Re: Automating package maintainers responsivity check

2018-11-17 Thread Philip Kovacs
There already is a fedora_active_user script of sorts  https://github.com/pypingou/fedora-active-user. I would not be in favor of any respond or die automation.   We volunteer our time and effort to be packagersand the job is often thankless enough as it is.  Having some additional automation or

Re: Automating package maintainers responsivity check

2018-11-18 Thread Philip Kovacs
ant to find a way to automate notification that a maintainer is unresponsive after a reasonably period, fine.   Obsoleting their packages is just wrong however. On Sunday, November 18, 2018, 4:45:00 AM EST, Mattia Verga wrote: Il 11/17/18 10:59 PM, Philip Kovacs ha scritto:   You wa

Re: What to I have to do....

2017-12-09 Thread Philip Kovacs
I am opposed to allowing PP unfettered access to projects in which the maintainer(s) are responsive.  It's common for developers to have artistic (volatile) temperaments , like a painter who paints on canvas owned by someone else.  Does the owner have the right to change the color jars?  Perhaps

Re: What to I have to do....

2017-12-09 Thread Philip Kovacs
s/do want/do NOT want On Saturday, December 9, 2017 1:21 PM, Philip Kovacs wrote: I am opposed to allowing PP unfettered access to projects in which the maintainer(s) are responsive.  It's common for developers to have artistic (volatile) temperaments , like a painter who pain

Re: What to I have to do....

2017-12-09 Thread Philip Kovacs
ber 9, 2017 2:13 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Sat, Dec 09, 2017 at 06:26:28PM +, Philip Kovacs wrote: > s/do want/do NOT want > >    On Saturday, December 9, 2017 1:21 PM, Philip Kovacs >wrote: >  > >  I am opposed to allowing PP unfettered access to pro

Re: What to I have to do....

2017-12-12 Thread Philip Kovacs
at the maintainer is demonstrating "unchecked abusive behavior."   For Pete's sake.   On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 7:09 AM, Graham Leggett wrote: On 09 Dec 2017, at 8:21 PM, Philip Kovacs wrote: I am opposed to allowing PP unfettered access to projects in which the

Re: [Proposal] Mass change: remove executing gtk-update-icon-cache in %post/%postu/%postrans to update hicolor theme cache

2018-01-03 Thread Philip Kovacs
Can we remove the gtk-update-icon-cache entries from our packages now, manually, in advance of the mass update?   On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 11:10 AM, Charalampos Stratakis wrote: - Original Message - > From: "Tomasz Kłoczko" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora

Re: [Test-Announce] Call for testing: updates to address today's CPU/kernel vulnerability

2018-01-03 Thread Philip Kovacs
Any word on the performance hit before you push to stable?  Is it discernible? On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 8:15 PM, stan wrote: On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 15:02:11 -0800 Adam Williamson wrote: > * We know that the fix can lead to reduced performance in some cases > (this affects synthetic

Re: Test gating enabled in Bodhi

2018-01-23 Thread Philip Kovacs
Can someone please elaborate on how I can control the abi tests directly?Where exactly can I access these and refine them on a per-package basis? How to fix the tests? The tests are all in your hand, you can fix the dist.depcheck and dist.abicheck  by adjusting the update or the build and you can

Re: Test gating enabled in Bodhi

2018-01-23 Thread Philip Kovacs
On Tue, 2018-01-23 at 21:25 +, Philip Kovacs wrote: >> Can someone please elaborate on how I can control the abi tests >> directly?Where exactly can I access these and refine them on a per- >> package basis? >That text isn't talking about "fixing the tests&quo

Re: GCC broken in rawhide?

2018-01-25 Thread Philip Kovacs
I'm getting: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables On Friday, January 26, 2018 1:53 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Hi, ATM all rawhide builds are failing for me, because autoconf's tests for CC are failing. Digging into details led me to this error: ... cc1: error: fail t

Re: GCC broken in rawhide?

