Re: Sources file audit - 2010-01-06

2010-01-20 Thread Nils Philippsen
tar.bz2:system-config-users-docs I forgot to upload the source tarballs for these, but have done so now. Thanks for the heads up. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty n...@r

Re: ABRT frustrating for users and developers

2010-01-25 Thread Nils Philippsen
that, e.g. when the issue is hard to reproduce. However, in that case it even more shouldn't attach an incomplete backtrace, because it's likely missing essential information for the developer: "Hmm, your backtrace is incomplete, can you reproduce it with this and that debuginfo

155 more python packages need to be rebuilt for Python 2.7

2010-08-11 Thread Nils Philippsen
27;python(abi) autodetection needed for all .py[co] files, not just those beneath /usr/lib*/python*' -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty n...@redhat.com nor Safety.&qu

Re: 155 more python packages need to be rebuilt for Python 2.7

2010-08-12 Thread Nils Philippsen
mmediately receive mail about status changes etc. To not forget about these updates, simply grab these builds, give them a whirl (test them), then add a comment to the updates. This gives the update karma and let's you receive status updates from now on, all in one go! Nils -- Nils Philippsen

Re: fedpkg prep

2010-09-01 Thread Nils Philippsen
dist > > or fix your repo". > > Or a "branch" file... :D Please don't, a file in the repo which needs to be different between branches would break merging between branches (which is one thing that makes dist-git so much better than dist-cvs). Nils -- Nils Philippsen

Re: fedpkg prep

2010-09-01 Thread Nils Philippsen
nce shouldn't hurt the ability to > merge or cherrypick diffs from one branch to another. I stand corrected. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty n...@redhat.com

Re: 15 or rawhide?

2010-09-15 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 17:13 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: > Shouldn't ABRT be looking to a file like /etc/fedora-release to > determine the release version? r...@rawhide:~> cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora release 15 (Finian) What you say ;-)? Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Thos

Re: Meeting summary/minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-09-14)

2010-09-16 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 22:46 -0400, Jon Masters wrote: > Right. I'm not saying Jarod should issue Fedora Arrest Warrants (FAWs?) I like this. We also need black helicopters. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat

Re: ImageMagick soname bump for F14

2010-09-17 Thread Nils Philippsen
ImageMagick-6.6.4.1-13.fc14 > > > Please excuse me what I did not ask early. Now I call to maintainers of > dependent packages - please rebuild it against new version of ImageMagick. Hi Pavel, please add the rss-glx-0.9.1.p-4.fc14 build to your ImageMagick update in bodhi so they both get updated

Re: Trouble with building packages in F16: "The moc has changed too much"

2011-08-02 Thread Nils Philippsen
n time (i.e. shouldn't be shipped in the tarball). Other than increasing compilation time, this shouldn't be an issue as moc is part of qt-devel. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety,

Re: Strange RPM versioning problem in qemu in Rawhide

2011-08-02 Thread Nils Philippsen
be fine :-). BTW, rpmdev-vercmp lets you compare arbitrary [e:]v[-r] combinations on the command line without having to have the affected packages handy. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety,

Re: Strange RPM versioning problem in qemu in Rawhide

2011-08-03 Thread Nils Philippsen
uot;snap"[.snapshot-revision]][.disttag] ... I'd order it most-to-least-significant regarding version comparison: ["0"-if-prerelease.]N[.disttag][.date-scm or "snap"[.snapshot-revision]] Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to p

Re: Strange RPM versioning problem in qemu in Rawhide

2011-08-04 Thread Nils Philippsen
pdate to a new > snapshot, so the .fc16 package would still trump .fc17. Right. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty n...@redhat.com nor Safety." -- Benjamin

Re: some locales crashes gnome-shell

2011-08-08 Thread Nils Philippsen
can e.g. run: Shell.util_format_date("%Z", new Date().getTime()); And see what it returns. Press Escape to leave LG. HTH, Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty n..

