Re: ConsoleKit documentation needed

2010-08-13 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > What are they doing and how is ck-launch-session different from > ck-xinit-session? The differences are extremely minor. The latter was written first to fill a specific need for fedora and was stuffed in the xorg-x11-xinit package,

gnome 3.2

2011-09-27 Thread Ray Strode
Hey everyone, I'm going to be doing a big gnome 3.2 update for f16 soon and as such I've been running a script to automate package bumps/rebuilds. The script[1] is pretty hacked together so it may not always do the right thing. It's chugging through the output of "jhbuild list" for the gnome-app

tomboy orphaned

2011-04-27 Thread Ray Strode
Hey guys, A long, long time ago (before the extras/core merge in fact i think) i was given tomboy to help spread the influx of mono packages across desktop team. IIt's a neat program, but I don't really use it. I'm more of a send-myself-email/scribble-on-whiteboard kind of guy. I'm also not very

Re: updates-testing trainwreck.

2010-11-19 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Dave Jones wrote: > Wtf happened in updates-testing ? > > gdm and a bunch of other stuff crashes on startup.. >  gdm[1622]: #9  0x0032031195aa in gtk_icon_theme_lookup_icon () from > /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 >  gdm[1622]: #10 0x00320311a08c in

Re: pulseaudio crashes: non-responsive maintainer Lennart Poettering

2010-11-20 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> filed month+ ago: >>       https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=643296 >> >> Simple fix of memory corruption affecting various applications incl. >> Firefox. >> >> Completed "Policy for nonresponsive package maintainers" there, got

Re: SSD support in Anaconda/F14

2010-12-26 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 10:32 AM, drago01 wrote: > You don't want to use LVM (and you should mount the fs with the > discard option for trim to work). At plumbers it came out during the filesystem talk that the discard option is a really bad idea. It apparently has performance and reliabilty

Re: systemd fail-to-boot in rawhide

2011-02-23 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Another option would be to parse fsck's output and forward it in some > form to Plymouth to show in the normal progress bar. But I am not sure > if Plymouth can actually do that. (Ray?) Also, this doesn't solve the > problem that we

Re: [HEADS-UP] systemd is now the default init system in rawhide

2010-07-28 Thread Ray Strode
Hi On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Sat, 24.07.10 00:14, Casey Dahlin (cdah...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> >> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:54:50PM -0500, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: >> > On 7/23/2010 20:26, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> > > - You can boot into either of them

Re: Do you know how many 64-bit architectures Fedora has?

2015-08-24 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, > If someone can > suggest a better way than how I'm doing it now, I'm all ears, because I hate > this patch[0]. I think the solution you came up with from this thread is okay as a downstream hack, but I think a better solution would be to get upstream to ask apt at built time where to put met

Re: How to handle upgrades to Fedora 21

2014-10-03 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, > I agree with Rahul that "standard" is not a great name for the > nonstandard, non-productized upgrade, though. "Generic" is more > descriptive anyway. I'm not sure it's worth repainting the bikeshed at this point, but during the alluded-to discussion a few alternative names came up that woul

Re: disruptive libffi upgrade

2012-04-13 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Colin Walters wrote: > You have to temper guidelines with some thought.  How recently > have these symbols been introduced?  Are you aware of anything that > actually calls them?  If nothing does, have you considered simply > removing them?   Or, have you co

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-05-03 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Cosimo Cecchi wrote: > What do you think? > > [1] https://github.com/cosimoc/fedora-welcome Looking I see this: // provided by the 'anaconda' package anacondaApp = Gio.DesktopAppInfo.new('anaconda.desktop'); if (!anacondaApp) anacondaApp = Gio.DesktopAppI

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-05-04 Thread Ray Strode
Hey again, On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Cosimo Cecchi wrote: >> // provided by the 'anaconda' package >> anacondaApp = Gio.DesktopAppInfo.new('anaconda.desktop'); >> if (!anacondaApp) >>     anacondaApp = Gio.DesktopAppInfo.new('liveinst.desktop'); >> >> I think you only want liveinst.desktop