2018-01-27 Thread Philip Kovacs
Is Koschei eventually going to rebuild with the corrected gcc?  I see dependency changes after the last failed build, but Koschei hasn't rebuilt yet. On Saturday, January 27, 2018 4:01 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: ATM all rawhide builds are failing for me, because autoconf's tests fo

Re: [ACTION NEEDED] Missing BuildRequires: gcc/gcc-c++

2018-02-18 Thread Philip Kovacs
False positive on project pmix.  I checked my rawhide build logs for all six arches and there is no `checking for c++`, as you report, in the autotools configure output. The project is a C project and the spec properly lists BuildRequires: gcc`.  There is nothing wrong and nothing to do. O

Re: [ACTION NEEDED] Missing BuildRequires: gcc/gcc-c++

2018-02-18 Thread Philip Kovacs
Ok, my configure.ac initializes libtool with both c and c++ : LT_INIT()LT_LANG([C])LT_LANG([C++]) where only C is needed.   There are no ill-effects other than producing some noise in the configureoutput, but I will patch out the LT_LANG([C++]) line to trim the noise. On Sunday, February 18

Re: libtool and LDFLAGS build flags injection

2018-02-23 Thread Philip Kovacs
The bind now issue is a real problem for some packages.  I have interacted with upstream countlesstimes on it and simply lost the fight.  Please, whatever you do, leave some route to disable bind now. On Friday, February 23, 2018 10:55 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: I've seen a fair amount

Re: libtool and LDFLAGS build flags injection

2018-02-23 Thread Philip Kovacs
My particular concern is not "missing" bind now flags in the elf objects.  I am concerned aboutmaking sure bind now is omitted because the package cannot operate with that flag. On Friday, February 23, 2018 11:35 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: On 02/23/2018 05:16 PM, Philip Ko

Re: libtool and LDFLAGS build flags injection

2018-02-23 Thread Philip Kovacs
d, thousands or more nodes).  On Friday, February 23, 2018 12:26 PM, John Reiser wrote: Philip Kovacs wrote: > My particular concern is not "missing" bind now flags in the elf objects.  I > am concerned about > making sure bind now is omitted because the package ca

Re: Change to linker flags injection (#1548397)

2018-02-24 Thread Philip Kovacs
ents (from redhat-rpm-config). >> >> This will happen both in rawhide and Fedora 28. > > Are you also implementing a way to disable it, as Philip Kovacs asked > for yesterday? It's still for hardened builds only.  Sorry, I should have mentioned that.  It's next to -

How do you bump fedora-repos-rawhide to f29?

2018-03-03 Thread Philip Kovacs
I would settle for knowledge of where the f29/rawhide gpg keys are hidden so I import them. The "To Rawhide" instructions below are outdated as they direct you to a page where the f29/rawhideare not presented. Upgrading Fedora using package manager - Fedora Project Wiki | | | Upgrading

Re: How do you bump fedora-repos-rawhide to f29?

2018-03-03 Thread Philip Kovacs
Yeah I'm living in the chaos of going from f28 rawhide to f29 rawhide.    Thanks for the tips. On Saturday, March 3, 2018 5:26 PM, stan wrote: On Sat, 3 Mar 2018 21:15:22 + (UTC) Philip Kovacs wrote: > I would settle for knowledge of where the f29/rawhide gpg keys are

Re: How do you bump fedora-repos-rawhide to f29?

2018-03-03 Thread Philip Kovacs
Alright I got around the catch-22 of dnf needing the f29 keys in order to install the f29 keys with: dnf install --nogpgcheck fedora-gpg-keys-29-0.1 That cleared the road for me. On Saturday, March 3, 2018 5:41 PM, Philip Kovacs wrote: Yeah I'm living in the chaos of going fro

Introduction

2017-09-15 Thread Philip Kovacs
Hello all.  My name is Philip Kovacs and I would like to introduce myself. I'm in the US and I've been in software development for more than 25 years.  My interests are in parallel and distributed computing, cloud, networking,  virtualization, container technology, performance monitor

Re: Requires for local install

2017-09-23 Thread Philip Kovacs
Or use Fedora Copr to create personal repos for your projects.  There is a lot of utility in doing that,esp.  when you start dealing with multiple boxes or vms.  Doing local installs directly from rpms doesnot scale and becomes tedious very quickly.  If you're writing or modifying the spec yours

Re: RFC: -Wl,--as-needed by default

2017-11-13 Thread Philip Kovacs
One concern is that -Wl,--as-needed requires greater accuracy with the ordering of objects and  libraries as you link.   Also, if a package uses a library indirectly, i.e. A uses C via B: A -> B -> C,--as-needed will peel away C and break A unless A explicitly mentions its need for C.  Of course

Basic package split question

2017-12-01 Thread Philip Kovacs
If I have version 1 of package foo, containing items bar, xxx, yyy, zzz, i.e. foo-1-barxxxyyyzzz and, for version 2, bar is split off to its own sub-package, foo-bar, so that  the desired packaging becomes: foo-2         foo-bar-2-         -xxx           baryyyzzz with foo-bar perma

