Re: [SailfishDevel] community thoughts on app security

2013-12-01 Thread AL13N
> 2) Sandboxes are limiting, but matter. It is way more difficult to freeze > to death or misuse iPhone than Android. That probably goes against > Mer/Sailfish philosophy though. IMHO: Sandboxing is something that helps for security and QA, and if it's done structurely, it might even help develop

Re: [SailfishDevel] Does Sailfish support PyQt5?

2013-12-01 Thread Gabriel Boehme
No it's not really supporting PyQt5, at the moment - in Jolla Store - are only Qt/QML apps with C++ allowed, but it is planned to support PyOtherSide from Thomas Perl. This allows to use a Python backend, with much better performance. As far as I know it's not very hard to understand and use it. L

[SailfishDevel] Does Sailfish support PyQt5?

2013-12-01 Thread Ye Zetao
Hello,I am a developer of python and I know that Sailfish support Qt with C++, but I am not familiar with C++,So I want to know that if Sailfish support PyQt5 ? Thanks :) ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list

Re: [SailfishDevel] Developing with SailfishOS - a short introduction

2013-12-01 Thread christopher . lamb
Hi Sven Have now downloaded. Lots of good content, but I need to read through it a few more times to comment in detail. One thing that immediately occurs to me is: 2.3 Linux While it is not "supported", an instalation of Sailfish within a Linux VM hosted on OSX works quite happily. It is s

Re: [SailfishDevel] Developing with SailfishOS - a short introduction

2013-12-01 Thread Sven Putze
MultiMarkDown seems promising as it does not require Emacs, but I am not sure yet. BR. Sven On 01.12.2013, at 20:41, Sven Putze wrote: > Hi David, > > there are no religious feelings about LaTeX from my side, so I will sleep > over using another markup language :-) > I definitely could use so

Re: [SailfishDevel] Developing with SailfishOS - a short introduction

2013-12-01 Thread David Greaves
On 01/12/13 15:18, Sven Putze wrote: > Hi there, > > first of all: this is far from complete and basically just a skeleton yet. > Nevertheless I have started to write down a howto for SailfishOS development. > Criticism, suggestions, bugfixes, contribution wanted! > > https://github.com/hardcode

Re: [SailfishDevel] The missing HelloWorld. Wizard included

2013-12-01 Thread Artem Marchenko
I see the goal for the project in helping with the correct structure and practices from the very beginning. IMHO one minuscule C++ object integrated into QML can improve HelloWorld if: 1. It sits inside a properly structured C++ part of a project 2. Has at least one unit-test located in the proper

Re: [SailfishDevel] Developing with SailfishOS - a short introduction

2013-12-01 Thread christopher . lamb
Hi Sven Github won't display the pdf, it's too big ... Looking forward to reading your idea; the more of us talking about Software Engineering the better! grüsse aus der Schweiz (mit Schnee) Chris Zitat von "Sven Putze" : Hi there, first of all: this is far from complete and basically j

[SailfishDevel] Developing with SailfishOS - a short introduction

2013-12-01 Thread Sven Putze
Hi there, first of all: this is far from complete and basically just a skeleton yet. Nevertheless I have started to write down a howto for SailfishOS development. Criticism, suggestions, bugfixes, contribution wanted! https://github.com/hardcodes/developwithsailfishos BR. Sven _

Re: [SailfishDevel] community thoughts on app security

2013-12-01 Thread Marcin M.
Or maybe just leave it to the user, whether to use a sandbox or not? (set the default behavior and make override rules) -- Marcin 2013/12/1 Sven Putze > > >> > >> 2) Sandboxes are limiting, but matter. It is way more difficult to > freeze to death or misuse iPhone than Android. That probably g

[SailfishDevel] QtCreator quirk

2013-12-01 Thread Sven Putze
Hi all, with the usual QtCreator from the Qt project I have not experienced that but with the one in the SDK there often stays the progressbar named "Parsing" in the bottom right corner after loading a project. On top it has the color red which indicates an error but everything works just fine.

