Hi all,
I'm retiring gnome-media as it's no longer used by anything.
Thanks,
Dan
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On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Carlos Morel-Riquelme
wrote:
> Hi guys , i have a question , i use fedora 20 branched and work fine , also
> i can contribute to the comunity send bugs error and testing new packages :)
> , now i don't now if i can update to fedora 21 branched when this is out.
>
>
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Parag N(पराग़) wrote:
> Hi,
>From the yesterday's pkgs git commit logs I see 3-4 people built few
> packages for libicu soname bump. I am not sure why a single person can't
> carry such a few package rebuilds for libicu soname bump.
>Whoever (people names) w
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Nils Philippsen wrote:
> sorry for stepping on your toes -- it was late in the evening and there
> were three packages blocking my build, I simply overlooked that harfbuzz
> was rebuilt already (I checked the others in koji and no builds were
> underway).
No probl
On Mar 14, 2014 7:52 AM, "Brian Millett" wrote:
>
> What is the prospect of getting mate 1.8 for fedora 20?
Prospect is good.
We're QAing on Rawhide at the moment.
Dan
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On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Philip Prindeville
wrote:
> Did something recently change with the packaging of NetworkManager?
>
> I'm not finding NetworkManager-glib, just NetworkManager-glib-devel:
>
> [root@builder philipp]# yum update
> Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit
> adobe-l
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> Any other DE that wants to meet the requirements for Workstation is similarly
> welcome.
So if we meet the "requirements" exactly what happens?
As far as I understand, all MATE would have to do is use gdm as the
display manager. Is that correc
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Yeah, this idea of having to install GNOME first to be able to install the
> desktop you actually want is totally wacky, and if that is really what we
> recommend to our users, they will run to other distributions (that actually
> support the
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> My point is that it must ALSO be possible to install the preferred desktop
> directly, without installing GNOME first.
Exactly this.
Installing MATE from the spin is not exactly the same thing as
installing it from the netinstall or the DVD
Hi Alex!
Do you have an srpm we can test with?
Dan
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Alexander Aristotle Davis <
aadav...@learn.senecac.on.ca> wrote:
> On 28/11/2012 5:27 PM, Alexander Aristotle Davis wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> I have currently learned that the package rssh has been orphaned and I
You can also try ' repoquery --whatprovides "pkgconfig(haskell98-2.0.0.1)" '
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Ben Boeckel wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 21:45:23 GMT, Jochen Schmitt wrote:
> > Halli,
> >
> > I'm trying to build the kaya package for the rawnide branch of Fedora.
> >
> > Unfort
+1
Did you guys do anything for rpi?
Dan
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I'll do it.
Dan
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Subject: Solicitation: Review Swap
Anyone interested in a p
This IS a rant. And this includes a few analogies. Some good, some bad.
This is one of the reasons why I chose to run for board.
Nobody really knows where Fedora is going. It's like a too many chefs problem.
Sometimes Fedora just feels like a bunch of people/SIGs working independent of
each ot
Kevin,
This is great and is exactly what I was talking about.
Michael,
For the record, yes I run rawhide.
I have Fedora 14,16,17,18 and 19 running here.
Dan
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Please don't speak about things you don't understand.
MATE 1.5 is more stable than 1.4 and was pushed for a reason.
Dan
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On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Hey, folks - I have my desktop on Rawhide now, and on trying to install
> the latest kernel build from Koji today -
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=433327 - the yum
> process seemed to hang indefinitely at ' Cleanup
This is becoming a more regular and annyoing accorance. If you can't get the
dependencies right please hand it over to a provenpackager.
Dan
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Hi Adam,
I apologize if I missed this in your email but Is there a link for Windows
Administrators as to what versions of AD (2000,2003,200877,2012) are supported
and their caveats?
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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:12:03
To:
Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora
Subject: Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail
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Hi Alex this the reply I was looking for. Anyone still running 2k3 I feel
sorry for. 2k8r2 and beyond is the way to go.