Re: rawhide report: 20110823 changes

2011-08-23 Thread Nils Philippsen
ou need to ask release engineering to block this package from f17 on -- you could untag the f17 builds, but then would probably get the f16 builds inherited into it... HTH, Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temp

Re: gimp

2011-08-25 Thread Nils Philippsen
an option as you can't install them into the same prefix: the libraries have the same SONAME, the new ones are expected to be ABI compatible. Therefore I don't see a real alternative to rebasing to 2.8 in stable Fedora releases when it finally is available, after thoroughly testing it of

Re: gimp

2011-08-25 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 11:58 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 08/25/2011 10:28 AM, Nils Philippsen wrote: > > > As well, installing both stable versions side-by-side isn't an option as > > you can't install them into the same prefix: the libraries have the same

Re: gimp

2011-08-26 Thread Nils Philippsen
the update into rawhide, > targetted for F16 or F17. F17 is my guess. Despite any possible (minor) UI changes, I'll probably have to rebase in F-15/6 then if we want to get bugfixes because (core) upstream pretty much ignores the 2.6.x branch. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Thos

Re: gimp

2011-08-29 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 15:03 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 08/25/2011 05:28 PM, Nils Philippsen wrote: > > > > You're probably referring to the updates 2.2->2.4 in '07 and 2.4->2.6 in > > '08 but please keep in mind that we're stuck with 2.6.x as

Re: floppy support

2011-08-30 Thread Nils Philippsen
ce unbootable, and a floppy the only available device to boot from > > without opening up the machine, if opening up is even any option at all. > > CD/DVD ? "Write Once Read Many"? Wait... "Write Once Read Once" in this case. Not cheap enough for that. Nils -- Nils Phili

So you want to test an unstable GIMP...

2011-09-01 Thread Nils Philippsen
epos.fedorapeople.org/repos/nphilipp/gimp-unstable/RPM-GPG-KEY-nphilipp [3]: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GIMP&version=2.7.3 [4]: http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/nphilipp/gimp-unstable/fedora-15/x86_64/fedora-gimp-unstable-release-2.7-1.fc15.noarch.rpm -- Nils Philippse

GIMP vs. poppler licensing, was: So you want to test an unstable GIMP...

2011-09-01 Thread Nils Philippsen
It seems one always forgets something... well, better this than leaving the stove on. On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 12:45 +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote: > Here's the gist (in no particular order): - GIMP 2.7 and later is licensed as "GPLv3+ and LGPLv3+" (executables, librarie

Re: GIMP vs. poppler licensing, was: So you want to test an unstable GIMP...

2011-09-05 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Sat, 2011-09-03 at 23:17 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Nils Philippsen wrote: > > Legal question: is it better to put this in its own subpackage to be > > able to specify this individual license, or would GIMP better have > > "GPLv3+ and LGPLv3+ and (GPLv2 or GPLv3)&qu

Re: submitters +1ing their own packages

2011-09-08 Thread Nils Philippsen
ctually tested the updated package(s). And my system is "in good condition" as per what I described above, I keep code to be tested in separate hierarchies, usually in subdirectories in my home. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purc

Re: submitters +1ing their own packages

2011-09-09 Thread Nils Philippsen
e, ensure that your testing environment isn't negatively affected by your developing." Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty n...@redhat.com nor Safety.&quo

Re: openssh: no pre-release sanity check? [Re: ssh-to-rawhide hangs

2011-09-12 Thread Nils Philippsen
have testers spend their time on spotting harder to find issues than on needlessly repairing their systems. Yes, Rawhide by its nature will break things eventually, but that's a matter of probability because it is the place where new (untested!) things get introduced. It shouldn't be a m

Re: openssh: no pre-release sanity check? [Re: ssh-to-rawhide hangs

2011-09-12 Thread Nils Philippsen
ing epoch is costlier in the long run as epoch is often disregarded. People using Rawhide should probably use "yum distro-sync" rather than "yum update". Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary

Re: submitters +1ing their own packages

2011-09-12 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 07:06 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Nils Philippsen wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 13:16 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> I don't think a maintainer can realistically replace wide-spread user > >> based test

Re: submitters +1ing their own packages

2011-09-12 Thread Nils Philippsen
; who will create other > Fedora accounts and give karma to his packages under different > identities. And that's supposed to mean... what? > You can even add karma without Fedora identity, but I am not sure if > that counts. It doesn't. Nils -- Nils Philippsen &qu

Re: submitters +1ing their own packages

2011-09-13 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 15:22 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 17:56 +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote: > > > > If there is > > > not enough karma for his package to bring it into the stable, then there > > > is probably time to ask somebody (p

Re: what if native systemd service is slower than old sysvinit script?

