Re: My git security experiences

2010-01-20 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 01:31:45PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 22:20 +0100, Jochen Schmitt wrote: > > > > I haven't got any error message. But I have expedted to > > get one, because I'm not a kernel developer. I'm only a > > ordinary provenpackager without any additio

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha RC3 Available Now!

2010-08-13 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 06:20:29PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > I really think the benefits and costs need to be looked at on a case by > > case basis and the package maintainers should be the ones making the call. > > The problem is, the kernel maintainers (and you

Re: "Staying close to upstream"

2010-08-13 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 05:47:37PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Good luck getting Mozilla to accept anything. Just like the kernel, they're > a very hard to work with upstream. If you don't know the right people, your > stuff just doesn't get in. :-( Which is odd, because the number of cha

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide upgrades

2010-08-18 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 12:10:11AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Heya, > > just a little heads up for when you upgrade a rawhide system that is a > few weeks old to current rawhide: since we changed the way how some of > the default symlinks of systemd are created you will end up with an

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide upgrades

2010-08-18 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:32:01AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 18.08.10 18:15, Dave Jones (da...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > > # systemctl enable ge...@.service prefdm.service getty.target > > rc-local.service remote-fs.target > > > >

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide upgrades

2010-08-18 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:53:44AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > It tells me to see the logs for details, but there's not a single > > message > > > > from systemd in the logs. > > > > > > There should be an explanation in dmesg, that it cannot find > > default.target. >

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide upgrades

2010-08-18 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 07:00:16PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:53:44AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > > > It tells me to see the logs for details, but there's not a single > message > > > > > from syste

newer NVRs in older releases.

2010-09-07 Thread Dave Jones
I just hit this on an f13 box. Transaction Check Error: package libgcc-4.4.4-11.fc12.x86_64 (which is newer than libgcc-4.4.4-10.fc13.i686) is already installed Could the buildsystem be changed to prevent newer NVRs from being built if an older one exists in a newer buildroot ? Should it ?

Re: newer NVRs in older releases.

2010-09-07 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 06:06:57PM +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 11:56:23AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > > I just hit this on an f13 box. > > > > Transaction Check Error: > > package libgcc-4.4.4-11.fc12.x86_64 (which is newer than > &

Re: article on security of various linux

2010-09-09 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 10:30:57AM -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > > This article: > > > > http://labs.mwrinfosecurity.com/notices/security_mechanisms_in_linux_environment__part_1___userspace_memory_protection/ > > > > seems to say that fe

Re: Problem with 2.6.35.4-12.fc14.x86_64

2010-09-15 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 08:11:47PM +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > One problem fixed, introduced another > > === > [ INFO: suspicious rcu_dereference_check() usage. ] > --- > include/linux/cgro

Re: Problem with 2.6.35.4-12.fc14.x86_64

2010-09-15 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:11:52PM +0200, Morten P.D. Stevens wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:devel- > > boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Michal Schmidt > > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:03 PM > > To: devel@

Re: Fedora 14 Beta Declared GOLD

2010-09-22 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 03:31:39PM -0700, John Poelstra wrote: > At the Fedora 14 Beta Go/No-Go meeting today, the Fedora 14 Beta was > declared GOLD and ready for release on September 28, 2010. is what's at rsync://mirrors.kernel.org/mirrors/fedora/development/14/ right now the beta tree, or i

Re: Fedora "backports" repo? (Was Re: PostgreSQL 9 for F14?)

2010-09-22 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 02:45:03PM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > I can see a big increase in boot time with my desktop setup when using a > debugging kernel among other slow-downs. From 8 seconds (non-debug) at > least double that. I use modern CPUs (quad core a minimum) with SSDs and

policycoreutils needs cairo.

