Re: How about firefox 3.6 in Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-30 Thread Frank Murphy
On 30/01/10 08:42, Liu Yu Fei Eric wrote: > So it doesn't have an official one? > Not in F12, but as has been said. You can update to 3.6 from Rawhide, then disable rawhide again. Which is what I have done, no problems yet. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded -- devel mailing

Re: How about firefox 3.6 in Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-31 Thread Frank Murphy
rawhide to > update it. > >--snipped-- True, but if necessary. You can always yum downgrade x Especially if you just need to check out package x. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-04 Thread Frank Murphy
Virt-Manager Guests: F14, F15. I was running rawhide since 1 or 2 mths Before F14-Branch. "systemctl enable graphical.target" this it said we was already linked. But If, I don't put init=/sbin/upstart on the kernel, every second thing is a fail or a whinge. Some errors don't

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-04 Thread Frank Murphy
fc14,systemd-5-2.fc14?_csrf_token=ed15fe0617ae3d06dc5b861a4374ac3d0908e09e > Hasn't really helped in this situation. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-04 Thread Frank Murphy
http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-040810-185927.php http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-040810-190109.php The full start up video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO8OAr7bzl8 -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-05 Thread Frank Murphy
md and systemd unit. > > reboot and allow selinux to relable the filesystem and voila > ( at least that works for me ) > > JBG Tried this, no go for me. Completly borked the system. even init-/sbin/upstart won't boot afterwards. I'll do a fresh F13 > F14-Br -- Rega

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org

2010-08-05 Thread Frank Murphy
On 05/08/10 17:02, Patrick MONNERAT wrote: > Thanks in advance for any hint. > > Patrick > send an email to: ad...@fedoraproject.org Subject: BFO The right people will get back to you. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailin

abrt thoughts pre-rfe q?

2010-08-07 Thread Frank Murphy
7;s just being added automatically. Would it be any benefit to the maintainers\bugzappers. If abrt opened the existing link, before it would report? So there wouldn't need be be so many replies of please try xyz?, to help cut down on noise. I could be talking out of my ear. Just a thought. -

Re: abrt thoughts pre-rfe q?

2010-08-08 Thread Frank Murphy
oduce. I have never seen > someone repost the same workaround in response to such a comment. > By that I mean the maintainer\Co-Maintainer\Good Citizen retelling the same fix\workaround posted earlier in the bug. To either enable\updates-testing or do xyz. Because the bug report hasn't bee

Re: abrt thoughts pre-rfe q?

2010-08-08 Thread Frank Murphy
added to" person. > > As I said, I have never seen that happen. Do you have an example? > I do it constantly, on such, as the older version after workarounds would perhaps suggest, newer versions are not being attempted. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=559484 -- Regar

Re: abrt thoughts pre-rfe q?

2010-08-08 Thread Frank Murphy
On 08/08/10 20:19, Matt McCutchen wrote: > > My advice: stop doing that. Taken -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org

2010-08-10 Thread Frank Murphy
confidential to a small group. > I plead innocent! Scroll to bottom http://boot.fedoraproject.org/faq -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: feature freeze?

2010-08-10 Thread Frank Murphy
ly complaining to someone that gave you $5 that > he did not give you $10? No, I think more like someone who could have given him 10, gave him 5, with a promise of another 5, if he paid 10. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproje

Re: feature freeze?

2010-08-10 Thread Frank Murphy
even if received freely. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Frank Murphy
same broken updates to F15(Rawhide) -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha RC3 Available Now!

2010-08-11 Thread Frank Murphy
s, it's using the litte grey matter left, along with saving some blaas. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F14/F13 - system-config-display - should it work?

2010-08-12 Thread Frank Murphy
On 12/08/10 15:11, Felix Miata wrote: > I updated system yesterday, installed scd just now: > > [init 3]# system-config-display Has it not been replaced by xrandr for display porpoises? -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedorapr

Re: The slip down memory lane

2010-08-12 Thread Frank Murphy
both hard\virtual-ware. Which could be inverted as it shows an increase in the continued interest in the development of Fedora. If it just dates is the worry, start testing for seven instead of six. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.

