ither, but connecting at home with DHCP does work.
GDM crashed on boot yesterday, luckily I've got XDM (and XFCE) installed
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Horst H. von Brand wrote:
> As of yesterday there simply is no way to get WiFi (iwlagn here) to
> work. Restarting NetworkManager, avahi-daemon, udevd, dbus has no
> effect. Restrarting nm-applet does nothing, no response to iwconfig ow iw.
>
> The configuration for the wired
n
the above is mostly install/running/updating for "final users")?
BTW, I've seen several times that updating the server makes a running
instance non-responsive, but been too lazy to report it.
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rawhide is
just a bag of untested packages, and thus useless.
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e
paper.
cups-1.4.8-2.fc15.x86_64
ghostscript-9.04-3.fc15.x86_64
hplip-3.11.7-2.fc15.x86_64
I'm at a loss on how to debug this further.
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Horst H. von Brand wrote:
> I'm running Fedora 15 on x86_64, up to date, with JNovy's TeXlive (but that
> one doesn't seem to be at fault).
>
> Printing PDFs created by pdflatex (even oldish ones) on a HP LaserJet
> m1522nf MFP over the 'net gives me pag
this done without everyone's hard work and
> assistance.
Congratulations all!
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he case.
> We install LVM and iSCSI and all kinds of other enterprisey stuff
> on even the smallest netbook. [...]
This is a great writeup. Why don't you add it to your "systemd for
sysadmins" series? And/or some page on boot speedup in the Fedora wiki?
Thanks for the pointers!
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and as long as installation DVDs are distributed, it should be considered
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minutes of work. The potential benefit is unknown, but
> certainly not zero.
Nodz.
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be handled automagically by my machine here.
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uo CPU t5...@1.80ghz, stepping 13.
I tried my older kernels (kernel-2.6.36-2.fc15.x86_64,
kernel-2.6.36-4.fc15.x86_64, kernel-2.6.36-5.fc15.x86_64 here) and
downgraded gnome-settings daemon (only thing that looked remotely relevant
in the updates), no changes.
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: could not log boot: Address already in use
on tty.
Only out of the ordinary configuration I can think of is that /usr is a
separate partition (really LVM2 volume).
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Petr Sabata wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 09:53:21AM -0300, Horst H. von Brand wrote:
> > After yesterday's updates, on login to Gnome a error message shows up
> > saying that "CPU Frequency scaling is unsupported", and claims either
> > misconfiguration
ome panels,
etc) did show up.
Went to alt-ctrl-F2, logged into root and did:
telinit 3
telinit 5
No X did show up. Rebooted by ctrl-alt-del, and tried with plain Gnome. No
dice either. Rebooted again, now running XFCE4.
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of ssh is somewhat far away).
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You should look at <http://fonts.fedoraproject.org>, where the Fedora font
buffs hang out.
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ely isn't
"normal-user" stuff (yes, I know that /sbin and /usr/sbin are on the
default $PATH now, but still).
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get back if the result explodes in my face?
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ly isn't for
ps(1)'s output.
> Computer-parsable stuff should be neither.
It must be easily readable anyway! Best part is that if done right, you
don't get to maintain several programs ;-)
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to tickle the system so it spits out awk(1)-able logs and stuff.
> But anyway, I give up. If you keep looking long enough you'll find
> something you don't like in everything.
Please don't. I'll find something I don't like everywhere (some tell me I'm
way too good
ng to shoehorn everything into rc.local or some
such. It took a while, afterwards I didn't want to look back. It's called
"education", and it doesn't come cheap.
> This should probably say "systemd for F16"
To me Fedora is about trying out new stuff, so I&#x
you yourself invented, and that's a backwards way to
> > do development :-/
> Jeez. Sometimes before complaining that other people didn't do their
> homework maybe you should do your own. Google isn't that hard to
> use. Reading up on Wikipedia either.
Please show
But eventually we stuck with --realize. It's not
> great, yes. But we couldnt think of anything better. Happy to take
> suggestions. But no, --take-effect-immediately is not really an option.
What do other commands use for "do it now" (instead of "later&quo
SB though
> with some minimal changes, and we also understand the unmodified LSB and
> RH names for compat.
