On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 18:21:15 +
Christopher Brown wrote:
> 2010/1/10 Kevin Fenzi :
> > Here's another (more accurate/correct) run of the sources file
> > checker. Thats against a 2010-01-06 cvs checkout seed.
>
> > snecker:BADURL:jokoshe
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 18:42:41 +
Christopher Brown wrote:
> Which I have done for jokosher unless this means I have to drop the
> bzr suffix?
You have:
Source0: http://www.%{name}.org/downloads/source/%{name}-20091128bzr.tar.gz
That URL is 404. There is no file with that URI.
You should h
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:11:29 +0200
Jussi Lehtola wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-01-10 at 00:06 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > jussilehtola:BADSOURCE:agedu-r8768.tar.gz:agedu
>
> The upstream agedu tarball is generated nightly, so the md5sum changes
> the whole time. Should I take ou
I'm forwarding this for David Anderson:
From: David Anderson
To: fedora-devel-l...@redhat.com
Subject: Orphaning curlftpfs , mod_auth_shadow
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 11:22:25 +
User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (Linux/2.6.31.6-166.fc12.x86_64; KDE/4.3.4; x86_64; ;)
Greetings,
Due to a slow African In
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 12:44:46 +
Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 15:53 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> > If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to
> > this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco,
> > e-mail
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:29:40 -0500
Peter Jones wrote:
> On 01/10/2010 02:06 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > pjones:BADURL:dumpet-2.0.tar.bz2:dumpet
>
> Should be fixed now (forgot to push the tarball to hosted)
ok.
> > pjones:BADURL:syslinux-3.83.tar.bz2:syslinux
>
&g
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:43:32 +
Mat Booth wrote:
> This is a bit suspicious:
>
> 2010/1/10 Kevin Fenzi :
> >
> > orphan:BADURL:xerces-c-src_2_8_0.tar.gz:xqilla
> > orphan:BADURL:xerces-c-src_2_8_0.tar.gz:xqilla10
> >
>
> Why is it necessary for xquill
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 06:50:16 + (UTC)
"Justin M. Forbes" wrote:
> Author: jforbes
>
> Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/seabios/F-12
> In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv15649
>
> Added Files:
> seabios-0.5.1-669c991.tar.gz seabios.spec
> Log Message:
> Created initial packag
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:01:54 +0100
Laurent Rineau wrote:
> Le dimanche 10 janvier 2010 08:06:11, Kevin Fenzi a écrit :
> > rineau:BADSOURCE:figtoipe-20080505.tar.gz:figtoipe
> > rineau:BADSOURCE:ipe-6.0pre32patch1-src.tar.gz:ipe
>
> Does the change of URLs of Source0 worths
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting tomorrow at 17:00UTC (noon EST) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.
Followups:
#298 Revoke Paul Johnsons pacakger access and put him on probation.
#291 Man pages Packaging Guideline
New business:
Finalize new meeti
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 23:26:39 + (UTC)
Zing wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:37:20 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> > Because it won't be on the live media that many of the install
> > from, or the default groups that would be choosen from the dvd
> > install.
>
Here's the logs from todays meeting.
Sorry for the delay in posting it. ;(
NOTE that we will be meeting on tuedays at 20:00 UTC moving forward.
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-15/fesco.2010-01-15-17.00.html
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-15/fesc
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:58:54 +0100
Till Maas wrote:
> But what about the other packages by these maintainers that do not
> fail to build but are probably as unmaintained as the packages that
> fail to build?
There may be some cases of that. If so, the non responsive maintainer
procedure should b
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:39:54 +0100
Till Maas wrote:
> > Indeed. I don't see much activity from them.
> > Have you tried sending them an email?
> > If not, I can.
>
> No, please go ahead.
I took the liberty right after I posted.
(Hopefully Ian doesn't mind me passing this along:)
Ian Burre
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:08:30 +0100
Hans de Goede wrote:
> I don't see who the orphaning without following proper procedure is
> appropriate at all. Simply blocking the ones which FTBFS bugs were not
> fixed from F-13 inclusion would have been the appropriate response
> (as documented in our proce
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:13:32 +0100
Michael Schwendt wrote:
> It's a more fundamental problem, though. The AWOL-process is for
> people, not for packages. The people may still be active (and even
> known to be active somewhere) and not AWOL, but the packages which
> are assigned to them would stil
Greetings.