Re: The slip down memory lane

2010-08-12 Thread Frank Murphy
both hard\virtual-ware. Which could be inverted as it shows an increase in the continued interest in the development of Fedora. If it just dates is the worry, start testing for seven instead of six. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.

Re: drop default MTA for Fedora 15

2010-08-26 Thread Frank Murphy
ow of another method as of yet, to get all my logs to a central pop.email account (my isp) -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Starting Java SIG

2010-08-30 Thread Frank Murphy
va apps like Azureus((Vuze), Eclipse and any depends. Currently cannot package anything. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: fedora mission (was Re: systemd and changes)

2010-09-01 Thread Frank Murphy
On 01/09/10 19:53, Brendan Jones wrote: > What is the end game here? Is Fedora lacking contributors? Like all areas of life, you win some you lose some. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.

Re: Koji crashes Chromium [was Rawhide Koji borked??]

2010-09-05 Thread Frank Murphy
On 05/09/10 13:53, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > > > Chrome 7.0.514.0 doesn't crash here. But there is an error message > about ssl connection. > Both url's without https works fine here. > > Regards, > Michal It's chromium not chrome. -- Regards, Fran

Re: A way to keep systemd running on F14?

2010-09-16 Thread Frank Murphy
can I keep systemd?** > Test in in Rawhide(F15), where it still is the default. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: x86_64 as Fedora's primary platform

2010-09-27 Thread Frank Murphy
e it. For me inept brain. You mean no swap partition? -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: e4defrag support?

2010-10-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On 06/10/10 16:29, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > Cool if you turn it on in rawhide. Helps those of us who are build > challenged :-). I can test in raid and LV environments. > > Regards, > OldFart Likewise, if basic instruction provided. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded F

Re: e4defrag support?

2010-10-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On 06/10/10 16:31, Eric Sandeen wrote: > > > Maybe I'm being a bit too paranoid but it is your data after all :) > I just use Rawhide for testing, so a little reinstall keeps you in practice :D -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel m

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Frank Murphy
rt icon. Removing abrt, does not preclude the bug from happening, only the users knowledge that it happened. Sent by a general user (learning some code). -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: ABRT opt-out? (Re: bugzilla bugzappers?)

2010-11-04 Thread Frank Murphy
, then tell the user. "The maintainer would prefer a manully generated report, please contact the package maintainer: foo-owner@ \ bugzilla component foo for further details" -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Frank Murphy
m what you need. "Don't shoot the messenger, help improve the message" -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-04 Thread Frank Murphy
On 04/11/10 17:56, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: > I just have. Excellent. > > And not for the first time. Constantly evolving. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: bugzilla bugzappers?

2010-11-05 Thread Frank Murphy
nable to bugs, to help the maintainers. Just a thought. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: General systemd questions in respect to Fedora project.

2011-07-20 Thread Frank Murphy
On 20/07/11 09:01, Lucas wrote: > > Ok. Where is located "systemd mailing list" ? Tell me please it URL? > > Thanks. http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- de

Re: systemd vice SysV/LSB init systems - what next ?

2011-07-20 Thread Frank Murphy
can use: >.include /the/original/unit/file > and only override the specific options you need. > > Michal Where would you place this line? asked out of ignorance om my part. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- devel mailing l

Re: openssh: no pre-release sanity check? [Re: ssh-to-rawhide hangs

2011-09-11 Thread Frank Murphy
to rawhide. In the > fedora openssh release process, isn't there some sort of sanity check > that would catch this before inflicting it on all rawhide users? Is not rawhide "the sanity check", even if used productively by many? -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend

Re: GNOME 3 - font point sizes now scaled?

2011-09-30 Thread Frank Murphy
k. Maybe it has been done that way, honestly don't know. But introduce in Rawhide, instead of Branched. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Possible to submit an update without obsoleting?

2011-04-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On 24/04/11 11:37, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > In general I like the auto-obsoleting feature in Bodhi, but is there a > way to disable it for a particular update? > Not an answer to the problem? But what about a fedorapeople repo? Ask testers to enable it. -- Regards, Frank

Re: use /etc/aliases or /etc/mail/aliases?