Re: On running gui applications as root

2015-10-31 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, > It's certainly the case that *gnome* might do something ridiculous if > you 'sudo gedit' something, but 'sudo emacs' really ought to be > equally acceptable regardless of whether you're using the terminal or > X frontend. emacs is probably okay, just by virtue of the fact that if the admin g

wayland in rawhide

2015-11-10 Thread Ray Strode
Hey guys, Today I built snapshots of gnome-session gdm gnome-shell and mutter that change how we do sessions at the login screen. We'll no longer have separate items for GNOME and GNOME on Wayland. Instead they're now both consolidated under the GNOME item. That item will use wayland if it can,

Re: wayland in rawhide

2015-11-11 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 4:32 PM, David Airlie wrote: > I'd rather we waited until wayland sessions are feature equivalent with X. Note this is in rawhide, early in the Fedora 24 devel cycle. If things don't work out, going back isn't hard. > Sweeping this under the carpet and then not provi

Re: wayland in rawhide

2015-11-11 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 3:35 PM, David Airlie wrote: > Maybe trialing GNOME on wayland as the default is premature but removing the > option > on login to use GNOME on X is definitely. As such I respectfully ask you put > that > option back in rawhide. So just to be clear, there is an optio

Re: wayland in rawhide

2015-11-11 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 7:58 PM, David Airlie wrote: > >> That's fine. I don't have a problem adding "GNOME on Xorg" option to >> the session >> menu in the interim. I'll do it tomorrow. > > This is what the feature page said would happen in the first place. So > I'm also confused why you di

Re: wayland in rawhide

2015-11-12 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, > This seems still still be confusing a lot of people, I see quite > regularly queries on some forums like G+ that when they upgrade to > anything post F-21 all they get is a black screen on boot. Is there > any way that if way for that to happen automatically where they don't > get to a gdm l

Re: wayland in rawhide

2015-11-12 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 5:51 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote: > I've been testing Wayland myself since around the F22 time period, but > "middle click paste" and the occasional odd bug keep annoying me enough to > go back to X. Can you elaborate on the plans for supporting middle click to > paste,

Re: wayland in rawhide

2015-11-12 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, > So I upgraded to F23 just around Alpha or Beta can’t remember and I’ve > experienced some odd mouse / copy paste behaviour. I haven’t yet filed a bug > but now I’m wondering… How do I know if I’m using Wayland? I’ve never > specifically configured it so anything I’m experiencing in a norm

Re: [RFC] DistGit Container Image namespacing for Layered Image Build Service

2015-11-12 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Adam Miller wrote: > If we were to go with the former rather than the latter, we would need > to find a way to "namespace" container images so they can be > determined as different. I've thought about this a lot and I worry > about defining a namespace by some

Re: wayland in rawhide

2015-11-13 Thread Ray Strode
hi, > Here's one on Ironlake, with two monitors plugged in. > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750610 > > still not fixed, doesn't fall back. Well, black screens obviously aren't good, and we should clearly fix this. If we don't get it fixed by closer to release, than maybe it's a goo

Re: wayland in rawhide

2015-11-16 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote: > Can you please tell me where to find this config option, as I can't seem to > find it -- and I'm getting annoyed with Wayland enough to go back to X for a > week or two until things improve. WaylandEnable=false in /etc/gdm/custom.conf i

Re: systemd requires HTTP server and serves QR codes

2012-10-08 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Correct. Note that this is not accessible at all, by default, and mostly > a preview for now. Later on we will add http digest auth and proper TLS > support (including client certs) if people want to control > access. (thankfully, l

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

2016-06-02 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > Leaking session processes have been a perennial problem that > we have been battling forever (gconf, ibus, pulseaudio, the list goes > on...). And they are causing actual problems, from preventing re-login > to subtly breaking the next

Re: systemd 230 change - KillUserProcesses defaults to yes

2016-06-02 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, > I don't think we need to change Fedora 24 for this. Unless I misunderstood, > this > systemd change has not been pushed to Fedora 24 (nor proposed for it). We're > prepping for how to deal with things in Fedora 25. No, I was the one misunderstanding things. I thought the systemd change go

Re: prefered way of configuring X11 keyboard layouts in F18

2012-12-21 Thread Ray Strode
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Qui, 2012-12-20 at 20:16 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> IIRC, an anaconda bug already exists (don't remember the number, I do >> remember answering some questions Mismo asked about the Debian system >> there) > > I need the number https:

Re: Fedora Members Absent or present?