2011-09-16 Thread Nils Philippsen
with cold standby nodes (cold as in "off"). If the hot node went down, the cluster management software switched these standby nodes on, which booted normally then. In that case, a small boot time would have been very appreciated. I'm not sure if such scenarios are used nowadays. Nil

Responsibility for rebuilding dependent components, was: F-16 Branched report: 20110920 changes

2011-09-20 Thread Nils Philippsen
iginal maintainer to include them in the F-16 branched update. I'd like to see a discussion about how we can ensure -- within reasonable limits -- that e.g. bumping a library's SONAME is followed by dependent components being rebuilt and included with the providing component in one update.

Re: how to have yum prefer one dependency over others

2011-09-20 Thread Nils Philippsen
probably be pretty hard even with Suggests/Recommends because it partly depends on policy, i.e. what the admin wants. Nothing in the system can tell the package manager right now if which of these options should be used in this case. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Ess

Re: Responsibility for rebuilding dependent components, was: F-16 Branched report: 20110920 changes

2011-09-20 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 16:06 +0200, Nicolas Chauvet wrote: > 2011/9/20 Nils Philippsen : > > On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 13:53 +0200, Johannes Lips wrote: > >> What's wrong with all that broken deps? Is this just a missing rebuild > >> against opencv and other libs o

Re: Responsibility for rebuilding dependent components, was: F-16 Branched report: 20110920 changes

2011-09-20 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 16:07 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 09/20/2011 03:47 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 15:01:06 +0200, > >Nils Philippsen wrote: > >> > >> I'd like to see a discussion about how we can ensure -- within >

Re: Responsibility for rebuilding dependent components, was: F-16 Branched report: 20110920 changes

2011-09-20 Thread Nils Philippsen
uot;, like in "provenpackager-kde", "provenpackager-gnome", and "provenpackager" means all of these? Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty n..

Re: Responsibility for rebuilding dependent components, was: F-16 Branched report: 20110920 changes

2011-09-20 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 15:19 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 09/20/2011 03:01 PM, Nils Philippsen wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 13:53 +0200, Johannes Lips wrote: > >> What's wrong with all that broken deps? Is this just a missing rebuild > >> against opencv and

Re: Responsibility for rebuilding dependent components, was: F-16 Branched report: 20110920 changes

2011-09-20 Thread Nils Philippsen
ct. We need to make that judgement call, put the package in if > we are going to, test the hell out of it, and fix any breakage we > find. We need this iterative "test, report breakage, fix, retest" > process to be as fast as possible, and our current process moves at > the

Re: Responsibility for rebuilding dependent components, was: F-16 Branched report: 20110920 changes

2011-09-21 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 12:21 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > On 9/20/11 11:43 AM, Nils Philippsen wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 11:33 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > >> Of course, the accounts system _still_ doesn't have groups, five years > >> later, so provenpackage

Re: GDBM upgrade in F17

2011-09-21 Thread Nils Philippsen
ting the buildroot in bodhi, then untagging gdbm from f17 instead? Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty n...@redhat.com nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759

Re: Responsibility for rebuilding dependent components, was: F-16 Branched report: 20110920 changes

2011-09-21 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 22:25 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 09/20/2011 05:52 PM, Nils Philippsen wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 15:19 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > >> When you have a closer look, you'll notice that such "mass rebuilts" > >> wer

Re: GDBM upgrade in F17

2011-09-21 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Wed, 2011-09-21 at 11:29 +, Petr Pisar wrote: > On 2011-09-21, Nils Philippsen wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-09-21 at 10:59 +, Petr Pisar wrote: > >> Jan Horak (hhorak) is going to upgrade GDBM to version with new SONAME > >> in F17. Because rel-engs refused to p