2010-10-25 Thread Dave Jones
I did a minimal install yesterday, and was surprised to find that cairo, and a bunch of X libs were still installed. The dependancy chain that pulled them in looks like this.. policycoreutils -> dbus-glib -> gobject-introspection -> fontconfig -> cairo Could any part of that chain have its depen

Re: disable drm_kms_helper polling in kernel 2.6.35

2010-11-04 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 05:23:09PM +0300, macachuto wrote: > Dear All. > > I would like to ask, when it will be possible to have kernel 2.6.35 with > /sys/module/drm_kms_helper/parameters/poll to disable "hotplug" polling. > > I have laptop with i915GM video and experience mouse cursor fre

Re: Compile with -fno-omit-frame-pointer on x86_64?

2010-11-04 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 04:51:01PM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > [ But yes, 4% is a big hit. 1% I would accept without hesitation. > 4% does make me hesitate a little bit. During devel cycles, we > accept much more slowdown than that for the debug kernel, > of course. If we can figure out

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (v3)

2011-07-14 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 03:39:13PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Orphan isic seeing as I took ip6sic which is similar, I'll take this too. Dave -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [ INFO: possible recursive locking detected ] systemd-logind/651 is trying to acquire lock:

2011-07-15 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:11:43PM +0400, Lucas wrote: > Dear All. > > Just updated and got the following in dmesg: Thanks, I just reported this upstream. Dave -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-26 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 06:22:50PM +0200, Jim Meyering wrote: > FYI, I've just yum-updated my rawhide VM to the latest > (but not from the console) and was surprised to lose the connection > while it was happening. Again. It happened to me last week, too. > > I got back in via the console a

Re: koji: kernel-2.6.40-3.fc15

2011-07-29 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 01:16:43AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > i have running 2.6.40-4.fc15.x86_64 #1 SMP in my testing-virtual-machine > since > some minutes, boot looked fine, after a minute a got a btrfs-stack-trace > > hope this helps (no i do not tend use btrfs in production *gg*) h

Re: koji: kernel-2.6.40-3.fc15

2011-07-29 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:29:58PM -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > wasn't there some kind of issue in vm's ? Maybe I'm not remembering > correctly. too vague to comment. there are always 'issues in vm's :) > Dave - how is the 2.6.40 code different or not from 3.0.0-2 ? pretty much the same

Fedora kernel bug day.

2011-08-18 Thread Dave Jones
We've been planning on doing one of these forever, but never seeming to get around to it. The kernel gets a lot of bugs (possibly more than any other package), and as such, we've got nearly a thousand bugs open right now, and just three people working on it full-time. The problem we've faced with

Re: Fedora kernel bug day.

2011-08-22 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 03:33:24PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > We'll be doing this in #fedora-kernel next Monday (22nd) > > I expect that the wiki page will continue to evolve as we start working > > on this, and perhaps this can even become a regular thing. > > apologies for not help

Re: Memory requirements

2011-08-27 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 05:35:19PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > Why does it need so much to start with? Because the installer initrd contains the kitchen sink. Dave -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: floppy support

2011-08-29 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:31:09AM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote: > > P.S. Your argument will be moot when the kernel drops the floppy module. > > Is there actually a plan for this to happen? Curious, not arguing here. Not any time soon. Dave -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedorapr

Re: Fedora 16 feels slow

2011-09-14 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 03:59:02PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > I think the degree of slow down now, compared with the past, makes this > issue a bug. If things are like they are now, I won't be running debug > kernels on my rawhide systems. It costs me too much time. It would be > nice to

Re: Fedora kernel bug day.

2011-10-03 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:24:45PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 03:33:24PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > We'll be doing this in #fedora-kernel next Monday (22nd) > > > I expect that the wiki page will continue to evolve as we start

Re: Fedora kernel bug day.

2011-10-05 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 07:33:22AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 15:36:27 -0400, > Dave Jones wrote: > > > > So we're thinking of trying this again this thursday with a focus on 16, > > (but triage work on older releases is welco

Re: Fedora kernel bug day.