2013-01-20 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, > Interesting script. Is it planned bring it into Fedora rpm? Say in > fedora-packager or standalone package? It does seem interesting, though, when I run it on me it doesn't give dates for recent mailing list posts, and isn't able to show bugzilla activity. Still, very cool hack, overall! -

Re: Install from ISO file supported

2013-01-20 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, > 1. Download a LiveCD Fedora.iso (it takes less time than download the DVD > iso file) > 2. Launch fedup --iso Fedora-LiveCD.iso, that make the job of adjusting > GRUB2 i.a. > 3. Reboot the system > 3. Choose LiveCD entry from GRUB2) Perform the installation as you wish Unfortunately, the wa

Re: Install from ISO file supported

2013-01-20 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, > I find it easier (and smaller) to download the netinst.iso (like > Fedora-18-x86_64-netinst.iso) > Loop-back mount and pull the vmlinuz and initrd.img into /boot The vmlinuz and initrd are made available separately here: http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora//releases/18/Fedora/x86_64/os/images/

Re: Improving the Fedora boot experience

2013-03-12 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, >> This is an interesting idea, but I don't think plymouth makes it any >> easier to display CJK & Indic glyphs. (Please someone more technical >> tell me if I'm wrong here, I vaguely remember this being an issue when >> we wanted to add a messagse to fedup) > > I hoped that it would be easier

Re: Improving the Fedora boot experience

2013-03-12 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Matej Cepl wrote: > And which doesn’t nonsensically short timeout, so that I manage to get > booted sometimes only on third or fourth attempt (yes, I am easily > distracted to do something else while the system boots up; you have > a problem with that?) I have

Re: Improving the Fedora boot experience

2013-03-14 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Björn Persson wrote: > How about turning the messages that Plymouth needs to display into > pictures? There would be a set of pre-rendered image files with > translations of the phrase "Press Esc if you want to see what's going > on." for all the different loc

Re: F21 downloads repository metadata in 3 places!

2014-12-17 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:14 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: > I'm erring on the network panel in gnome-control-center; but I agree > there's no really good place for this kind of thing. maybe key whether or not to download updates based on the zone (which is used strictly for firewall atm, but cou

Re: Changes in the f22 workstation

2015-02-20 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Pete Travis wrote: > I'm nervous about GDM on Wayland; Wayland has never worked well on my > systems. Can you talk about fallback strategies a bit? Can GDM detect when > Wayland isn't working well enough to be usable, and cleanly fall back? It tries to. We

Re: Changes in the f22 workstation

2015-02-21 Thread Ray Strode
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Vit Ondruch wrote: > Same experience with gdm-3.15.90.1-1.fc23 here. I had to downgrade to > gdm-3.15.3.1-4.fc22.x86_64 to be able to log in again. Nevertheless, this > seems to be know issue, since there is already this [1] commit in dist-git, > unfortunately t

Re: Changes in the f22 workstation

2015-02-21 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Ray Strode wrote: > odd i thought i built that yesterday. something must have went wrong, > will built it today I guess I got distracted and didn't upload the source tarball. building now. In the meantime, you can workaround the bug

Re: Draft Workstation WG Governance Charter

2013-10-30 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > The other positions will be filled by general election > every two years. As a special exception, four seats will be filled in > one year, with those positions chosen at random (unless some number of > members decide to step down). Voting w

Re: Draft Workstation WG Governance Charter

2013-10-30 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > In your opinion, should we have term limits imposed to ensure we have > fresh members coming into the WG? As I said in another email, I think > we should shoot for some continuity while also encouraging new members > to step up. Not sure.

Re: Is Gnome Software ready for primetime ?