I'd like to find some folks interested in co-maintaining or just fully
maintaining gpsdrive. It's a nifty gps app that lets you download maps
and follow progress and publish your location.
This package requires a good bit of work, and I just haven't had the
time to sit down and poke
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting tomorrow at 20:00UTC (3pm EST) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.
Followups:
#298 Revoke Paul Johnsons pacakger access and put him on probation.
#291 Man pages Packaging Guideline
#302 libssh2 - non-responsive maint
Here's the summary/minutes from todays meeting:
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-19/fesco.2010-01-19-20.00.html
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-19/fesco.2010-01-19-20.00.txt
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproj
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:18:33 +0100
Thomas Moschny wrote:
> 2010/1/10 Kevin Fenzi :
> > thm:BADSOURCE:httperf-0.9.0.tar.gz:httperf
>
> Project URLs changed. Fixed in CVS, not rebuilt.
>
> (But why was this BADSOURCE? Checked, and both tar files at old url
> ftp://ft
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:48:25 +0100
Till Maas wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 10:39:50AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:39:54 +0100
> > Till Maas wrote:
> >
> > > > Indeed. I don't see much activity from them.
> > > > Hav
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:52:12 +0100
Till Maas wrote:
> The list of packages you announced that are going to be orphaned and
> the list of packages that were orphaned are not the same.
> recordmydesktop was on the to-be-orphaned list but afaics was not
> orphaned and also was not mentioned in your
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:34:50 +0100
Till Maas wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 02:24:39PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> > init process (nirik, 20:00:35)
> > FOLLOWUP: #298 Revoke Paul Johnsons pacakger access and put him on
> > probation. (nirik, 20:02:44) #3
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting tomorrow at 20:00UTC (3pm EST) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.
Followups:
#308 package-swift
New business:
#314 Wordpress bundles libraries
#315 Feature: boot.fedoraproject.org (
https://fedoraproject.org/wik
One more feature for tomorrow's meeting:
#323 Feature: Dynamic Firewall (
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DynamicFirewall )
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Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-26/fesco.2010-01-26-20.01.html
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-26/fesco.2010-01-26-20.01.txt
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-01-26/fesco.2010-01-26
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 11:50:44 +0100
Till Maas wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Paul Wouters seems to be non-repsonsive for socat, there a two bugs
> open with no response within 6 months:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511310
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513720
>
> He has been pi
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:43:40 +0100
Till Maas wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 02:42:58PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:52:12 +0100
> > Till Maas wrote:
> >
> > > The list of packages you announced that are going to be orphaned
> >
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 13:38:13 -0500
Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:13:06PM -0500, Jarod Wilson wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Jarod Wilson
> > wrote:
> > >> I have no idea if it actually requires them to be alongside the
> > >> executables, but hopefully the link
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting tomorrow at 20:00UTC (3pm EST) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.
Followups:
#314 Wordpress bundles libraries
#324 naming conflict: surf
#320 Feature: Modprobe whitelist (
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Mo
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-02-02)
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Meeting started by nirik at 20:01:34 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-02-02/fesco.2010-02-02-20.01.log.html
Meeting summary
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On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 11:27:00 +0100
James Findley wrote:
>
> Really? So imagine this scenario.
>
> Packager foo has two packages, bar and baz.
> bar is a package much like ed, which needs very little attention, and
> goes for a year without anything needing doing to it, no koji
> activity happ
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-08-03)
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Meeting started by nirik at 19:30:02 UTC. The full logs are available at
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On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 22:03:14 +0200
Till Maas wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 09:42:01AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > I suspect it might short-circuit the 'ahhh, but what about...'
> > 'oooh, but then I can...' nature of the conversation if you just
> > put together a proof-of-concept att
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:13:00 -0400
James Laska wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 10:57 -0400, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
> > On 08/06/2010 10:16 AM, James Laska wrote:
> > > 620211 :: NEW :: python-psyco :: kon...@tylerc.org ::
> > > python-psyco needs porting to python 2.7 in F14 and devel ::
> > >
On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 16:45:39 +0200
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
...snip...
> If you're interested in - please reply,
> I'd like to start Wiki page and we can talked about more details
> etc.