2011-10-05 Thread Dave Jones
Some details about the triage day we are holding tomorrow. Where: #fedora-kernel on irc.freenode.net When: October 6th 2011 What: The primary focus is going to be on getting things in the best shape possible for Fedora 16's release. However there are some useful things that can be done for all

Re: kernel: CONFIG_NF_CONNTRACK=y

2011-05-14 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 05:22:35PM +0200, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: > hi, > > why is it 'yes' instead of 'm'(module)? bug/feature?? > > performance troubles: http://marc.info/?l=linux-netdev&m=130212178423334&w=2 It used to be a module, but was converted to built-in as we were always loadin

Re: kernel: CONFIG_NF_CONNTRACK=y

2011-05-17 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 07:02:04PM +0200, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: > On 05/14/2011 06:10 PM, Dave Jones wrote: > > > It used to be a module, but was converted to built-in as we were always > > loading it in the network scripts. A lot of the decisions made in > > th

Re: 9base in Fedora?

2011-05-25 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:56:25PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > What would cause someone to choose to use these tools rather than the > > ones that exist in Fedora already? > > They come from an environment where plan9 is more commonly used Rob Pike's house ? Dave -- devel maili

Orphaning packages: fxload & midisport-firmware

2011-05-28 Thread Dave Jones
I don't own a device to test this any more, so I'm going to orphan these two. If anyone wants them, they're very low maintainence. (mostly just keeping up with package guideline changes, though there's a newer version of fxload available, but the absense of hardware made me nervous to blindly rebas

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-09 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 02:00:57PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 08:01:06PM +1000, Chris Jones wrote: > > > I agree. As virtualization technology becomes more and more involved > > and frequent on users systems, particularly with advanced Linux users, > > I think

Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-12 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 01:27:44PM -0700, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: > On 2011-06-11 12:11, Lucas wrote: > > Actually it does relabel by it self after boot with option "selinux=0" > > That sounds rather useful. How does it know whether or not it was > previously booted with selinux=0? bootin

Re: appletalk+psnap+ipx modules in the kernel-3.0-0.rc3.git5.1.fc16

2011-06-18 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 12:54:14PM +0400, Lucas wrote: > Dear All > > I have installed the latest kernel from koji and found out that now I have 3 > new modules: > appletalk > psnap > ipx > > I know what is IPX. > > But do we really need to have AppleTalk always loaded in the kernel?

Re: i915 errors from 3.0 kernel

2011-06-29 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 01:40:06PM -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > I thought so - glad its benign ... I assume the messages will > sometimes be useful to the kernel team ... > > so should I keep mentioning new ones or only if its an actual OOPS? If you have abrt installed it will file b

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16

2011-07-12 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 03:28:59PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Orphan ip6sic I've used this from time to time. I'll pick it up. > Orphan minicom > comaintained by: jcapik If something is orphaned, but has comaintainers, is that enough to keep it in the distro ? Dave -- de

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16

2011-07-12 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 05:12:07PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > Orphan minicom > > > comaintained by: jcapik > > > > If something is orphaned, but has comaintainers, is that enough to keep > > it in the distro ? > > Not really - we'd like one of the comaintainers to pick

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16

2011-07-12 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 05:04:51PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 03:28:59PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > Orphan ip6sic > > I've used this from time to time. I'll pick it up. So I took maintainership in pkgdb. Now every time I commi

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v2] Retiring packages in F-16

2011-07-12 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 06:47:12PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > Orphan midisport-firmware > > I own hardware that uses this. Taken. you'll want to take its dependancy too 'fxload' Dave -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/li

intent to orphan: oprofileui

2010-02-17 Thread Dave Jones
I'm going to recommend dropping this package from Fedora entirely. - Upstream seems to have stopped development on it since intel acquired its developers (opened-hand) - The new profiling tools (perf) are in many cases easier to use than oprofile - oprofileui had a number of bugs that look like

tor dependency insanity.

2010-03-02 Thread Dave Jones
So after having heard the nth discussion about tor, I decided to check it out. I tried installing it on a stripped down f12 box that has no X, or other stuff unnecessary for routing network packets. What happened next has me lost for words. Our dependency chains suck. Dave (12:24:07:r...

Re: tor dependency insanity.