Buildroot overrides in Rawhide, was: GDBM upgrade in F17

2011-09-21 Thread Nils Philippsen
have Rawhide usable but at the > end, if somebody wants to prevents problems using dedicated build root, > it is denied by Rel-Engs, because it is probably to much work. This is > disappointing. It shouldn't really involve rel-eng at all, Bodhi buildroot overrides should just do this

Re: Responsibility for rebuilding dependent components, was: F-16 Branched report: 20110920 changes

2011-09-21 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Wed, 2011-09-21 at 15:51 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 09/21/2011 01:25 PM, Nils Philippsen wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 22:25 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> On 09/20/2011 05:52 PM, Nils Philippsen wrote: > >>> On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 15:19 +0200, Ralf Cor

Re: GDBM upgrade in F17

2011-09-29 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Wed, 2011-09-21 at 08:49 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:32:59 +0200 > Nils Philippsen wrote: > > > On Wed, 2011-09-21 at 11:29 +, Petr Pisar wrote: > > > On 2011-09-21, Nils Philippsen wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2011-09-21 at 10:59 +

Re: Remaining F16 blockers and F16 planning (2011-10-26)

2011-10-27 Thread Nils Philippsen
> > this week. > > > > Just heard from Nils that that should be resolved by now, see > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=668282#c49 Yep, it's waiting for a proventester to test and karma it. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential

Re: F17 heads up: gnome-shell for everyone!

2011-11-04 Thread Nils Philippsen
of top (ha!) -- but to be fair, opening the GNOME 2 panel application menu for the first time wasn't quicker (at least for me). Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty n...

Re: Orphaning Package

2011-04-05 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Mon, 2011-04-04 at 22:07 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > python-meld3 > supervisor Taken. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty n...@redhat.com

Re: Calling autoconf in a spec.

2011-07-04 Thread Nils Philippsen
figure, Makefile.in, etc. files to the state I got after running autoreconf -- which makes builds (better) repeatable. I'd really love to be able to re-run current auto-tools on old Makefile.am/configure.{in,ac} files and the results to work in all cases, but right now that seems utopian

Re: Update ImageMagick

2011-07-04 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 10:39 +0400, Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote: > Today or in next few days I'll plan update ImageMagick in rawhide to > version 6.7.0-8. And we're still waiting... ;-) Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty

Re: Calling autoconf in a spec.

2011-07-04 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 15:07 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Nils Philippsen wrote: > > I'd really love to be able to re-run current auto-tools on old > > Makefile.am/configure.{in,ac} files and the results to work in all > > cases, but right now that seems utopian to me

Re: Update ImageMagick

2011-07-04 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 18:10 +0400, Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote: > Now ImageMagick built against new gcc. Great, thanks! Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither L

Re: Update ImageMagick

2011-07-04 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 16:33 +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote: > On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 18:10 +0400, Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) > wrote: > > Now ImageMagick built against new gcc. > > Great, thanks! Now that I've rebuilt rss-glx against the new ImageMagick version I s

Re: vsftpd in the news

2011-07-05 Thread Nils Philippsen
gnatures b) from keypairs not more than a certain "distance" (web-of-trust-wise) away from a known good keypair, we'd be able to trim down the package repositories substantially ;-). So for the time being I guess we should stick with letting package maintainers check this (of there

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v2] Retiring packages in F-16

2011-07-13 Thread Nils Philippsen
.26.0-3.fc15 > gcdmaster requires libgnomecanvasmm-2.6.so.1 > referencer requires libgnomecanvasmm-2.6.so.1 As I use ardour regularly, I've taken this one (in Fedora, not EPEL) but would be glad to have comaintainers, e.g. from people maintaining the depending packages. Nil

Support for separate /usr, was: Moving lspci and setpci from /sbin to /usr/sbin?