Mainly we would be looking at something simple like having your Ad creds
work on Fedora boxes.
Thanks,
Dan
On Jul 24, 2013 10:44 PM, "Alexander Bokovoy" wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Ju
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 05:09:54PM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>> On 25 July 2013 16:59, Billy Crook wrote:
>> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
>> >> Given the amount of time that he spent on the mailing-lis
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> On Thu, 25.07.13 17:59, Billy Crook (billycr...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>> After some reasonable dialog on the issue FESCo meeting, it was clear
>> he wasn't going to immediately get exactly what he wanted without any
>> challenge. So he de
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Dan Mashal
>>
>>
>> Your attitude is atrocious. Go start your own distro. You already
>> ruined ours with systemd and PulseAudio. Stop acting like you own
>
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 6:42 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Lennart Poettering
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> "He" didn't depart from the meeting. He was at dinner with fri
Hi,
After discussion on #fedora-devel, my MATE co-maintainer raveit65,
Kalev, Misc, and previous conversations with Rex, I am ready to retire
ConsoleKit.
LightDM seems to fully support systemd-logind.
However I have no rights to commit to systemd.
Lennart or any proven packager please add the
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 4:24 AM, Christoph Wickert
wrote:
> Am Sonntag, den 28.07.2013, 04:03 -0700 schrieb Dan Mashal:
>> Hi,
>>
>> After discussion on #fedora-devel, my MATE co-maintainer raveit65,
>> Kalev, Misc, and previous conversations with Rex, I am re
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:02 AM, Johannes Lips wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
>>
>> BOn Tue, 30.07.13 16:14, Dan Williams (d...@redhat.com) wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 23:03 +0200, Lars Seipel wrote:
>> > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 04:28:55PM +0200,
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Juan Rodriguez
wrote:
> Hi Devel!
>
> I've recently been approached about one of the packages I maintain, Blueman,
> an alternative Bluetooth Manager.
>
> At the time I packaged it, it was actively being developed, however
> development has stopped for over a year
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Kalev Lember wrote:
> On 08/13/2013 02:28 PM, Rave it wrote:
>> Other probs are:
>> 1. gnome-bluetooth upstream has removed the fallback icon for autostart in
>> session,...no systray icon in other DE than gnome itself.
>> 2. if gnome revert this change in ups
The package currently fails to build and upstream appears to be dead.
Even the working package does not save settings.
https://wiki.gnome.org/GPointingDeviceSettings
https://git.gnome.org/browse/gpointing-device-settings/
Problem: This is a useful package that controls touchpad settings.
I have
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Lars Seipel wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 08:37:19PM -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
>> Otherwise we are looking at possibly reforking gnome-bluetooth at this
>> point in time.
>
> Reforking? And then wait until the bitrot sets in again? ;-)
&
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Lars Seipel wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 08:37:19PM -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
>>> Otherwise we are looking at possibly reforking gnome-bluetooth at this
>>> point in time.
>
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:38 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth
wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
>> Thanks. Turns out ckeditor also had a raw .fla file. I don't know if any
>> package would have a .fla without a .swf, but it might be worth checking
>> for.
>
> Thanks for poi
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Ananda Samaddar wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:46:36 -0700
> Yes they are. Flash is slowly dying though, only to be replaced by DRM
> in html5. Out of the frying pan...
>
> Ananda
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On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> The package currently fails to build and upstream appears to be dead.
> Even the working package does not save settings.