2010-03-02 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 09:51:17AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 12:37 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > > --> Processing Dependency: tor-lsb = 0.2.1.23-1200.fc12 for package: > > tor-0.2.1.23-1200.fc12.i686 > > This is where things go to hell. Wh

Re: tor dependency insanity.

2010-03-02 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 01:43:13PM -0500, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said: > >>> We should make a stand and drop it from Fedora until it's not made up of > >>> bonghits and failure. (haha, yeah. thanks, here al

Re: tor dependency insanity.

2010-03-02 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 08:23:22PM +0100, Enrico Scholz wrote: > Enrico Scholz writes: > > > | yum install tor tor-upstart > > should be > > | yum install tor-core tor-upstart still no good, because tor-upstart requires tor which requires tor-lsb which... Dave -- devel mailin

no rawhide images/

2011-11-14 Thread Dave Jones
Looking at http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide-2014/logs/mash.log (and previous logs), I don't see any obvious message for why the images/ directory isn't being created in the composes. anyone have info on what's broken ? Dave -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproje

Re: no rawhide images/

2011-11-14 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:29:10AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Nov 14, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Dave Jones wrote: > > Looking at > > http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide-2014/logs/mash.log > > (and previous logs), I don't see any obvious message for why

Re: Changing kernel API / Breaking VirtualBox - update criteria violation?

2011-11-22 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 08:53:13AM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > According to the updates policy the > maintainer needs to consider that their change will cause problems for third > party kernel module packagers and end users that are compiling their own > kernel modules. We *know* we're goi

Re: Changing kernel API / Breaking VirtualBox - update criteria violation?

2011-11-22 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 09:55:59AM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > So, yes, it may be fully expected that issuing an update will break out of > tree modules but that doesn't stop it from being one factor to *consider*. Consideration implies that the following thought process will occur "This

Re: Changing kernel API / Breaking VirtualBox - update criteria violation?

2011-11-22 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 07:24:20PM +0100, Thomas Moschny wrote: > 2011/11/22 Dave Jones : > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 09:55:59AM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > Consideration implies that the following thought process will occur > > > > "This update will br

Re: Apple will use LLVM

2012-02-16 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:22:03AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 02/16/2012 10:08 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > > Not to mention that the kernel devs use gcc to compile the kernel - > > and it most certainly puts a lot of pressure on the compiler. I suspect > > unless linus drops gcc a

Re: F17 Slowness

2012-02-16 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:44:45AM -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > Just seeing if it's just me, or we back to being slow again during > testing with the debug options and the kernel? Am on a F16 kernel and > is little better than F17 3.3 kernels. the first -rc build of each kernel release has de

Re: F16 Linux 3.1 soft lockups

2012-02-20 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:39:54PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Hi, > > W dniu 7 stycznia 2012 16:34 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski > napisał: > > Hi, > > > > I've noticed some strange soft lockup behaviour on my system (please > > see the attachment). Soft lockup appears to be caused

Fedora Kernel Team Meeting agenda Mar 2 2012

2012-03-02 Thread Dave Jones
The kernel has several widespread bugs that are affecting all releases, that are impacting a lot of users. * Hibernation There are so many bugs here it's hard to know where to begin. - We have cases where it fails to sleep, or resumes instantly. - There are cases where it looks to be workin

Re: does /etc/sysctl.d/ really obeyed and does really override /etc/sysctl.conf

2012-03-16 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:57:13AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Matthew Garrett said: > > No package should be automatically changing the sysrq policy. > > Why not? > > For example, I use a commercial backup program that makes extensive use > of IPC and needs the msgmni a

Re: does /etc/sysctl.d/ really obeyed and does really override /etc/sysctl.conf

2012-03-16 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 09:42:50PM +0200, Muayyad AlSadi wrote: > > What happens if two packages want to set a sysctl to different values ? > > that's why they are prefixed with numbers, the higher number will take > effect > eg. 99-foobar.conf > > sometimes we have conventions for number

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-18 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 04:23:56PM +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > It is very sad that Intel/AMD just didn't make sure rep movsb > isn't the fastest copying sequence on all of their CPUs, > which underneath could do whatever magic based on size and src/dst > alignment (e.g. for small length han

updates-testing trainwreck.