I'm an interested webkitgtk user. ;)
I'm not sure how much time I have to help, but I'm happy to
update/apply
On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 20:24:42 +0100
David Woodhouse wrote:
> How long should it take for these to get pushed?
>
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openconnect-2.25-1.fc12
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/openconnect-2.25-1.fc13
The security queue seems to have been plugged up. ;(
On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 21:03:57 +0100
David Woodhouse wrote:
>
> Thanks.
>
> On a separate topic, any idea why exim-4.72.fc14 isn't showing up in
> the repository? It was built on June 3rd:
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=176510
You need to submit an update for it. ;)
f14
On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 22:22:10 +0200
Sven Lankes wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 07, 2010 at 02:20:07PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> >> On a separate topic, any idea why exim-4.72.fc14 isn't showing up
> >> in the repository? It was built on June 3rd:
> >> http:/
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.
= Followups =
#topic #351 Create a policy for updates - status report on implementation
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/351
#topic #382 Imp
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 17:12:20 -0400
Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> Hello, could you provide a more detailed status of the above 2 topics
> after the next meeting?
> The following report was from last week and it is not very
> informative:
...snip...
> There has been a very long debate here in this mailing
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-08-10)
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Meeting started by nirik at 19:30:15 UTC. The full logs are available at
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 00:31:58 +0200
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> I think that this is really going to break our workflow!
I think it's going to help our workflow and provide our users with more
stable updates. Time will tell.
> For example, for the Fedora 14 under development, we now have to wait
> a
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:39:59 -0400
Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> I'm negative towards this change and not part of the KDE SIG but don't
> really like to clutter up the mailing lists with a bunch of negative
> energy. And I don't like the way it makes me feel about Fedora to
> continually try to get a
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 23:17:39 +0200
Sven Lankes wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 07:21:50PM +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
>
> > I wonder why I get the impression that the only ones who strongly
> > oppose this change are you folks from KDE SIG... Are you doing
> > things differently from anyone el
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 22:07:47 +0800
"Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) of Singapore"
wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> May I know whether the upcoming F14 release will include support for
> Xen pv-ops Dom0 kernel?
>
> Thank you very much.
No, I don't think so.
There is an experemental dom0 kernel available
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.
= Followups =
#topic #351 Create a policy for updates - status report on implementation
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/351
#topic #382 Imp
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-08-17)
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 00:46:43 +0400
Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote:
> Hi all,,
>
> before two weeks, a discussion started in ambassadors mailing-list
> about a work around to deliver the important notifications to the
> fedora desktop (whatever the desktop is).
> after some discussion, we started with
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:56:02 +0200
Martin Sourada wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 23:03 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote:
> > Hi, all.
> >
> > As the primary maintainer of Fedora's WebKitGTK+ stack, allow me
> > first to apologize for my lack of diligence here. Let me simply say
> > that I know now tha
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.
= Followups =
#topic #351 Create a policy for updates - status report on implementation
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/351
#topic #382 Imp
Not answering Mike directly here, but the thread in general...
IMHO, it's too early to have this discussion.
Alpha has not even been released...
Instead, before:
2010-09-14 Beta Change Deadline
Features 100% Complete
We should look at the state of things and decide if we should revert
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-08-24)
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Meeting started by nirik at 19:30:01 UTC. The full logs are available at
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:32:42 -0400
Jeff Garzik wrote:
> On 08/24/2010 08:01 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Bill Nottingham wrote:
> >> Having to support multiple boot paths for the system, making
> >> everyone who gets odd bugs filed against kernel, dracut, plymouth,
> >> etc. triage them isn't exac
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:59 +0200
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Adam Jackson wrote:
> > Static configuration should be something you can do from the dynamic
> > configuration tool. gnome-display-properties should have a "set as
> > default" button.
>
> Uh…
> 1. Not everyone uses GNOME.
Very true. I woul
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:52:30 -0400
Jon Masters wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 18:39 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> > On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 15:23 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> >
> > > >Again, I feel it is necessary to have a survey of Fedora users.
> > > >Preferably annually. And listen to the feedb
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 10:38:29 +0100
Piscium wrote:
...snip...
> In a nutshell: IMO Fedora is fine, except that it should come up with
> a better logo, typeface and colours, something with an edge!