2010-02-09 Thread Nils Philippsen
will it be closed WONTFIX right away because separate /usr is officially not supported? Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty n...@redhat.com nor Safety." -- Benja

Glade woes, was: Purging the F13 orphans

2010-02-09 Thread Nils Philippsen
f to GtkBuilder and that glade2 living longer doesn't help with that. As long as glade3 has these problems, projects which have legacy glade files need to somehow stay afloat. Feel free to comment. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Ha

Re: ABRT unusable again

2010-02-11 Thread Nils Philippsen
t screensaver gets active, then inactive/unlocked). In my opinion this would be much less intimidating to users and give us bug reports where we can actually help instead of having to tell most of them "sorry, too few info, can't help" right away. Those who don't care enou

Re: ABRT unusable again

2010-02-12 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 10:42 +0100, Till Maas wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 03:15:39AM +0100, Nils Philippsen wrote: > > > What strikes me as very puzzling is why abrt has this humongous dialog > > instead of leading the user step-by-step through this... I know you just >

Re: intent to retire: kudzu

2010-04-14 Thread Nils Philippsen
> useful updates there. I've retired hwbrowser in Rawhide/F-13 as well, it doesn't make sense to keep it around as it can't handle much of the the new hardware, i.e. anything kudzu doesn't know. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential L

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-09 Thread Nils Philippsen
tag for staging the rebuilds. Any reason why the compat package ships the libpng-1.2.pc pkg-config file? This made one of my packages use 1.5 headers, then later on attempt to link to libpng12.so which failed. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purcha

Re: Upgrading libpng: shall we move to 1.4.x or 1.5.x?

2011-11-10 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 10:42 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > Nils Philippsen writes: > > On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 13:12 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > >> I plan to provide the 1.2.x libpng shared library (and only the library, > >> not its devel support files) in a libpng-compat subpack

Re: [Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 16.

2011-11-16 Thread Nils Philippsen
algorithm works it will avoid downloading unchanged > > packages and download changed packages in full, just like jigdo. In > > addition you don't have to download a jigdo template file. > > Hmm? How will rsync compose me a .iso out of a bunch of rpms? I take it that And

Re: Rethinking proventester and critpath

2011-11-22 Thread Nils Philippsen
possible before turning updates loose on the unsuspecting public. I just don't see how it can be done right at the moment. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty n

Re: Changing kernel API / Breaking VirtualBox - update criteria violation?

2011-11-22 Thread Nils Philippsen
broke dual head/xrandr[1] and WLAN[1] for me (on Intel hardware, FWIW). Nils [1]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=731296 [2]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=732592 -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a

Re: Rethinking proventester and critpath

2011-11-22 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 07:42 -0700, Ken Dreyer wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Nils Philippsen wrote: > > Hm. The list of (implicitly labeled) critpath packages seems to have > > proliferated recently > > Why not impose a self-restriction on the number of critpa

Re: epel 6 fedpkg build or koji scratch builds failing — I'm stumped

2011-11-25 Thread Nils Philippsen
ot;'; \ > echo '#define IP_BINARY "$(IP)"'; \ > } > $@-t && chmod a-w $@-t && mv $@-t $@ ... shouldn't a "mv -f ..." do the trick here? Non-destructiveness and all that. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Th

Heads-up: GIMP 2.7/2.8 in Rawhide, license change to (L)GPLv3+

2011-12-15 Thread Nils Philippsen
peak up ;-). Nils [1]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GIMP_2.8 -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty n...@redhat.com nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerpr

Re: Heads-up: GIMP 2.7/2.8 in Rawhide, license change to (L)GPLv3+

2011-12-30 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 13:40 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 12/16/2011 12:09 PM, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > > Quoting Nils Philippsen wrote: > > > >> > >> GREYCstoration: deebs > > > > > > GREYstoration[1]is dead and superseded by GMIC[2] awhile a

Re: Results of a test mass rebuild of rawhide/x86_64 with gcc-4.7.0-0.1.fc17

2012-01-02 Thread Nils Philippsen
2-1.fc16, so I'm ignoring those from any analysis. I've attached a list of packages and (co)maintainers, to easily find if one of your packages is affected or not. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Te

Re: UsrMove feature breaking "yum upgrade" upgrades from older releases to F17?

2012-01-26 Thread Nils Philippsen
ne after the upgrade (active services > after transition to systemd as example) and then you reboot > ONCE in a clean starting system instead a boot in the blue ... as can be done on VC2 after updating with anaconda. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liber

Re: UsrMove feature breaking "yum upgrade" upgrades from older releases to F17?

