porting QML app to non sailfishos archs

2014-05-26 Thread Andrey Kozhevnikov
yes qt5 for android is stable, no idea about ios, sorry. and QtQuick 2.x modules are same for all platforms. 26.05.2014 18:07, mikete...@gmail.com пишет: Hi in short time I'm going to 'port' my pure QML application to android and ios. Currently I import QtQuick 2.0 and QtQuick.LocalStorage 2.0

[SailfishDevel] porting QML app to non sailfishos archs

2014-05-26 Thread mikete...@gmail.com
Hi in short time I'm going to 'port' my pure QML application to android and ios. Currently I import QtQuick 2.0 and QtQuick.LocalStorage 2.0 (and Sailfish.Silica 1.0) I use LocalStorage and XMLHttpRequest, I try to keep it simple, I'm using only Rectangle, Row, Text, TextInput, MouseArea, few an

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2014-05-26 Thread Denis Zalevskiy
On Monday 26 May 2014 11:23:34 Kimmo Lindholm wrote: > Testing TJC with development issues; > > https://together.jolla.com/question/43768/dialogconnect-function-loses-its-p > arent/ > +1 to idea to try it there. the good part is that once app-development etc. appeared one can subscribe to it a

Re: [SailfishDevel] was "Acceptable Behaviour.." --> Forum

2014-05-26 Thread Luca Donaggio
So, current situation is: ML: official, could use, in dare times ;-), some moderation TJC: official, nedd some improvements, but nobody can deny the success of Q&A sites (see Stackoverflow) as a developer helping tool TMO: unofficial, suits all the needs of forum estimators. For official advice

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2014-05-26 Thread Kimmo Lindholm
Testing TJC with development issues; https://together.jolla.com/question/43768/dialogconnect-function-loses-its-parent/ -kimmo -Original Message- From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] On Behalf Of Denis Zalevskiy Sent: 26. toukokuuta 2014

Re: [SailfishDevel] was "Acceptable Behaviour.." --> Forum

2014-05-26 Thread Denis Zalevskiy
On Monday 26 May 2014 11:03:14 sfietkonstan...@free.fr wrote: > I went active on TMO while developing for SFOS. > It's not even a habit but more about easiness to use. > > Forum have a clear hiearchy (better than TJC), and a thread system (like in > ML). It's focused on discussion (unlike TJC), an

Re: [SailfishDevel] Follow up on "Warnings shown as errors"

2014-05-26 Thread Juha Kallioinen
Hi, I can't reproduce this in Windows XP either. I installer Win XP Pro SP3 (32 bit) and the warnings and errors show up just fine and warnings can be filtered away. Also I don't get the word "warning:" in front of the warning messages as you can see in the picture I included in the previous

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2014-05-26 Thread sfietkonstantin
I went active on TMO while developing for SFOS. It's not even a habit but more about easiness to use. Forum have a clear hiearchy (better than TJC), and a thread system (like in ML). It's focused on discussion (unlike TJC), and provides some useful tools (edit, formatting, thanks button; better

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2014-05-26 Thread Denis Zalevskiy
On Monday 26 May 2014 10:18:00 Luca Donaggio wrote: > +1 for keeping this ML and (eventually) improving TJC. > > Personally, TJC currently suffers of one big drawback, which is not even > technical: it is perceived more as a generic issue-reporting / > feature-requesting tool than anything else.

Re: [SailfishDevel] was "Acceptable Behaviour.." --> Forum

2014-05-26 Thread Denis Zalevskiy
On Monday 26 May 2014 10:52:43 Andrea Bernabei wrote: > I agree, sections and subsections are important, random tags can't take > their role imho :/ > > An alternative could be to force people to use only a LIMITED number of > tags decided by Jolla? > > in that way we'd only have tags which basic

Re: [SailfishDevel] was "Acceptable Behaviour.." --> Forum

2014-05-26 Thread Denis Zalevskiy
On Monday 26 May 2014 10:49:51 sfietkonstan...@free.fr wrote: > +1 > TMO is often the forum of choice for many developers (me included), to maybe because you are using TMO for a long time and have a habbit to use it ? Also because many people who develop and developed for mobile linux also has t

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2014-05-26 Thread Andrea Bernabei
I agree, sections and subsections are important, random tags can't take their role imho :/ An alternative could be to force people to use only a LIMITED number of tags decided by Jolla? in that way we'd only have tags which basically act as sections. That means losing tags as we know it, and try