Re: Basic package split question

2017-12-02 Thread Philip Kovacs
PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Sat, 2017-12-02 at 10:25 +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > On Sat, 2017-12-02 at 09:24 +0100, Mattia Verga wrote: > > Il 01/12/2017 20:20, Philip Kovacs ha scritto: > > > If I have version 1 of package foo, containing items bar, xxx, yyy,

fedpkg on rawhide

2018-05-19 Thread Philip Kovacs
Is there a workaround or fix forthcoming for fedpkg? $ fedpkg --helpTraceback (most recent call last):  File "/usr/bin/fedpkg", line 6, in     from pkg_resources import load_entry_point  File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 3088, in     @_call_aside  File "/

Re: fedpkg on rawhide

2018-05-20 Thread Philip Kovacs
/19/2018 03:21 PM, Philip Kovacs wrote: > Is there a workaround or fix forthcoming for fedpkg? > > > $ fedpkg --helpTraceback (most recent call last):  File "/usr/bin/fedpkg", > line 6, in     from pkg_resources import load_entry_point  File > "/usr/lib/pyth

Re: Heads up: selinux-policy-3.14.1-25.fc28 breaks GDM

2018-05-24 Thread Philip Kovacs
I got hit with this too on F28 using negativo17's nvidia driver packages.Downgrading selinux-policy-3.14.1-25 / selinux-policy-targeted-3.14.1-25 clears it up.There's a fedora update to -3.14.1-29 pending: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2018-a74875b364 Too bad dnf doesn't allow

true or false: pkgconfig(foo) vs foo-devel

2019-07-18 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
A "necessary and sufficient" question on the use of .pc files supplied by library providers. 1. Package foo-devel installs a pkgconfig .pc file as a convenience to developers. 2. Package bar requires headers and libraries provided by foo and is both a build    and runtime dependency of foo.3. Pa

Re: true or false: pkgconfig(foo) vs foo-devel

2019-07-18 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
> It does not matter if the config process uses pkgconfig or not.  > Depending on the package name is not a way to state you're not using > pkgconfig, it's a way to get broken builds when the package you depend > on gets restructured. Then the docs should be strengthened to state the case from

Please sweep bodhi updates to testing in a timely manner

2019-08-10 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
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Re: Please sweep bodhi updates to testing in a timely manner

2019-08-10 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 at 13:22, Philip Kovacs via devel wrote: Why does it take days sometimes just to start the 7 day timer?  Can we have some examples to track this down? Because without that.. no idea and no way to fix.   ___ devel mailing list

Re: Please sweep bodhi updates to testing in a timely manner

2019-08-10 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
encetaking care of this. On Saturday, August 10, 2019, 04:40:31 PM EDT, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On 8/10/19 11:33 AM, Philip Kovacs via devel wrote: > Just look at the updates pending pages.  Here are f30 and f29, resp: > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?releases=F30&st

Re: Please sweep bodhi updates to testing in a timely manner

2019-08-10 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
> But there's not anything actually wrong anymore?\ >I'm not sure what else you would like me to do here...>kevin Yeah it's all good now -- f30 and f29 are all in testing now.   Thanks for checking.Phil___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproje

Re: hwloc update with so-bump and mpich rebuild

2019-08-29 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
Unfortunately mpich now failed, > so there'll be some delay. I'll submit one big update for F31 at the > end. > > Zbyszek > > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 06:19:36AM +, Philip Kovacs wrote: > >  > > Are you going to submit f31 bodhi updates for these

Re: hwloc update with so-bump and mpich rebuild

2019-08-29 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
Thanks Jerry -- what you describe is exactly what I am seeing in the build.log  Phil On Thursday, August 29, 2019, 04:20:22 PM EDT, Jerry James wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 2:05 PM Philip Kovacs via devel wrote: > Is there something odd going on with arch aarch64 -- openmpi bui

Please fix the aarch64 g++ pic problems in f32 rawhide

2019-08-29 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
Several of us are getting errors in our c++ packages related to missing PIC flags in aarch64. Something is amiss there.  A small snippet from openmpi: make[2]: Entering directory '/builddir/build/BUILD/openmpi-4.0.2rc1/ompi/mpi/cxx' /bin/sh ../../../libtool --tag=CXX --mode=link g++ -DNDEBUG

Re: Please fix the aarch64 g++ pic problems in f32 rawhide

2019-08-30 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
>On Friday, August 30, 2019, 07:45:19 AM EDT, Peter Robinson > wrote: >On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 10:21 PM Philip Kovacs via devel wrote: >> >> Several of us are getting errors in our c++ packages related to missing PIC >> flags in aarch64. >> >> Som

Re: Please fix the aarch64 g++ pic problems in f32 rawhide

2019-08-30 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
>>You're much better off including a couple of koji tasks/packages >>showing the issue, it's much easier to get some real context. >OK, here's one at least.  I have had to manually add -DPIC to the spec for >aarch64 in order to get>that arch to pass.  There were no problems with it up >until r

Re: aarch64 toolchain regression?