[SailfishDevel] Maintenace App leaves lock file

2013-12-01 Thread Sven Putze
Hi there, I don't know if this has been noted before, but on OSX the SDKMaintenanceTool.app creates a file called "lockmyApp1234865.lock" and this one may be left. I have 3 machines with the SDK and that files does not exist on each of them. Funny thing: it doesn't seem to matter if that file e

Re: [SailfishDevel] community thoughts on app security

2013-12-01 Thread Sven Putze
>> >> 2) Sandboxes are limiting, but matter. It is way more difficult to freeze to >> death or misuse iPhone than Android. That probably goes against Mer/Sailfish >> philosophy though. > Yeah, I would say properly tested applications & community feedback are > enough and no artificial limitat

Re: [SailfishDevel] community thoughts on app security

2013-12-01 Thread Sven Putze
Hi all, there is also the question how to handle rogue apps? Yes, there is a paragraph in the harbour rules that says something like "don't do bad things" but what if an app does? Maybe after some time or triggered from an external server? Users should be at least informed, revoking such apps li

Re: [SailfishDevel] community thoughts on app security

2013-12-01 Thread Martin Kolman
1.12.2013 13:22, artem.marche...@gmail.com: A couple of points from an experienced of developing several small Symbuan-Meego apps and managing development of iOS apps. Just notes of somebody who likes development yet prefers thinking about the user rather than superior hacker-user. 1) if we a

Re: [SailfishDevel] community thoughts on app security

2013-12-01 Thread Sven Putze
Hi Artem and all, > > 2) Sandboxes are limiting, but matter. It is way more difficult to freeze to > death or misuse iPhone than Android. That probably goes against Mer/Sailfish > philosophy though. > But a sandbox must not be a bad thing per se. We could learn a lot from the app bundle file

Re: [SailfishDevel] The missing HelloWorld. Wizard included

2013-12-01 Thread Sven Putze
Hi Artem and all, well, I don't have developed for Android yet and I don't intend to do so :-) Regarding this example, I was thinking if extending this one or create a bigger one as 2nd dive-in option. In such a bigger approach one could provide something like a Sailfish independent business mod

Re: [SailfishDevel] community thoughts on app security

2013-12-01 Thread artem . marchenko
A couple of points from an experienced of developing several small Symbuan-Meego apps and managing development of iOS apps. Just notes of somebody who likes development yet prefers thinking about the user rather than superior hacker-user.

Re: [SailfishDevel] The missing HelloWorld. Wizard included

2013-12-01 Thread artem . marchenko
Hi Sven and allI was thinking similar myself and I am migrating too. Just from Symbian-Meego-desktop Qt, not from iOS. And src/test folder structure is standard in Qt world. It annoyed me a lot that I couldn't easily go to this structure from the Creator wizard. Plus "just helloworld" encourages no

Re: [SailfishDevel] QA app rejected for non absolute icon path

2013-12-01 Thread Gabriel Böhme
Oh my god! :D I totaly missunderstood it, I thought it means, that my file is without an absolute path. :D Okay, thank you very much. Gabriel. Am 01.12.2013 11:42, schrieb Jonni Rainisto: Change following line: Icon=/usr/share/icons/hicolor/86x86/apps/harbour-cubetimer.png to: Icon=harbour

Re: [SailfishDevel] QA app rejected for non absolute icon path

2013-12-01 Thread Jonni Rainisto
Change following line: Icon=/usr/share/icons/hicolor/86x86/apps/harbour-cubetimer.png to: Icon=harbour-cubetimer re, Jonni From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Gabriel Böhme [m.gabrielboe...@googlemail.com] S

[SailfishDevel] QA app rejected for non absolute icon path

2013-12-01 Thread Gabriel Böhme
Hi sailors and maybe QA people, I submitted two projects to Jolla Store QA and both where rejected for the following reason: /Validate desktop file/ /Desktop file ./usr/share/applications/harbour-cubetimer.desktop is missing valid Icon declaration!/ // /just:/ /Icon=harbour-c

Re: [SailfishDevel] The missing HelloWorld. Wizard included

2013-12-01 Thread Putze Sven
Hi, one thing I am trying to wrap my head around is the usage of a project for different devices/operating systems (why? because a living ecosystem needs to attract more developers and those coming from other platforms will come if they already use Qt or see a chance in switching to Qt but they

Re: [SailfishDevel] Qt5.2/NFC API in sailfishos

2013-12-01 Thread Jukka Eklund
Good topic, hope to see answers! I know the hardware has limitations regarding NFC, officially it is limited to be used for the other half. BTW, I assume you mean Jolla - have not heard of any jPhone. -Jukka On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Tone Kastlunger wrote: > +1 on this one > > > On Sa