2010-11-19 Thread Dave Jones
Wtf happened in updates-testing ? gdm and a bunch of other stuff crashes on startup.. NetworkManager[1059]: [1290185488.399900] [nm-manager.c:1332] user_proxy_init(): could not init user settings proxy: (3) Could not get owner of name 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerUserSettings': no such nam

Re: updates-testing trainwreck.

2010-11-19 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 01:23:26PM -0500, Ray Strode wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Dave Jones wrote: > > Wtf happened in updates-testing ? > > > > gdm and a bunch of other stuff crashes on startup.. > > >  

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-10 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:51:39AM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > > The problem is entirely cosmetic. No data is harmed, the program exits > > after that, it's just a child thread and the main process don't > > communicate the exit quite right. So, pretty much everyone who uses > > calibre se

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-11 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:45:10PM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > The problem here is that some maintainers doesn't want ABRT reports at > all even those not yet reported... It's arguable that such people are 'maintainers' at all if this is the case. I find it quite sad that we have packagers

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-11 Thread Dave Jones
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 02:11:27AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Dave Jones wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:45:10PM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > > > > > The problem here is that some maintainers doesn't want ABRT reports at > &

Re: ABRT opt-out (was Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting)

2010-12-12 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:46:04AM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > > Apropos of nothing: kerneloops reporting seems to have been broken ever > > since > > we switched from using the kerneloops client to abrt, but that's another > > story.. > > - I reported quite a few oops using abrt (even

Re: powertop2 vs powertop

2011-03-14 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 06:53:31PM +0100, jan.klepek wrote: > In not so recent past, powertop2 alpha has been released [1] and it is > currently in version 1.97. It is usuable and I was thinking about > packaging it for Fedora. However, there is already "old" powertop. > So I will have to pac

Re: NVR email I just sent

2010-05-27 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:01:34PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > Hello all, I just sent an email to several of you with the F12->F13 > updates list. I included f13-updates-testing but forgot f13-updates so > some of those in the list were false positives. Below is an updated > list. Sorry ab

Re: NVR email I just sent

2010-05-27 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:28:08AM -0700, John Reiser wrote: > > > greater for f12: x86info (davej ) > > > f12 = 1:x86info-1.25-1.45.fc12.src > > > f13 = 1:x86info-1.25-1.44.fc13.src > > > > These are actually the same, (I did two commits in f12, and combined > > both when I updated f1

Re: Proposed release criteria additions for F14+

2010-06-30 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:28:16AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > * The desktop default update manager must not periodically check for > updates when the system is booted live, but must periodically check for > updates when running on an installed system tangentally related: Do we ever res

Re: Question on SELinux AVC messages with systemd.

2010-07-21 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 04:26:14PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 20.07.10 16:04, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: > > > I am not entirely sure though why those processes actually access those > > dirs in this case. Maybe they are iterating through the files in /dev

Re: Question on SELinux AVC messages with systemd.

2010-07-21 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 02:30:03PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 04:26:14PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Tue, 20.07.10 16:04, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: > > > > > I am not entirely sure though why those process

Re: Outage: Updates - 2010-07-21 16:00 UTC

2010-07-21 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 04:47:38PM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > There will be an outage starting at 2010-07-21 16:00 UTC, which will > last approximately 3 hours. Outages will be small but noticeable for > small segments as systems are updated and rebooted. > > To convert UTC to your

Re: Question on SELinux AVC messages with systemd.

2010-07-27 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 02:39:55PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Dave Jones (da...@redhat.com) said: > > of those that it does open(),.. Is there seriously a use-case for someone > > wanting > > lvm partitioned /dev/ram disks ? or /dev/loop ? > > I woul

modification of sources file causes git corruption.