2019-09-03 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
>> Builds that were previously succeeding (e.g. pulseaudio) are now failing on  >> aarch64 with errors like: >> BUILDSTDERR: annobin: modules/module-loopback.c: ICE: Should be 64-bit >> target >> >> >> Failed scratch build: >> https://userbase.kde.org/Konversation/Configuring_SASL_authentication

Re: Please fix the aarch64 g++ pic problems in f32 rawhide

2019-09-08 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
>> OK, here's one at least.  I have had to manually add -DPIC to the spec for >> aarch64 in order to get >> that arch to pass.  There were no problems with it up until recently. >> >> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=37332928 >So I believe this is fixed with the rebuild on an

Need package review to unretire fastbit (a C++ lib)

2019-09-09 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
I am a little beyond the 8-week window for the "no-hassle" unretire, so I need a new review for the fastbit packagethat I retired a few months ago.   It's already in the Fedora git tree.  I have it building cleanly again and would liketo resurrect it.  I have gone over the review items locally,

test

2019-09-11 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
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rawhide no longer recognizing autotool macros

2019-06-18 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
I'm getting new build failures on the autotools macros that had been working for years.  rpmbuild doesn't likethem anymore in rawhide.  The macros are (or were) in the file `/usr/lib/rpm/macros`.   The relevant portion of my spec is here: -- spec -- %build%{__aclocal} -I auxdir%{__autoconf}%{__a

Re: rawhide no longer recognizing autotool macros

2019-06-18 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
OK, my builds are back in order having removed those macros and replaced them with commands. I expect that many package maintainers will be hit with this. On Wednesday, June 19, 2019, 12:01:31 AM EDT, Neal Gompa wrote: On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 10:48 PM Philip Kovacs via devel wrote

Re: rawhide no longer recognizing autotool macros

2019-06-19 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
I notice I am still using the `__make` macro in my specs.  While they still work, should we proactively replace them with `make` ? The additional message I am getting here is that the under-under macros might be subject to removal. ThanksPhil___ devel m

Re: rawhide no longer recognizing autotool macros

2019-06-19 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
sday, June 19, 2019, 11:31:24 AM EDT, Christophe de Dinechin wrote: > On 19 Jun 2019, at 17:28, Philip Kovacs via devel > wrote: > > I notice I am still using the `__make` macro in my specs.  While they still > work, should we proactively replace them with `make` ? What’s

Re: rawhide no longer recognizing autotool macros

2019-06-19 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
I use those macros wherever possible, but sometimes I need a raw `make`in order to specify uncommon targets. I'll just replace `__make` with `make` for now.   No harm there.On Wednesday, June 19, 2019, 12:06:44 PM EDT, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: Hello, Philip Kovacs via

gcc/g++ compiler memory exhaustion on build vms

2019-06-25 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
I am finding that one of my c++ packages has compilation units that generate very large assembly (.s)files -- so large that any attempt to build them in memory (e.g. with -pipe) causes memory exhaustion.The only way I have found to reliably get the build to run to completion is by using -save-te

Re: gcc/g++ compiler memory exhaustion on build vms

2019-06-25 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 01:05:13 AM EDT, John Reiser > wrote: > Please quantify: What is the byte size of the .s file? > First hint: give the virtual machine enough resources! > Either RAM, or "swap" (paging) space. The .s got up to about 375M before that particular g++ compile proce

Re: gcc/g++ compiler memory exhaustion on build vms

2019-06-25 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 02:42:29 AM EDT, Dan Horák wrote:> > what package is it? fastbit.   This evening I retired it in master since no upstream updates have been issued since 02/2016. https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/fastbit The build problems are completely recent, nothing "

Re: RPM building on s390x sometimes is very slow on F-30+

2019-07-11 Thread Philip Kovacs via devel
It's likely the big endian emulation running on little endian machines which is killing performance.  I also have some time sensitive package tests failing on s390x.   On Thursday, July 11, 2019, 05:30:28 AM EDT, Peter Lemenkov wrote: Hello All, Not sure if it's only me but every time