2011-05-04 Thread Frank Murphy
exim -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-06 Thread Frank Murphy
lacement for gnome-schedule? -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On 06/05/11 23:51, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 09:03, Frank Murphy <mailto:frankl...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Any plans for a gui replacement for gnome-schedule? > > > It doesn't appear to be abandoned: > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome

Re: Fedora 15 / Gnome 3 gotchas

2011-05-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On 07/05/11 14:18, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > On May 7, 2011 5:00 AM, "Frank Murphy" <mailto:frankl...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > On 06/05/11 23:51, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 09:03, Frank Murphy <mailto:frankl...

Re: Is Rawhide supposed to be useful?

2011-05-09 Thread Frank Murphy
grade xorg*server* I have x all the time as a result. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Is Rawhide supposed to be useful?

2011-05-11 Thread Frank Murphy
enough boxes to spare these days to give real hw. So thats 2 people at least ;) -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Issues with preupgrade F15B?

2011-05-12 Thread Frank Murphy
blem. > > -Philip > Did you file a bugzilla report? -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Systemd questions following 15B upgrade

2011-05-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On 14/05/11 06:57, Philip Prindeville wrote: > Also, now that we don't use upstart, what's the equivalent of: > > chkconfig service on > systemctl enable\disable foo.service -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.f

Dry Run was: Re: Upgrading from Fedora 14 to 15 -> some problems

2011-05-28 Thread Frank Murphy
t;Can I run FN" Which would list out possible problems that may have to be overcome. Currently beyond my limited abilities. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: gpk-update-icon replacement under XFCE and other alternative DEs.

2011-05-29 Thread Frank Murphy
On 29/05/11 10:52, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > The irony is that according to Fedora 15 deployment guide (section 5.3, > PackageKit architecture), gpk-update-icon is still a part of Fedora. > > What am I missing? > > - Gilboa > /usr/bin/gpk-prefs -- Regards, Frank Murphy

Re: gpk-update-icon replacement under XFCE and other alternative DEs.

2011-05-29 Thread Frank Murphy
On 29/05/11 11:24, Gilboa Davara wrote: > On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 11:06 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: >> >> /usr/bin/gpk-prefs > > As far as I can see, gpk-prefs only handles the gpk configuration and > cannot be used as a alert icon. > > - Gilboa > > This might be

Re: Dry Run was: Re: Upgrading from Fedora 14 to 15 -> some problems

2011-05-30 Thread Frank Murphy
esting, Being the world it is, you can never have enough testers. in which > case we'd have to actually do the testing, and we may as well just fix > the problems rather than write a clever script to warn you about them... known bugs ;) -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Enc

Re: Orphaning Slim

2011-06-09 Thread Frank Murphy
out why exactly it > >fails. There are also some bugs untouched for long time. > > > >To sum it up, it is probably better to hand it over to someone else who > >has more time and actually still uses it. > > > >Regards, > >Jan Kaluza > Chec

OT: Fedora MulitiLiveCD, Current Status?

2011-06-12 Thread Frank Murphy
What is the status of the MultiLiveCD, that was being mooted last year. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: OT: Fedora MulitiLiveCD, Current Status?

2011-06-12 Thread Frank Murphy
On 12/06/11 12:19, Jared K. Smith wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: >> What is the status of the MultiLiveCD, >> that was being mooted last year. > > We were able to work through all the technical issues with the > proposal, and Release Engin

Re: SYSTEMD: Give us a option for upstart

2011-06-12 Thread Frank Murphy
, kernel arg init=/sbin/upstart YMMV. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: system can't finish boot with systemd-28-4.fc16 and kernel-3.0-0.rc2.git0.2.fc16

2011-06-14 Thread Frank Murphy
e --nodeps selinux-policy selinux-policy-targeted yum install selinux-policy selinux-policy-targeted touch /.autorelabel; reboot and then all was ok. ymmv. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

OT: SystemD F16\Rawhide Pointers needed.

2011-06-16 Thread Frank Murphy
t;yum update" and waiting. How can I allow yum-update to finish before login? -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: OT: SystemD F16\Rawhide Pointers needed.

2011-06-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On 16 June 2011 11:50, Michal Schmidt wrote: > On 06/16/2011 11:20 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: >> nfs mounted local repo from an attached NAS. >> (supplies a number of boxes) >> yum-updateonboot used to update on boot. (sans rhgb quiet) >> >> In level 3, login prom

Disregard last reply Re: OT: SystemD F16\Rawhide Pointers needed.