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2014-05-26 Thread kaa
Without sections and subsection it is only ocean of mess. Mess of tags not helped. :( Kaacz Mon May 26 2014 09:50:11 GMT+0200 (CEST), Stefano Mosconi napsal: > On 26/05/14 10:21, Ruediger Gad wrote: > > Hi, > > > > just to add a bit of my opinion as well. > > > > Just a mailing list is imho not e

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2014-05-26 Thread sfietkonstantin
+1 TMO is often the forum of choice for many developers (me included), to communicate with users. TJC could have taken this role, but the flat hiearchy, and the focus on QA, it don't fit that much for a discussion (especially between users and devs). - Mail original - De: "Ruediger Gad"

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2014-05-26 Thread Dag Nygren
On Monday 26 May 2014 10:07:04 Erlend Böe wrote: > Hi Stefano > > first make Wifi actually work, then invest time in building a better Stack > overflow/Forum. > As it is, I stopped using my Jolla as my main phone. This was mainly due to > not being able to connect to wifi at work, and having to

Re: [SailfishDevel] was "Acceptable Behaviour.." --> Forum

2014-05-26 Thread Luca Donaggio
+1 for keeping this ML and (eventually) improving TJC. Personally, TJC currently suffers of one big drawback, which is not even technical: it is perceived more as a generic issue-reporting / feature-requesting tool than anything else. Developer related questions have always been reported on this M

Re: [SailfishDevel] was "Acceptable Behaviour.." --> Forum

2014-05-26 Thread Ruediger Gad
On 05/26/2014 09:50 AM, Stefano Mosconi wrote: > ... > > Should we invest our time into making a better together.jolla.com rather > than a different platform (this is not rhetorical)? Thanks for you answer, both Norbert and you. :) Indeed, the time overhead to manage multiple platforms as well as

Re: [SailfishDevel] was "Acceptable Behaviour.." --> Forum

2014-05-26 Thread Martin Windolph
Hi, personally, I like the structure of pages like stackoverflow and TJC a lot more than usual forums, because of it's flat structure organized by tags. I don't know if the usage of TJC for developer question irritates some users to much or if the mixture can be even good so that a few wishes a

Re: [SailfishDevel] was "Acceptable Behaviour.." --> Forum

2014-05-26 Thread Erlend Böe
Hi Stefano first make Wifi actually work, then invest time in building a better Stack overflow/Forum. As it is, I stopped using my Jolla as my main phone. This was mainly due to not being able to connect to wifi at work, and having to reboot every 5 days. Regards Erlend PS: Taking time to actu

Re: [SailfishDevel] was "Acceptable Behaviour.." --> Forum

2014-05-26 Thread Kimmo Lindholm
To take TJC in use, atleast we need to agree a specific tag to be used; (atm seems that there are few in use: app-development, development, silica, qml, ...) And then subscribe that tag, you got them all in your mail. -kimmo -Original Message- From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [

Re: [SailfishDevel] was "Acceptable Behaviour.." --> Forum

2014-05-26 Thread Andrea Bernabei
You don't need to follow the forum...there are subscriptions, which you can also enable by default on all threads, if you want a ML-like "send me an email with the content of every new post" 2014-05-26 9:53 GMT+02:00 Norbert Wenzel : > On 05/26/2014 09:21 AM, Ruediger Gad wrote: > > Why not let

Re: [SailfishDevel] was "Acceptable Behaviour.." --> Forum

2014-05-26 Thread Norbert Wenzel
On 05/26/2014 09:21 AM, Ruediger Gad wrote: > Why not let the users make the decision? > I.e., we have a mailing list and a Q&A site already, just the forum is > missing. > So, if there were a forum as well, it would show over time how the usage > and the user counts of the different infrastructure

Re: [SailfishDevel] was "Acceptable Behaviour.." --> Forum

2014-05-26 Thread Stefano Mosconi
On 26/05/14 10:21, Ruediger Gad wrote: Hi, just to add a bit of my opinion as well. Just a mailing list is imho not enough. Personally, I like a forum. Even though, due to its nature(?), it might attract more OT discussion. However, such OT discussion can be canalized by proper categorization,

Re: [SailfishDevel] was "Acceptable Behaviour.." --> Forum

2014-05-26 Thread Ruediger Gad
Hi, just to add a bit of my opinion as well. Just a mailing list is imho not enough. Personally, I like a forum. Even though, due to its nature(?), it might attract more OT discussion. However, such OT discussion can be canalized by proper categorization, e.g., OT sections etc. Canalizing discus