2012-01-26 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Thu, 2012-01-26 at 14:19 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 26.01.2012 14:08, schrieb Nils Philippsen: > > For the sake of completeness: > > > > On Thu, 2012-01-26 at 03:22 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> after a yum upgrade you can verify that the most impo

Re: UsrMove feature breaking "yum upgrade" upgrades from older releases to F17?

2012-01-27 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Thu, 2012-01-26 at 15:49 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 26.01.2012 15:07, schrieb Nils Philippsen: > > On Thu, 2012-01-26 at 14:19 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> > >> Am 26.01.2012 14:08, schrieb Nils Philippsen: > >>> For the sake of completenes

Re: UsrMove feature breaking "yum upgrade" upgrades from older releases to F17?

2012-01-27 Thread Nils Philippsen
upgrade" will be supported, but it needs a little help > > with a special initramfs and an additiona > > So why isn't it documented as such? It is, the feature page mentions the script, the tentative preparation steps on the yum upgrade page describe the details. Nils -- Nils

Re: UsrMove feature breaking "yum upgrade" upgrades from older releases to F17?

2012-01-27 Thread Nils Philippsen
mpat symlinks. But I don't think we want to wait for that. Agreed, it'd be a whole lot nicer if RPM could handle symlink <-> non-symlink transitions without crutches like this one, but right now it can't. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Li

Re: Fedora 17’s unified filesystem (/usr-move)

2012-01-27 Thread Nils Philippsen
e whole system, but only the parts affected by the move. Or so I'd like to believe ;-). Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty n...@redhat.com nor Safety.

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

2012-02-13 Thread Nils Philippsen
o be. But let's not kid ourselves into thinking that with a life-cycle of only 13 months and the amount of change we introduce in each new release (especially on the desktop) we're somehow catering to end users who don't have a technically skilled spouse, relative or friend in the backgro

Re: CGAL license change to (L)GPLv3+

2012-02-13 Thread Nils Philippsen
> QPL respectively). > > In the CGAL.spec file, I mentionned "License: LGPLv3+ and GPLv3+". Could not > I > simplify that into: "License: GPLv3+"? You should probably ask this question on the fedora-legal mailing list (on Cc). Nils -- Nils Philippsen &

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

2012-02-15 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 09:28 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 14:47 +0100, Nils Philippsen wrote: > > On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 11:08 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > Let me put it this way, then: Fedora is released on a six month cycle, > > > which is

Re: /usrmove? -> about the future

2012-02-17 Thread Nils Philippsen
t disable-completion on" into /etc/inputrc or ~/.inputr to disable it > across logout/reboots This disables normal non-programmable tab-completion for me. Also, if you want the (other) default settings, you need to "$include /etc/inputrc" on the first line of ~/.inputrc

inputrc, was: /usrmove? -> about the future

2012-02-18 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Fri, 2012-02-17 at 16:23 +, John5342 wrote: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 13:54, Nils Philippsen wrote: > > This disables normal non-programmable tab-completion for me. > > > > Also, if you want the (other) default settings, you need to > > "$include /e

Re: systemd system unit files and UsrMove

2012-02-20 Thread Nils Philippsen
rpm files, LSB > symlinks, Java files, Ruby files, yadda yadda yadda. Not that it matters much, but just before somebody gets the wrong ideas: pkg-config files are arch-dependent because of multilib. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase

Re: User session printing

2012-03-06 Thread Nils Philippsen
forgets about it. - User returns after the weekend, logs in again, cupsd picks up the still queued print job from user's home, starts printing the remaining 285 pages. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Tem

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-03-06 Thread Nils Philippsen
certain (sets of) configuration. Beyond that (and I'm not through the thread completely, so forgive me if that's been stated elsewhere already), I think it'd be worthwhile to think about usage profiles like this which come with a set of configuration defaults tailored to a particula

Re: what means is defined in DSO /lib64/libz.so.1

2012-03-06 Thread Nils Philippsen
n't link it directly (i.e. the "-lz" compiler option) but indirectly (i.e. links a library which uses libz). You need to explicitly link all libraries that you use, you may not depend on other libraries pulling these in. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up