>
> https://wiki.gnome.org/GPointingDeviceSettings
>
> https://git.gnome.org/browse/gpointing-device-set
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Jiri Popelka wrote:
> On 08/16/2013 01:54 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Bill Nottingham
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Underlying dep of libgnomeprint22/libgnomeprintui22, which is used by a
>>> few
>>> end-user things (gpp, conglomerate, gno
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> doxygen (at least for some packages) is creating files like:
>
> _builddir_build_BUILD_torque-3.0.4_src_drmaa_src_.3
>
> that have contents like:
>
> .TH "src Directory Reference" 3 "Fri Aug 16 2013" "Version 3.0.4" "torque"
> \" -*- nroff
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
>> doxygen (at least for some packages) is creating files like:
>>
>> _builddir_build_BUILD_torque-3.0.4_src_drmaa_src_.3
>>
>> that have contents like:
&
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To: Development discussions related to Fedora
Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora
Subject: Re: BlueZ Status in Fedora.
On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 15:10 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:55 AM,
Hi. These packages were obsoleted in MATE 1.6 along with the migration
to gsettings.
libmate
libmateui
libmatecanvas
libmatecomponent
libatecomponentui
libmatenotify
mate-conf (compiz no longer relies on mate-conf)
mate-conf-editor
mate-doc-utils (to be retired in F21 with MATE 1.8)
mate-keyring (
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>
>
>
> On 22 August 2013 13:31, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>>
>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/relnamef20
>>
>> Is this thing for real?
>>
>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/
>> says the End Date is 2013-08-23 23:59
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> I believe that it was decided that like had been done in the past, this
> release would be dedicated to Seth Vidal, but not named after him as Seth
> hated released names with a white hot passion of 10,000 supernovas. [Of
> course he w
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> *smack own forehead* I like that better than the other options also. For me,
> one extra point for Vidalia onion over "20".
>
> Heck I like "Crazy Train" based on a recent Matthew Miller assertion.
>
> Assuming there can be no late add ins th
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
>
> The choices are what the community came up with. At this point, that
> is what we have to chose from.
>
> I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but there are essentiall
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:52 AM, Tomas Babej wrote:
> Hi,
>
> attached is a patch for Fedora comps that adds FreeIPA package group.
>
> Please chime in with any feedback you might have!
>
> --
Comps commit done for f20 and f21.
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On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Greetings.
>
> After consulting with various teams, release engineering has re-enabled
> rawhide composes to create install images again. These images were
> dropped as part of the 'no frozen rawhide' proposal several years ago.
>
> This allows
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Kalev Lember wrote:
> On 09/02/2013 05:44 PM, Kalev Lember wrote:
>> The GNOME 3.9.91 release is coming as well, with a bit unfortunate
>> timing wrt. Fedora freezes. In any case, we'll handle the GNOME 3.9.91
>> builds together and file them as a single megaupdate
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Per:
>
> https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1171
>
> I have added a set of cols to the spins page for f20:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Releases%2F20%2FSpins&diff=352468&oldid=340210
>
> One each for "Alpha" "Beta" and "F
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:39 AM, drago01 wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Michael J Gruber
> wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I can see that thunderbird 24 had been built successfully and then
>> reverted on the fc18 branch (and others). The git commit log and the
>> spec changelog say
>>
>> R
Seems to be working OK here.
Dan
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 6:24 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> I'm seeing this too.
>
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=6024388
>
> -J
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Paul Howarth wrote:
>>
>> I'm seeing this in root.log for all Rawhide builds:
>>
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 15:09:24 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
>
>> Michael Schwendt wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 19:11:41 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> >
>> >> I now see ... the version in f19 was greater than that in f20+rawhide,
>> >> for
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>> On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 15:09:24 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
>>
>>> Michael Schwendt wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 19:11:41 +0200, Ralf Co
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Brian Pepple wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm orphaning Farstream, since it's no longer used in Empathy. I believe
> the only packages that might still depend on it are Pidgin and
> ktp-call-ui.
>
> Thanks,
> /B
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On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> Looking for someone willing to review package needed for supporting
> HD7xxx GPU family in F19
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=927269
>
> Cheers,
> Jerome
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On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Pete Travis wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The docs team has begun assembling release notes for Fedora 19, and I've
> been thinking over hardware requirements.
