s are easier to
work from.
IMHO this is a broken setup and local Fedora groups should take responsibility
for the default fonts to install in their locale but they never stepped up to
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need revamping now¹ to keep an attractive contributor experience), but
the actual list is not the same
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rust/C/whatever
would be faster".
And, actually, if you wanted to make builds faster, working with
upstreams to replace their makefiles with something more modern is
likely to give better results. GNU Make is known to be slow and to
consume an awful lot of shell bits.
Le 2019-03-26 12:29, Dridi Boukelmoune a écrit :
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 8:43 AM Nicolas Mailhot
wrote:
Le 2019-03-25 22:47, Japheth Cleaver a écrit :
> If you can take a one-time hit to
> remove bashisms and get a 25-40% improvement,
CPU time is cheap, packager time is not. Exchangi
introduced.
We (Fedora) were enthusiastic. As problematic as maven is, the
alternatives (osgi, manual classpaths in shell scripts) were much worse.
Which tells a lot about Java community values :(
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bet if you're writing *really* complex stuff there, you've probably
already moved that to a packaged script that's executed as part of the
scriptlet instead.)
Or you used macros. That will inject shell snippets right
+Java+module subset.
You want something faster than bash – write something faster than bash
with as expressive a syntax (and ideally the same syntax). Winning CPU
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POSIX is dead as a shell compatibility target. You want to replace
bash
with something faster, by all means do it. With something that
includes
the GNU extensions like pushd/popd that
an Java software, so whatever actually happens is up to
Fedora and Red Hat/IBM leadership. I certainly hope that someone within
Fedora instances alerted the main sponsor that things were starting to
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(either via packaging guidelines or via rpm macros). Very rigid systems
that assume things are exactly one way, without variation, tend to
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so produces binaries that
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there is no specific difference between a Go or a C binary from a
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at, udev settle… that's all lack or good proeminent systemd
documentation, that causes third party projects to kludge, and gave up
on things they do not understand.
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ne to review all the alternative rules and fix up all the warts
that crept in since Java 1.3 times (back in my day, once you got
alternatives to work for a new jdk, you tried very hard to forget the
experience). Certainly, all the standardizing on openjdk after SUN sank
should have simplified the mess a
invent a
better java alternative setup, but it will be a lot of work, with a lot
of constrains (one of those, being able to upgrade existing setups to
the new system gracefully)
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st ignore the 'at' command execution error due to 'exit 0' a few
> > lines below it.
>
> Just out of curiosity, why does a web browser need a daily chrome
> job?
Probably a check-for-updates or download white/black lists thing.
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ice if one of the official mock chain builder
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tion and it is very
convenient. You set the hypervisor to save vm state on shutdown, and
autorestart all the vms that were running next boot, and you don't need
to bother about the hybernation vs sleep vs shutdown nonsense anymore.
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ootstrapping logic
still works.
And even if it still works the whole process takes days/weeks
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* chain build bootstrapped builds normally
* chain build everything
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backbone starved of investments and resources.
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>
> %check
> # Record some build root versions in build.log
> uname -r; rpm -q glibc
Funny; that’s pretty much
https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/issues/607
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is also one of the main reasons people push for bundling exemptions
(manual review of unbundled packages does not scale). The current
process is actively working against its stated objectives.
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Manual whitelists will go stale fast
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would probably want to handle BR file deps
too to cut down on build farm processing times, that requires pointing
createrepo to the SRPM repo metadata.
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Le 2018-08-28 15:27, Adam Jackson a écrit :
On Tue, 2018-08-28 at 13:47 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Le 2018-08-07 17:33, Adam Jackson a écrit :
> Consider a library like libGL. At runtime, you want the drivers it
> might load to be installed. But when building an application, you just
dos to jchaloup who did a huge part of the
work).
But sure, I'll make a pass to check if it contains references to stuff
that turned out slightly differently than the initial plan
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(even without bootstrapping we should do the last D. part but I fear we
often forget it expect for specific package sets where the maintainer
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Le 2018-08-28 13:27, Neal Gompa a écrit :
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However, my initial objectives were to produce clean prometheus and
grafana Fedora packages, I finished the Go part a few months ago, but
they both include a javascript layer, so I'll pro
ort Go but *shrug* at this point I don't care, feel free to
write something better if you want. The Go code is small and trivial.
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> >
> > I have no idea if many people use that...
>
> I am betting it's just about zero, because it seems really unlikely
> that anyone wants *all* of the optional packages in a group.