2011-06-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On 17/06/11 13:10, Frank Murphy wrote: My apologies, I was looking at 2 unfixed boxes. "Alert.." remains in fixed boxes. So kudos to you Michal. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject

Re: what key between Ctrl & Alt

2011-06-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On 17/06/11 15:42, Jared K. Smith wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Domingo Becker > wrote: >>> What key between Ctrl& Alt? >> >> The key that can not be named! > > It can be named... it's called the "Super" key. Mine's call

Re: release 3.0-0.rc3.git0.3.fc16.x86_64=3.0.0 gives version code 196608 endless loop: microcode: CPU0: family 15 not supported

2011-06-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On 18/06/11 12:19, Cecil Funderburk wrote: > > I upgraded to release 3.0-0.rc3.git0.3.fc16.x86_64=3.0.0 gives version > code 196608 > Try: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=248428 see if it fixes anything for you. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encod

systemctl F16\Rawhide RFE\Bug\My Ignorance?

2011-06-18 Thread Frank Murphy
In terminal systemctl status plymouth* returns no units. systemctl list-units returns too much What woul I use to list just a subsection, like plymouth* or any other similar services. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- devel mailing list devel

Re: systemctl F16\Rawhide RFE\Bug\My Ignorance?

2011-06-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On 18/06/11 13:22, Peter Robinson wrote: > > How about "systemctl list-units| grep plymouth" > > Peter > Unfortunatly gives nothing as a return, though there should be at least 4 services. systemctl list-units | grep systemd returns 14 services so grep works. -- Reg

Re: systemctl F16\Rawhide RFE\Bug\My Ignorance?

2011-06-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On 18/06/11 13:41, Ian Chapman wrote: > On 18/06/11 20:36, Frank Murphy wrote: > >> Unfortunatly gives nothing as a return, >> though there should be at least 4 services. > > > What about > > systemctl --all | grep -i plymouth > That did it, thank you. --

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-13 Thread Frank Murphy
the same... +2 Easier tell the pecking order. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-13 Thread Frank Murphy
; > Pending NextStable NextInLine Countdown PreStable PreRelease CuredHide TheHeir WeCouldNotThinkOfABetterNameSoThisIsIt -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fedora 13 has been branched!!

2010-02-17 Thread Frank Murphy
be a "branched.repo" config for testers. So they won't be getting "rawhide.repo". It that's what they want\need. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-17 Thread Frank Murphy
; > Björn Persson > I presume "branched" will then be repointed to an alpha F14. rawhide F15 -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Name that Tree!

2010-02-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On 17/02/10 08:49, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 08:34:01 +, > Frank Murphy wrote: >> >> I presume "branched" will then be repointed to an alpha F14. >> rawhide F15 > > That doesn't happen at the release of F13, but r

Re: Call for F13 release slogan suggestions

2010-02-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On 24/02/10 21:17, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 22:06 -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote: >> >> * short (1-3 words) >> * a call to action >> * positive >> >> > > So, "Houston, we have a problem." is not acceptable? > > Might n

Re: FESCo wants to ban direct stable pushes in Bodhi (urgent call for feedback)

2010-02-27 Thread Frank Murphy
d. Bug fixes would also be applied. > > These kind of non-user-demand driven fixes should not be ignored in any > noone-is-asking so dont release approach. > If it's not broken, don't fix it. Thats what the F13/Rawhide boxes are for. -- Regards, Frank

Re: FESCo wants to ban direct stable pushes in Bodhi (urgent call for feedback)

2010-02-27 Thread Frank Murphy
plymouth stuff. Do a yum --enablerepo=rawhide update kernel check that they are indeed "fc13" and see what it tries to pull in. If you don't like waht you see type in "n" -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org ht

Re: FESCo wants to ban direct stable pushes in Bodhi (urgent call for feedback)

2010-03-01 Thread Frank Murphy
On 01/03/10 00:06, Kevin Kofler wrote: > (Sorry, I reordered the replies a bit so I can reply to them without > referring back and forth.) It's also called "political licence" > > Frank Murphy wrote: >> On 02/27/2010 04:30 PM, Mail Lists wrote: >> an &