> "systemctl disable --now" removes the unit file symlinks from
> /etc/systemd/system, terminates the unit before this and reloads the
> init system configurat
> - IT has JOB column (which is always empty, in observation)
>
> Well, its empty if there's nothing started or being stooped right now,
> or is waiting for some dependencies to start/stop. It will be empty if
> your systemd started up completely, because there is nothing to do
as replaced by a broken version which crashes
on startup? Or gets into a loop (or just does something very timeconsuming
sometimes) before being ready to answer? This _needs_ answers.
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Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Thu, 22.07.10 16:36, Horst H. von Brand (vonbr...@inf.utfsm.cl) wrote:
> > Lennart Poettering wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Well, I think good UI means that you distuingish computer parsable and
> > > human read
s they
> get more confident in the new configuration format.
Compatibility with native SysVinit-style upstart is of very little help if
the relevant commands (at least the most used options) aren't
available. E.g. when the big switchover from ipchains to iptables was in
swing, you could (al
ges without sysvinit
> scripts will have to deal with writing their own init scripts.
I'd suggest keeping them around until RHEL ships with native systemd + 1
Fedora cycle.
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ewly created GLX context
Seems something took out Gnome... but several other Gnome games (mahjongg
from gnome-games-extra-2.31.4-1.fc14.x86_64, sol from
gnome-games-2.31.4-1.fc14.x86_64) work fine. gnome-terminal also works.
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Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Thu, 22.07.10 21:30, Horst H. von Brand (vonbr...@inf.utfsm.cl) wrote:
> > Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > On Thu, 22.07.10 15:19, Simo Sorce (sso...@redhat.com) wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> > Sorry, but what if the configuration
Horst H. von Brand wrote:
> Let's go off into a tangent:
>
> Just booted my x86_64 rawhide box (up to date) into systemd. SELinux is
> enforcing.
Boot worked, but the machine got stuck on shudown. Had to power off. Thanks
$DEITY for journalling filesystems...
I saw comments
onflicts with systemd (or perhaps among
*-sysvinit).
In none of my two machines do {systemd,upstart}-sysvinit get
installed/updated, due to conflicts.
Will need freshen up on broken-rawhide-fu before rebooting.
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f the many processors
> systems are starting to get.
Automatic paralelization is still a just a glint in researcher's eyes, some
50 years later...
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es via symlinks.
Can't be installed. yum wants to install _both_ *-sysvinit (even on freshly
installed machines: F13 --> rawhide), they conflict, and thus systemd isn't
updated at all.
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application from the default desktop environment. The web browser must
> be able to download files, load extensions, and log into FAS
For that, it must be able to boot with the default configuration... which
currently just isn't the case.
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more waiting for all architectures to complete, only the
> fastest need complete)
> * fair treatment of all architectures (ARM will be happy because they won't
> be a second-class citizen anymore)
>
> Drawbacks:
Nobody will _run_ that, so no testing other that
aff_t) seems like it would get us most of the
> way to option 4 without breaking existing user expectations. What am I
> missing that makes this infeasible?
That would leave just "Hello, world!" style programs (as long as they
aren't in some way localized, like the GNU versio
That is just irresponsible. BTW, there are too few rawhide consumers as
things stand; this would make rawhide be russian roulette, but with 5
bullets instead of 1.
> "If it compiles, ship it!" â Linus Torvalds
Riiight... one tongue-in-cheek comment by the well-known punster
hy not? I can't think of a SUID binary written in e.g. FORTRAN, but that
is probably just lack of imagination...
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ording, but it should make the same thing obvious:
>
> """
> If your package meets any of the following criteria you MUST enable the PIE
> compiler flags:
> """
Very much better than the suggestion, IMHO.
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t;only" to the sentence then, like:
>
> * Your package runs only as root.
Nope. A program running as SGID games (or any other "different than the
user starting it" or "needs any special privileges") should be included
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Please go with (3), keeping generated files in git is just dumb.
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Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
> "Horst H. von Brand" writes:
> > [...]
> > Please go with (3), keeping generated files in git is just dumb.
>
> Please don't demean those who do it for well-considered reasons.
I'm sorry if it came through too abrasive,
fficial maintainer, he would apply to official review and
> the package would get into official Fedora repo.
There are several personal repos around, this is sort of what you
propose.
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