2013-11-01 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Tim Lauridsen wrote: > Cleaned up the appdata xml > > https://github.com/timlau/yumex/blob/master/misc/yumex.appdata.xml Small errors here: Control want package repositories there is enabled for current session maybe should be: Control what package re

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-04 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, I think this is a pretty good starting point for our development direction, and sets the stage for us making positive progress in the new working group model. I do think we should keep it open to tweaks in the future as things play out, (at the discretion of the 9 members on the working group

Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

2013-11-05 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, - Original Message - > > We should be enabling the user to get the things > > done he/she cares about, not forcing them to learn the things we care > > about. > > > > There should be no "You must be this tall to ride Fedora Workstation" > > signs. > [...snip...] > > Is it the intent

Re: /usr/share/xsessions and window manager

2013-11-19 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > fluxbox appears to provide both a session definition file and an > application file: > > /usr/share/xsessions/fluxbox.desktop > /usr/share/applications/fluxbox.desktop I know in the past openbox has used gnome-session for startup. gn

Re: Multiseat seems broken in Fedora 24

2016-11-03 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, > Is this use case still supported by Fedora? It's definitely not a tested use case. Definitely worth filing a bug in upstream (gnome) bugzilla. I wouldn't be surprised if there's more than one bug that needs to get fixed before it will work again, though. It's going to get worse after https

Re: Seeking the maintainer of dbus-python

2020-02-12 Thread Ray Strode
hi, On Wednesday, February 12, 2020, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Ray, could you please give this package to to FAS user "vtrefny"? sure. amigadave, do you want to be comaintainer too? Ray ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscri

Re: Seeking the maintainer of dbus-python

2020-02-12 Thread Ray Strode
hi, On Wednesday, February 12, 2020, Miro Hrončok wrote: >> sure. amigadave, do you want to be comaintainer too? > > You can only make one person a main admin. Any co-maintainers can be handled later by them. well i added neal and amigadave as admins, too, before giving the project to vojtech.

Changing nsswitch.conf on a running system (was Re: /etc/nssswitch.conf is supposed to be a symlink now?)

2018-11-28 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Wed, Nov 28, 2018, 9:45 AM Florian Weimer /etc/nsswitch.conf is owned by glibc. It is not a symbolic link as we > ship it. > > If find out which packages replaces our configuration with a symbolic > link, please file a bug against that package. If they want to take over > /etc/nsswitch.c

Re: RFC: switch to uvesafb and drop openchrome in F31+

2019-04-24 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, You laid this out pretty nicely. So a few questions: 1) uvesafb is only a /dev/fb driver right ? I guess it won't help with gnome-shell, but might help with weston? 2) I believe SimpleDRM is a drm version of uvesafb...have you considered it? 3) One thing i'm worried about is races with the r

Re: Flatpaks in src.fedproject.org - a namespace conumdrum

2018-09-04 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 4:00 PM Owen Taylor wrote: > Each flatpak needs to be tagged into two koji tags: > > f29-modular-updates (this is the destination for the module build) > f29-flatpak (this is the destination for the Flatpak container build) > > The package list for each koji tag is

Re: Non-responsive package maintainer - Ray Strode (halfline), Plymouth package

2018-10-01 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:29 PM Stephen wrote: > The maintainer for Plymouth, Ray Strode (halfline), is not addressing > its bugs on RHBZ (one response all year on a single bug, accepting a > patch), including showstopper bugs that are preventing boot entirely in > some instances

Re: Attention Gmail users, please turn off HTML mail

2018-10-04 Thread Ray Strode
> I suggest that if we think this is a serious issue and that we want to > get the maximum possible help to those who are forced to pay by the > bit that we stop sending them mail they don't need all together. Lets > move this mailing list (and others) to discussion.fedoraproject.org. Why switch,

Re: Small rant: installer environment size

2022-12-09 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 2:55 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > This is the direction Daniel was thinking down. I'm waiting for someone > with more expertise to reply, but I suspect the reply is going to be > along the lines of "yes, we *can* do that, but it's somewhat tricky > work that involves thi