2010-07-31 Thread Dave Jones
Check this out.. (00:13:25:da...@gelk:kernel)$ fedpkg -v upload patch-2.6.35-rc6-git6.bz2 Creating module object from /mnt/data/src/fedora/kernel Uploading: f73d01927a3150e729b44add5ea4923c patch-2.6.35-rc6-git6.bz2 Running curl -k --cert /home/davej/.fedora.cert --fail -o /dev/null --show-error

Re: modification of sources file causes git corruption.

2010-08-01 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:58:26PM -0700, Matt McCutchen wrote: > That's not "corruption", that's just an unreferenced object, which does > no harm except to waste space. "git gc" will delete such objects. (20:50:18:da...@gelk:kernel)$ git fsck --full dangling blob 41bc432a23a83d5775562572936

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-20 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:54:36PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote: > > The hardware is way slower ... so we can just build on faster hardware > > (x86_64). Which is the only sane way to do it. > > Trying to build on ARM directly is kind of a gimmick but nothing one > > can seriously use to build a wh

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 01:27:04PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > All sorts of things can speed it up, most of the Fedora builders are > currently loopback ext4 over NFS over 100Mb ethernet over USB. Not > optimal. Just switching them to ext2 would save a ton of IO. The buildroots get regenerat

Re: RFC: Primary architecture promotion requirements

2012-03-21 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:32:04AM -0400, Zach Brown wrote: > On 03/21/2012 10:58 AM, Dave Jones wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 01:27:04PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > All sorts of things can speed it up, most of the Fedora builders are > > > curre

Re: /tmp on tmpfs

2012-04-02 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 06:34:59PM -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 08:32:56PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > >* #834 F18 Feature: /tmp on tmpfs - > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/tmp-on-tmpfs (mitr, 17:40:06) > > * AGREED: tmp-on-tmpfs is accepted (+5 -3

Re: kernel-modules-extra and GFS2

2012-04-11 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 07:19:32AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> > I've had some reports recently that appeared to suggest that in F17, > >> > GFS2 was no longer being supported by the kernel. Having investigated > >> > this, it appears that the root cause is that the gfs2.ko module has been >

Re: kernel-modules-extra and GFS2

2012-04-11 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 04:48:38PM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > > [*] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting_channel > > Related question: Should > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/kernel/2012-March/003711.html > ([PATCH] rawhide: enable HYPERV drivers) also be on the agenda? I

Re: Proposed F18 feature: MiniDebugInfo

2012-05-09 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 11:20:43AM -0700, John Reiser wrote: > > 1G fits on both the smallest MiniDVD format and most extant USB sticks. > > Let's do it already. > > If so, then please acknowledge explicitly that Fedora would be discarding > some 4% of running, otherwise-capable machines (es

Re: ABRT Server

2012-09-05 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 11:39:31AM +0200, Michal Toman wrote: > We believe this will help developers to better prioritize their > work and make debugging easier (crashes in common libraries are > grouped into a single problem, for each crash versions of affected > packages/architectures are li

Re: abrt server report: 20121004

2012-10-04 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 04:52:19PM +0200, Richard Marko wrote: > > kernel 220 ▁▂▄▅▇▇█ Nice graphs! > What's this about? > -- > > These are the statistics generated by ABRT Server deployed on [1]. > > We are going to send these re

Re: abrt server report: 20121004

2012-10-04 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 11:02:43AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 04:52:19PM +0200, Richard Marko wrote: > > > > > kernel 220 ▁▂▄▅▇▇█ > > Nice graphs! > > > What's this about? > &g

Re: abrt server report: 20121004

2012-10-04 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 11:10:47AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > > Feature request: > > Can you do the same backtrace hashing abrt does, and provide a link to any > > bugs in bugzilla with the abrt_hash in the whiteboard ? > > Never mind. It seems you do that, and

Re: modules, firmware, kernel size (was Re: systemd requires HTTP server and serves QR codes)

2012-10-17 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 05:59:55PM +0200, drago01 wrote: > > Given that the kernel is currently a full quarter of the current image, I > > think it has to be. > > No you could also use a different kernel image; build your own kernel; > use a compressed filesystem, don't use a kernel at all a

Re: Fedora 18 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, November 22 @ 20:00 UTC (3pm Eastern, 12pm Pacific)

2012-11-21 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:35:34AM -0500, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > * Move the meeting a few hours back, to avoid conflict with the main > event of the day. -3 hours would mean 12pm Eastern/9am Pacific but as I'm > not familiar with Thanksgivings, not sure it will help. Sorry for that > looks-

Re: Why does so much virt stuff depend on glusterfs?