Re: FESCo wants to ban direct stable pushes in Bodhi (urgent call for feedback)

2010-03-01 Thread Frank Murphy
On 01/03/10 11:17, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: >> It's also called "political licence" > > No, it's not really the same thing. ;-) > > I didn't try to distort your viewpoint, just highlight the contradictions. > > But this time I&#x

Re: Problem with openoffice yum update

2010-03-04 Thread Frank Murphy
ttempting to update from version > 3.2.0-12.8.fc13.i686 to 3.2.0-12.9.fc13.i686. > > I'm happy to report this in bugzilla, but I'm not sure what I should > report it against. > --snipped-- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569352 ? -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8

Re: Fight bugs, not FESCo

2010-03-06 Thread Frank Murphy
;> 2) file is stored in UUID.$timestamp (or it is stored as a BLOB in the >>> DB) >>> 3) once a day a crawler reads all files and counts for each package how >>> often they are installed, What about uninstalled? Update bring in upd to X, but package Y,Z. come in. User

Re: Fight bugs, not FESCo

2010-03-06 Thread Frank Murphy
Will GDM being uninstalled be accouted for, or will the install just matter? Like XFCE update tends to pull in nautilus. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F13 -EGPUDRIVERNOWORKIE

2010-03-10 Thread Frank Murphy
Michal What version *.iso did you try installing with? Have you a link? -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded, Fedora 12, 13, Rawhide: x86_64 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-12 Thread Frank Murphy
a regular > base, but hard for me to get it in my country. I will then complain > and cry until they start to support me well. Sure i could buy a > different car that's older and needs just a bit oil from time to time, > but hey, this is a free world, i can change anything. >

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-12 Thread Frank Murphy
On 12/03/10 11:56, Thomas Janssen wrote: > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: >> On 12/03/10 11:33, Thomas Janssen wrote: >> -snipped-- >> >> If I can be indulged. >> >>> it's because i can't believe that dial-up-land

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-12 Thread Frank Murphy
On 12/03/10 12:04, Frank Murphy wrote: --snipped-- > That is not, you are not intitled to voice your concerns, s /That is not to say, you are not intitled to voice your concerns, > ---snipped- -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded, Fedora 12, 13, Rawhide: x86_64 -- devel m

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-12 Thread Frank Murphy
r. >> >> So you say. > > Well, all that complaining in this meag-threads makes it obvious that > Fedora doesn't fit their needs, don't you think ;) > What doesn't fit their need is the infracstruture, not the distro. >>>>ins

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-12 Thread Frank Murphy
Fedora fully updated "A highspeed internet connection is recommended" No, I'm not trying to help create a two-tier community. Just maybe thinking on something. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded, Fedora 12, 13, Rawhide: x86_64 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: What is the future of logwatch?

2010-03-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On 17/03/10 17:22, Karel Klic wrote: --snipped-- > Is it "logwatch" really enabled by default on Fedora? Currently you have to "yum install logwatch" with @live CD's install not sure about the DVD. --snipped-- -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded, Fedora 12, 13

Rawhide + debug pkgs

2010-03-21 Thread Frank Murphy
Is it possible to come up with some method. Whereby you can automatically install a debug pks for every rpm on a rawhide box. Instead of having to install as and when problems, or in a piecemeal fashion. Not a dev (yet), so not something that could as yet come myself. -- Regards, Frank

Re: Upstream bugs vs. Fedora bugs: KDE people do it wrong

2010-03-31 Thread Frank Murphy
/advisable. But for that user can he wait maybe 2 releases to get the fix? -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded, Fedora.x86_64 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Upstream bugs vs. Fedora bugs: KDE people do it wrong

2010-03-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On 31/03/10 10:10, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 03/31/2010 02:38 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: >> >> Then ask the user Could you try "yum --enablerepo=rawhide update foo" >> > >> From Fedora 13 onwards, this repo is not even installed by default which will make fi

Re: Upstream bugs vs. Fedora bugs: KDE people do it wrong

2010-03-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On 31/03/10 11:50, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > On Wednesday 31 March 2010 12:26:17 Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> On 03/31/2010 03:45 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: >>> which will make fixing bugs in current even more important. >> >> Not at all. Either the bug is important to fix i