Please do join in the design team and help them out:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_Desig
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 15:07:51 -0500
Manuel Escudero wrote:
> 2010/8/29 Mike McGrath
...snip...
> > We have a free software policy, while we continue to revise it,
> > google's search engine is clearly against that policy:
> >
> >
> > http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/csi/free-software-pol
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 16:04:40 -0400
Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:36:42PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > We had a distro that was pretty general purpose, worked for servers
> > and desktops and even laptops. We had a predictable schedule. We
> > had new technology thanks to r
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.
= Followups =
#topic #351 Create a policy for updates - status report on implementation
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/351
#topic #382 Imp
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-08-31)
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Meeting started by nirik at 19:30:01 UTC. The full logs are available at
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On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:09:55 +0200
Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote:
> Excerpts from Stanislav Ochotnicky's message of Mon Aug 30 16:17:40
> +0200 2010:
> > I'll be starting Java SIG wiki page soon, plus I guess we can peruse
> > java-devel mailing list for SIG discussions.
>
> In case you missed Alex
On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 12:18:26 +0300 (EEST)
Juha Tuomala wrote:
>
>
>
> Has it been disabled recently?
Short answer: Yes. It has.
Longer answer:
FESCo looked at trying to use voting data to give us an idea on 'hot'
bugs that we might be able to send more resources to fix. Sadly, voting
isn't
On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 08:59:21 +0300
Nicu Buculei wrote:
> On 09/02/2010 03:07 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> >
> > On 09/01/2010 07:59 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
> >>
> >> So? Is there any way to use youtube on Fedora?
> >
> > Well, the version of Mozilla Firefox in Fedora 14 should support
> >
On Sat, 4 Sep 2010 17:13:11 +0100
"Richard W.M. Jones" wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 03:14:12PM +, Branched Report wrote:
> > 1:libguestfs-1.5.5-1.fc14.i686 requires febootstrap >= 0:2.8
> > 1:libguestfs-1.5.5-1.fc14.x86_64 requires febootstrap >=
> > 0:2.8
>
> Yup, this is a cock
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.
= Followups =
#topic #351 Create a policy for updates - status report on implementation
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/351
#topic #382 Imp
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-09-07)
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Meeting summary
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Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.
= Followups =
#topic #351 Create a policy for updates - status report on implementation
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/351
#topic #382 Imp
One more I would like to add:
#464 Fix nss update issues
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/464
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 01:05:34 +0200
Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 14.09.10 16:01, Kevin Fenzi (ke...@scrye.com) wrote:
>
> > * #461 F14 blessing for systemd (nirik, 20:12:29)
> > * LINK:
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_initialization_basic and
>
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:48:13 -0400
Máirín Duffy wrote:
> Hi FESCo members,
...snip...
> Only 5 of the 9 FESCo members voted on this issue. If all 9 had voted,
> even with the current 3 for / 2 against vote, systemd could easily
> have enough votes for inclusion in F14. I have a couple of questi
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.
= Followups =
#topic #351 Create a policy for updates - status report on implementation
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/351
#topic #382 Imp
Sorry, two more from last week we didn't get to:
#469 App install related issues
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/469
#470 Look at buildid repo request from jkratoch
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/470
These will be covered before new business this week.
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:06:09 -0700
Eric Smith wrote:
> A bug was filed against meshlab because of an FTBFS for Fedora 14. I
> added a patch to resolve it and submitted an update. After seven
> days with no feedback, I was able to push it to stable.
Were there reports of the existing build cau
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-09-21)
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Meeting started by nirik at 19:30:01 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Greetings.
I'd like to ask for feedback and helping cleaning up an updates policy
draft page:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Updates_Policy_Draft
How can we clarify the language or the layout of the page to be more
clear? Are there places that it could be more like the existing pack
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:09:32 -0500
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 15:47:04 -0600,
> Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > Greetings.
> >
> > I'd like to ask for feedback and helping cleaning up an updates
> > policy draft page:
>
> Do you want
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:49:13 -0700
Eric Smith wrote:
> Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > Were there reports of the existing build causing problems?
>
> I don't think there was any prior F14 build of meshlab. I got email
> for the FTBFS bug.