Re: what means is defined in DSO /lib64/libz.so.1

2012-03-06 Thread Nils Philippsen
quot; and is more or less just another word for "shared library". > In the above case you need to additionally pass -lz to the linked (e.g. > using LDLAGS=-lz), as suggested by gcc (which says: is defined in) Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential L

Re: [Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines

2010-11-19 Thread Nils Philippsen
I guess that the %post part should use "gtk-query-immodules-..." instead of "gio-...". Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty n...@redhat.com nor

Re: systemd (Was Re: tmpfs for strategic directories)

2010-06-01 Thread Nils Philippsen
single thread. That is, if you really must use environment variables for passing that information... Others have mentioned it already: The environment is for information that is meant to be long-lived and shared between processes, it should be feasible to pass this information via a command

Re: systemd (Was Re: tmpfs for strategic directories)

2010-06-01 Thread Nils Philippsen
ong as > these are running none of their children can get the same PID. Daemons are known to occasionally go down unplanned and as I read it, systemd is intended to restart them in that case. While child processes could then be killed off via the cgroup to which they belong, this is not always d

Re: systemd (Was Re: tmpfs for strategic directories)

2010-06-01 Thread Nils Philippsen
ong as > these are running none of their children can get the same PID. Daemons are known to occasionally go down unplanned and as I read it, systemd is intended to restart them in that case. While child processes could then be killed off via the cgroup to which they belong, this is not always d

Re: Fedora rawhide FTBFS status 2010-05-27 x86_64

2010-06-02 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 12:43 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote: > nphilipp: gegl,gtkimageview,ufraw these all built fine as scratch, probably affected by the segfaulting pkgconfig -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little T

Re: webkitgtk abi bump

2010-07-05 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 10:36 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > gimp-help-browser rebuilt gimp -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty n...@redhat.com nor Safety."

Re: concept of package "ownership"

2010-07-05 Thread Nils Philippsen
d be (co-)maintainers, wouldn't they?). If we ever get group ACLs, I think we should have $SIG-packager groups, consisting of SIG members who fulfill the above, who get that kind of access. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat

Re: Licensing Guidelines Update - Please Read

2010-07-12 Thread Nils Philippsen
:}%{version}-%{release} ... %files %{?spkg:common} -f %{name}.lang %defattr(-, root, root, -) %doc COPYING README ... Did you check spec files or generated binary RPMs? I guess checking the latter would avoid most of the false positives. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essenti

Re: Non-responsive maintainer: Deji Akingunola (fas: deji)

2014-07-28 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Sat, 2014-07-26 at 11:17 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > The following packages are looking for a new point of contact on at > least one branch: > > babl > gegl I've taken these two. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase

Re: gcc5 C++11 ABI rebuilds and FTBFS packages

2015-05-12 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Mon, 2015-05-04 at 13:09 +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: > extremetuxracer: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=9650861 > jack-audio-connection-kit: > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=9651019 Fixed. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would giv

Re: Fedora 23 mass rebuild

2015-06-19 Thread Nils Philippsen
if you install executable JPEG files into your buildroot: find-debuginfo.sh runs the file command on all executable files, and file-5.22-3.fc23 contains a bug causing it to exit with a non-zero exit code on certain JPEG files, cf.: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1201630 Nils -- Nils Phil

Unexpected find of the week: Pagure & Dist Git Watch List

2020-06-15 Thread Nils Philippsen
Turns out that the "Pagure Watch List" was news to other people, too, so here are the links in case you missed the memo, too! ;) - Dist Git: https://src.fedoraproject.org/dashboard/watchlist - Pagure.io: https://pagure.io/dashboard/watchlist Ciao, Nils -- Nils Philippsen"Tho

Re: systemd: Can Type=simple be used with a wrapper script?

2012-04-16 Thread Nils Philippsen
ave to exec the real binary, i.e. the PID of your daemon mustn't change lest systemd thinks your daemon died. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty n...@redhat.com

Re: changelog in spec file, was Re: Stop the git abuse

2012-05-31 Thread Nils Philippsen
The changes relevant for end users are what you write when you submit an update to bodhi. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty n...@redhat.com nor Safety." --

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