Re: Upstream bugs vs. Fedora bugs: KDE people do it wrong

2010-03-31 Thread Frank Murphy
On 31/03/10 12:25, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > On Wednesday 31 March 2010 12:55:58 Frank Murphy wrote: >> On 31/03/10 11:50, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >>> On Wednesday 31 March 2010 12:26:17 Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>>> On 03/31/2010 03:45 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: >&g

Re: Upstream bugs vs. Fedora bugs: KDE people do it wrong

2010-03-31 Thread Frank Murphy
against. > > So there should be a COMMENT why it's closed in rawhide only - usually rawhide > bugs should be closed in rawhide. But sometimes the fix could lead to > difficult > backport etc... So the only way is to fix it in Rawhide only. As an end user a comment as suc

Unsigned Packages - Yum/Pk

2010-04-03 Thread Frank Murphy
PackageKit allows a forced install of unsigned pkg. yu does the following: Package krb5-libs-1.7.1-7.fc13.i686.rpm is not signed I know about --nogpgcheck. But can I edit something to the effect of: If unsigned don't include. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded, Fedora.x86_64 Kerne

What Decides Basearch?

2010-04-05 Thread Frank Murphy
I have created a hybrid box for myself. Kernel.x86_64 All else i686 + noarch (no problems encountered) bash-4.1$ uname -i (-m) x86_64 How would I get\force it to return i686? -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded, Fedora.x86_64/i686 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

(Solved) Re: What Decides Basearch?

2010-04-05 Thread Frank Murphy
On 05/04/10 13:57, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, Frank Murphy wrote: > >> I have created a hybrid box for myself. >> >> Kernel.x86_64 >> All else i686 + noarch (no problems encountered) >> >> bash-4.1$ uname -i (-m) >>

Re: Unsigned Packages - Yum/Pk

2010-04-05 Thread Frank Murphy
to learn the complete list to --exclude ? > This would be some help. But hopefully the autoqa, thats talked about may prevent small stuff like this. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded, Fedora.x86 64-32 Hybrid -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: urgent testing call: F13 kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13

2010-04-07 Thread Frank Murphy
Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded, Fedora.x86 64-32 Hybrid -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-19 Thread Frank Murphy
but for novies it's hard to use. Bookmark this: http://ss64.com/bash/ Less typing, less for novices to forget. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded, Fedora.x86 64-32 Hybrid -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-21 Thread Frank Murphy
her names? --snip-- > 5. IMHO, that kind of users should not be using the terminal in the first > place, it's what GUIs are for. +1 -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded, Fedora.x86 64-32 Hybrid -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F13/i686: yum update emptied /boot, /bin, /lib, etc.

2010-04-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On 22/04/10 22:01, Jim Meyering wrote: > > There was only one: history-2010-03-08.sqlite > BZ-attached here: > > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/584997 Read up on: yum-plugin-protect-packages if your going on autopilot. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded, Fedora.x86 64-32 H

Re: Please move your ABRT bugs upstream

2010-04-25 Thread Frank Murphy
On 25/04/10 09:20, Christoph Wickert wrote: --snipped-- > > And obviously a checkbox doesn't help ether to separate the 'lazy > idiots' from the active reporters. Q. E. D. ;) Or perhaps the lazy maintainers? -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded, Fedora 64 and 3

Re: playing flash regression in f13-beta

2010-04-25 Thread Frank Murphy
.i686 xulrunner-1.9.2.3-1.fc13.i686 -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded, Fedora 64 & 32 bit -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: playing flash regression in f13-beta

2010-04-26 Thread Frank Murphy
On 26/04/10 09:01, Luming Yu wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: >> On 24/04/10 11:13, Luming Yu wrote: >>> Hi there, >>> >>> I came across a really weird problem with flash player on playing >>> these video on http://

Re: Getting grub launching the installer

2011-11-12 Thread Frank Murphy
two files over, > edit menu.lst, and I'm done. > > I don't seem to find this installation method documented, just wondering > if it's gone for good, or this is just my problem. > > > Cant you do: fpo boot? http://boot.fedoraproject.org/faq -- Regards, Frank M

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