Re: orphaning some packages

2022-11-29 Thread Ray Strode
ies libbonobo libbonoboui libgnome libgnomeui gtk2 UI designer that uses above GNOME libraries glade2 --Ray On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 10:53 AM Ray Strode wrote: > > Hi, > > Over the years, I've acquired some packages that aren't really widely > used anymore. I'm orphaning th

Re: remote X connections

2017-11-30 Thread Ray Strode
gdm-3.26.2.1-3.fc27 Update ID: FEDORA-2017-e8628817ff Content Type: rpm Release: Fedora 27 Status: pending Typ

Re: F34 gdm login prompt goes crazy when a fingerprint reader with no enrolled prints is present

2021-02-27 Thread Ray Strode
ah i think we need to pull in https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/1683 Ray On Sat, Feb 27, 2021, 2:31 PM Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi Benjamin, Ray, > > I noticed this problem while dogfooding F34, I'm fully up2date as of today. > > Today's gdm update did help in making th

Re: F34 gdm login prompt goes crazy when a fingerprint reader with no enrolled prints is present

2021-02-27 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Sat, Feb 27, 2021, 2:56 PM Ray Strode wrote: > ah i think we need to pull in > > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/1683 > seems like this is already in updates. you definitely have the gnome-shell 40.beta installed? could be a pam_fprintd is

Re: F34 gdm login prompt goes crazy when a fingerprint reader with no enrolled prints is present

2021-03-01 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 9:46 AM Hans de Goede wrote: > > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/1683 > > > > seems like this is already in updates. you definitely have the gnome-shell > > 40.beta in

Re: F34 gdm login prompt goes crazy when a fingerprint reader with no enrolled prints is present

2021-03-02 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, Ahh, okay. On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 9:31 AM Hans de Goede wrote: > sudo authselect select minimal > sudo authselect apply-changes > > Which results in the following /etc/pam.d/fingerprint-auth file: > > [hans@x1 linux]$ sudo cat /etc/pam.d/fingerprint-auth > # Generated by authselect on Tue Ma

Re: F34 gdm login prompt goes crazy when a fingerprint reader with no enrolled prints is present

2021-03-02 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Tue, Mar 2, 2021, 11:20 AM Pavel Březina wrote: > Can you reiterate the problem? The snippet above don't tell me much. Sorry, let me summarize (but also see Benjamin's email). Right now, if fingerprint auth is disabled in authselect, it's not disabling fingerprint auth at the graphical lo

Re: X11 support removed from GDM 1:47.0-1

2024-10-20 Thread Ray Strode
Hi again, On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:34 AM Ray Strode wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:04 AM Ray Strode wrote: >>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 10:03 AM old sixpack13 wrote: >>> >>> - after that the option to choose Xorg is there again, but trying to login >

Re: X11 support removed from GDM 1:47.0-1

2024-10-20 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 11:04 AM Ray Strode wrote: > I'll do a fresh install of F41 now and try to reproduce. > So I did the fresh install and reproduced. It was a missing symlink. I'm doing a fresh build now and will update the update

Re: X11 support removed from GDM 1:47.0-1

2024-10-20 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Sun, Oct 20, 2024, 1:52 AM Joe Doss wrote: > This is going to cause a lot of problems for users that use Fedora for > things such as gaming on Linux. Some games do not work well with Wayland > just yet and have many issues. Screen sharing on things like Zoom have > had major issues too in

Re: X11 support removed from GDM 1:47.0-1

2024-10-20 Thread Ray Strode
Hi again, On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 8:07 AM Ray Strode wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 20, 2024, 1:52 AM Joe Doss wrote: > >> This is going to cause a lot of problems for users that use Fedora for >> things such as gaming on Linux. Some games do not work well with Wayland >> ju

Re: X11 support removed from GDM 1:47.0-1

2024-10-20 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 10:03 AM old sixpack13 wrote: > - after that the option to choose Xorg is there again, but trying to login > with Xorg just throws me back to the login screen; wayland is fine. > > anyone too ? > I'll do a fresh install of F41 now and try to reproduce. --Ray -- ___