Why not? Some of the group
th lots of janitorial involvement (both human and
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working on obsoleting SNI as it exists today in favour of an encrypted
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Le dimanche 23 septembre 2018 à 22:39 +0200, Florian Weimer a écrit :
> > On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 10:14 AM, Nicolas Mailhot
> >
> To be honest, this looks like a misconfiguration of the Google
> servers.
Actually, this is probably a "we can finally declare IE6 dead and use
They would regularly miss composes due to
broken deps.
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Le 2018-09-24 08:49, Florian Weimer a écrit :
* Nicolas Mailhot:
Le dimanche 23 septembre 2018 à 22:39 +0200, Florian Weimer a écrit :
In Google's case, there is only one server, imap.gmail.com:
<https://developers.google.com/gmail/imap/imap-smtp>
That's the public nam
with the complexity of tracking dependencies, let's look at it
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uages depend on it today
(Java is not the only one).
It is not sustainable to require packagers to manage bootstraping
manually, because koji has no knowledge of it.
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Le vendredi 28 septembre 2018 à 10:26 -0400, Stephen John Smoogen a
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> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 at 04:21, Nicolas Mailhot
> wrote:
> > Le vendredi 28 septembre 2018 à 10:09 +0200, Mikolaj Izdebski a
> > écrit :
> > > This is already not met for Fedora. Lets look at
st here as a
dep for something else).
Reagrds
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send the result to FPC and the Fonts SIG to switch existing
packaging guidelines
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Le dimanche 14 octobre 2018 à 18:13 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit :
> Le dimanche 14 octobre 2018 à 15:37 +0200, Fabio Valentini a écrit :
> > It looks like the forge macros weren't tested to be backwards
> > compatible, because packages that build successfully now fail
the new and better URLs that gitlab supports now.)
>
> But I've been trying to tell you this when the original forge macros
> were introduced, and that has led nowhere either.
>
> So, I'll probably just gradually move back to using the Source URLs
> for github/gitlab wh
derstand where you're coming from.
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. I officially suck at
updates. I'm reworking things to help me suck less. Also, I took the
opportunity to package some font families that should have been packaged
quite a long time ago (not necessarily by myself). All this will hit
rawhide and reviews once the macro work
pmbuild works in is a
side-effect of %setup (which %autoseup calls behin the scenes), there’s
no way to override or even read in it %prep, and *many* bits of rpm
automation will look for stuff in this directory only.
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PR35, that will add further changes, and has been
cooking quite a lot of time already. Though it will be mostly new
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Le vendredi 19 octobre 2018 à 11:48 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit :
> Le vendredi 19 octobre 2018 à 04:58 -0400, Jakub Cajka a écrit :
> > And what about backing up the breaking change in Rawhide? At least
> > until there is a backward compatible way of doing that(or it is
>
hy are we paying $$$ to RH again, I see you
spend your time rebuilding Fedora packages, can't you use Debian if the
EL part of RHEL is useless?”
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e something
else. Wouldn't change the probability upstream would give up on it as
soon as it was not shiny and cool anymore, but at least I and Fedora
would not totally depend on them for our data.
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Le vendredi 19 octobre 2018 à 07:54 -0700, Gerald B. Cox a écrit :
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:43 AM Nicolas Mailhot <
>
> You really should try it, you might like it. BTW, there are no ads in
> the Fedora Discourse instance, so
> not sure what you are talking about there.
clude default processing in the macro code Fedora ships is
wrong.
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Le lundi 22 octobre 2018 à 10:00 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit :
> Le lundi 22 octobre 2018 à 00:31 +0200, Robert-André Mauchin a écrit :
> > Yeah all "gosetup -q" (which is gofed default) are broken because of
> > your commit:
>
> Well I know no such a thing, th
Le lundi 22 octobre 2018 à 10:00 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit :
> Le lundi 22 octobre 2018 à 00:31 +0200, Robert-André Mauchin a écrit :
> > Yeah all "gosetup -q" (which is gofed default) are broken because of
> > your commit:
>
> Well I know no such a thing, th
place can be used to
sync the reviews, QA runs and Koji/copr mass rebuilds. Which is clearly
not the case today.
Call that purism if you like
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¹ That mostly depends on what FPC decides in
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aging, nor on
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Anyway, since no one answers when I list the possible fixes and ask to
choose between them, I fixed the Fedora spec files myself.
Feel free to reintroduce %gosetup calls if you really want them, once
the %gosetup implementation has been fixed.