Yeah, there was a 1
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:14:47 +0100
Alex Hudson wrote:
> Hey Kevin,
>
> On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 15:47 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > How can we clarify the language or the layout of the page to be more
> > clear? Are there places that it could be more like the existing
> >
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:05:42 -0500
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:35:01 +0200,
> Tomas Mraz wrote:
> >
> > - Avoid changing the user experence if at all possible. - this is
> > too strong condition. In some cases fixing a bug might inevitable
> > change the user experienc
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:12:54 -0500
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 18:58:25 +0200,
> drago01 wrote:
> >
> > In case of a security issue a random note somewhere "don't do that"
> > is not acceptable ... that's all I am saying here.
> > You are leaving users at risk by assuming
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:06:42 -0400
Josh Boyer wrote:
>
> You've obviously spent a lot of time thinking about the exceptions. I
> think that is good. I would, however, suggest you also include
> examples of changes/updates that are not applicable for a stable
> release.
Good idea.
Add some t
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:09:32 -0500
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 15:47:04 -0600,
> Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > Greetings.
> >
> > I'd like to ask for feedback and helping cleaning up an updates
> > policy draft page:
>
> Do you want
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:37:44 -0400
Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> For (unreleased) F14, I think that the arugment that future work on
> the package is better off starting with something that works than to
> start off with something that's broken by new gcc, boost, etc is very
> valid.
Sure. I would su
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:42:14 -0500
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:35:38 -0600,
> Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > So, that would be, BAD:
> >
> > - Changing User interface (moving menu items or buttons around)
> > - Changing names of commands for
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:45:55 -0500
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:35:55 -0600,
> Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:09:32 -0500
> > Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 15:47:04 -0600,
> > &g
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:39:00 -0400
Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> The problem is that we'd want to know what the ramifications of the
> update are to the release. What if the fix for the FTBFS causes an
> ABI break... but it's also the only way to fix the FTBFS within our
> manpower needs? Better to d
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:14:45 +0100
Alex Hudson wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 12:35 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > Alex Hudson wrote:
> > > I think there's one thing missing: some discussion about the
> > > guiding principles about where these rules came from.
&g
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:21:33 +0200
Till Maas wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 03:47:04PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> > I'd like to ask for feedback and helping cleaning up an updates
> > policy draft page:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevi
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:58:39 +0200
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> Not a very latest thing but more like - more useful thing. Because
> some useful "user experience" changes could lead to better user
> experience even changing slightly the old one. It's not easy to catch
> this in policy. I like the ide
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:53:49 -0400
Brandon Lozza wrote:
> It would be nice to list it somewhere as an exception, to avoid
> panics :)
Well, I personally do not want to say:
"Hey, anytime you like down the road, you get an exception to push a
new major version. Have fun".
We still need to see
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 13:30:31 -0400
"Horst H. von Brand" wrote:
> Horst H. von Brand wrote:
> > As of yesterday there simply is no way to get WiFi (iwlagn here) to
> > work. Restarting NetworkManager, avahi-daemon, udevd, dbus has no
> > effect. Restrarting nm-applet does nothing, no response to
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:26:46 -0400
Brandon Lozza wrote:
> I can't tell people Fedora is the best if it's not carrying the latest
> upstream KDE, its just not possible. I'm constantly recruiting new
> users. I'm in regular contact with the team of people who run
> Techrights.
I would personally s
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:19:51 +0200
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>
> It's not "some random day" - it's when you actually accept an update!
> It's not easy to estimate impact of update - but banning completely
> is not a solution neither.
Well, most people either:
a) apply all updates as they come and
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.
= Followups =
#topic Updates policy
#351 Create a policy for updates - status report on implementation
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/351
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:26:09 -0400
Kyle McMartin wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 02:32:03PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
> > meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
> > irc.freenode
===
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-09-28)
===
Meeting started by nirik at 19:30:01 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-09-28/fesco.2010-09-28-19.30.log.html
Meeting summary
-
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 09:17:23 +0200
Dodji Seketeli wrote:
> Brandon Lozza writes:
>
> [...]
>
> >
> > Most of us KDE users want deliberate visible changes to the user.
> > That's the point in having the latest version.
>
> Sorry if this has been already answered before, but what about having
>
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:45:11 +0200
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>
> Ok - that's one problem - we sucks in selective updates and
> information for users.
>
> Other could be - change release scheme:
> 1. very similar to current one - rawhide, Fn, Fn-1
> * rawhide - really raw development platform
> * Fn
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