2013-07-23 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 05:17:01PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: So this thread is complaining about.. > > Removing: > > glusterfs x86_64 3.4.0-2.fc19 @updates-testing > > 4.7 M > > Removing for dependencies: > > glusterfs-api x86_64 3.4.0-2.fc

Re: mass rebuild update

2013-08-05 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 02:14:55AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > going forward we need to work out how to do the > perl builds quicker. there really is no reason why it needs to take as > long as it does. Maybe only rebuild things that have a buildrequires on perl ? None of the rebuild notifi

Re: numatop: %{optflags} fail the 32bit build

2013-09-12 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 08:46:33AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > This is the offending function: > > void > cpuid(unsigned int *eax, unsigned int *ebx, unsigned int *ecx, > unsigned int *edx) > { > __asm volatile > ("cpuid\n\t" > : "=a" (*eax), >"=b" (*ebx),

Re: abrt server report: 20130917

2013-09-17 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 03:57:55PM +0200, Michal Toman wrote: > In last two weeks these components were crashing the most: > > 1. kernel seen 85925 times (52% of all reports) > https://retrace.fedoraproject.org/faf/problems/1174076/ > https://retrace.fedoraproject.org/faf/problems/120

Re: Intent to retire: wimax, wimax-tools

2013-09-19 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 04:26:08PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Because it's pretty much dead upstream, getting towards dead in real-world > deployments, and never really worked well anyway in Linux. > > Orphaned in F20, rawhide. If no one wants to grab it, will retire in > a week or two.

Re: when startup delays become bugs

2013-05-15 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 02:25:22PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > I Want To Believe in btrfs, but unfortunately it's still excessively > > buggy. It's actually got worse in Rawhide recently > > Well, it works fine for myself and for quite a few other folks I know. Cool story. > I am

Re: Results of a test mass rebuild of rawhide/x86_64 with gcc-4.8.0-0.1.fc19

2013-01-14 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 09:40:27PM +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > Hi! > > As part of preparations for possible switch of system compiler in F19 > to GCC 4.8.0, we (myself and Marek Polacek) have performed a test mass > rebuild of rawhide (December 17th package list) using gcc-4.8.0-0.1.fc19 >

Re: Abrt (was Re: Most buggy packages)

2013-02-19 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 07:13:27AM -0500, David Malcolm wrote: > I have a script that automates some of the workload of reassigning the > component back to where the bug really is, but it currently requires > some manual intervention: > http://fedorapeople.org/cgit/dmalcolm/public_git/triage.

Re: Abrt (was Re: Most buggy packages)

2013-02-19 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:10:38PM +0100, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > >>So if you want to hack this into a tool for use on kernel bugs, go for > >>it. > >...and please integrate with abrt! Let's have it all working together :) > > - I am all for it, the abrt server is exactly the place where the

Re: RFC: Fedora revamp proposal

2013-03-04 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 08:35:08PM +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> 1: Long-term ABI for applications that we don't want to break without > >> significant discussion. > >> For now, this will include the stable kernel and libc ABIs > >

Re: f19 mass branching

2013-03-13 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:30:01AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi All, > > F19 has been branched, please be sure to do a git pull --rebase to pick > up the new branch, additionally rawhide/f20 has had inheritance cut off > from previo

Re: f19 mass branching

2013-03-13 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 09:51:01AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:35:00 -0500 > Chris Adams wrote: > > > Once upon a time, Dave Jones said: > > > Having my local mirror wiped when I rsynced todays rawhide tree was > > > unexpected. Hav

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