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> On mardi 23 octobre 2018 22:43:16 CEST Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> > Anyway, since no one answers when I list the possible fixes and ask
> > to
> > choose between them, I fixed the Fedora spec files myself.
Le mercredi 24 octobre 2018 à 00:52 +0200, Robert-André Mauchin a
écrit :
> On mardi 23 octobre 2018 23:47:05 CEST you wrote:
> > On mardi 23 octobre 2018 22:43:16 CEST Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> > > Anyway, since no one answers when I list the possible fixes and
> > >
Le mercredi 24 octobre 2018 à 08:42 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit :
> Le mercredi 24 octobre 2018 à 00:52 +0200, Robert-André Mauchin a
> écrit :
> > On mardi 23 octobre 2018 23:47:05 CEST you wrote:
> > > On mardi 23 octobre 2018 22:43:16 CEST Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> &g
mass improving changelog entries is not in the
scope of
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Who_is_allowed_to_modify_which_packages
Fixing failing builds clearly was.
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ction).
I use Logitech wireless keyboards and mice with the bluetooth usb
dongle. Don't know if that's your case too.
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all going awry because the keyboard
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Le mardi 30 octobre 2018 à 11:47 +0530, Parag Nemade a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 9:14 PM Nicolas Mailhot <
> nicolas.mail...@laposte.net> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Just FYI, I intend to relicense fontpackages from LGPL3+ to GPL3+,
> >
= string.gsub(r, "[%p%s]+", "-")
r = string.gsub(r, "^-", "")
r = string.gsub(r, "-$", "")
r = string.lower(r)
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d directories such as libs and include.
Take a look at
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/nim/fontpackages-2/builds/
for an example on how to pass doc wildcards to generic automation
macros.
(currently polishing it and cross-pollinating with go macros)
was more or less my understanding too, but it’s nicer to ask.
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use the dos end of lines
in your file cause rpmspec to go bonkers
$ rpmspec -P luxcorerender.spec
'orgemeta: invalid option -- '
in forgemeta(az:sviu:)
error: line 13: %forgemeta -a
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forgeurl1 https://github.com/%{name}/BlendLuxCore
%global tag1blendluxcore_v%{version}%{?prerelease}
%forgemeta -a
[…]
Source0:%{forgesource0}
Source1:%{forgesource1}
[…]
%prep
%forgesetup -a
%patch0 -pX
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> On 2018-11-04 4:43 a.m., Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> > So, basically you should just need a do2unix and the following lines
> > in
> > rawhide:
>
> I have Fedora 29 installed and the above line
Le 2018-11-05 11:31, Jonathan Underwood a écrit :
On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 at 09:44, Nicolas Mailhot
wrote:
If someone wants to do this the font powerline uses should be fixed to
used correct unicode point values (and PUA when it include things not
standardised by unicode).
Otherwise powerline
es to see a flourishing of
module versions will hit the “no one’s interested in packaging and QA-
ing a miriad versions of the same software” wall.
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That would have a lot more effect on maintainer productivity. Not
coincidently, it started with an helper the java SIG wrote an no one
ever bothered to integrate infra-side
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Force any bundler dev to actually maintain all the code he ships, and I
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> https://github.com/silenc3r/fedora-better-fonts will be considered as
> defaults?
>
A lot of this are just individual font packages that just wait for
someone to pick up and maintain within Fedora. It does not depend on any
fontconfig change
Re
the files are pushed
upstream.
Of course for huge font families split over lots of files the rules can
get a lot more complex. There’s at most a handful of those in the
distro.
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legally encumbered. Since most of them can not imagine others may not
share their preferences they concluded it was not the default for legal
reasons. But that has never been the only (or principal) reason.
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about
doing serious photo/video work on them. You want a screen with high
scores everywhere you have to pay a pretty penny for it.
But, to pore on text all day round and forget about text rendering
artifacts they're prefect.
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nly Qt5 does (see
> screenshots above).
Nice work on QT’s part, congratulations to everyone who made this
happen. It’s been known for years gamma correction was needed for good
screen text rendering. I hope other GUI toolkits follow suit quickly.
Regards,
that just want to be rid of the deployment chore.
Regards,
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tive long-term upstream repo that could be imported and
completed in a Fedora-side fork. What happened is that the thing you
need to snapshot before starting the packaging has become a lot more
transient and mutating.
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Le vendredi 16 novembre 2018 à 11:37 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit :
> iable, and checking those in the installer)
>
> * that effectively means:
> * the only supported state is the current upgrade tip,
> * you have an N-era window where upgrades to the current tip are
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