>
> Historically, we have cited the CPU, storage, and especially memory
> requirements for the default installation
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> John5342 wrote:
>> I think searching applications by default is a stupid idea when that
>> web app is mostly used by packagers
>
> I think it's a stupid idea, period. The default should be to search all
> packages.
>
> Kevin Kofler
>
>
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> On Sun, 2013-04-14 at 02:39 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> > John5342 wrote:
>> >> I think searching applications by default is a stupid idea when tha
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> but Fedora IS NOT RHEL
> if you want the RHEL way use it
>
WHO ARE YOU KIDDING?
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On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Dan Mashal wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon
>> wrote:
>
>>> Blahblahblahb
>>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2013-January/001036.html
>
>>
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
>>
>>
>> It returns you to pkgdb to set acls and the relationships tab gives an
>> error. I was mainly looking at it to manage permissions
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> On Sun, 2013-04-14 at 15:28 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
>> It returns you to pkgdb to set acls and the relationships tab gives an
>> error. I was mainly looking at it to manage permissions (right now).
>
> Packages
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The package barry is used to sync a blackberry device with a desktop. I
> took it over awhile ago when I owned a blackberry. I've since moved on to
> own various other devices and don't see myself returning to a blackberry
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Nathanael Noblet wrote:
>
> On Apr 20, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
>> As a Blackberry owner of the 9930 and the Z10 I will be happy to help.
>
> Perfect, ACLs approved. I started to update to the 0.18.4 release from 0.18.3
> However
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Markus Mayer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have started developing for embedded devices (aka microcontrollers) lately
> (mainly ARM cortex-M3 devices). Although fedora provides some of the needed
> tools, there are still some bits missing to provide a good out-of-the-box
> ex
Seems like someone turned on a bot this morning. Just a heads up..
these have [faf] in the subject line and seem to be filing bugs on old
components (for me at least). Looks like it's just starting to make
the rounds. Who owns this?
Dan
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On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> The F19 DVD is currently *way* over size. (i686: 417MB, x86_64: 311MB).
> That's almost certainly more than can be fixed by trimming around the
> edges; we need to remove actual functionality that's on the DVD.
>
> Options include:
>
> 1) On
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Dan Mashal (dan.mas...@gmail.com) said:
>> I think we should look at package dependencies. It seems that lots of
>> unnecessary packages are being pulled when composing media.
>
> Here's everything new in the F19
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Robert Relyea wrote:
>> Thunderbird is new? Drop it.
>
> Hardly new since I've been using it on Fedora for 8 years now.
>
> bob
>
>
New to the DVD.
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Ben Cotton wrote:
> It's entirely possible that someone who is downloading the DVD
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> (batching a couple of replies)
>
> That would be up to the Cinnamon maintainer, who is the one that
> is including it.
>
As cinnamon comaintainer and MATE maintainer I'll switch them both to
evolution today.
Dan
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On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:45 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
wrote:
> On 05/03/2013 01:40 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>>
> Why not just make the assumption that administrators will use the netinstall
> and or ks and desktop users will use live spins?
>
> JBG
>
I used to use the DVD at one point as a u
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> I'd like to get trac10 (trac 1.0.1) into EL-6 sooner rather than later, so
> I'll take one of yours in return. Thanks!
>
> -J
>
> --
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>
> in your fear,
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote:
>> > I'd like to get trac10 (trac 1.0.1) into EL-6 sooner rather than later,
>>
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Hm, I've always thought of it differently - if we're trying to provide good
> value in the DVD media as a demonstration of all the things you can do with
> Fedora
It did. Until I couldn't install multiple desktops anymore. (18)
>Isn't the
Hi,
In the latest Fedora 19 Beta TC2 install after I got through the
initial steps of the install I started to setup my root password.
To my surprise my password was shown in plain text instead of bullets.
I believe that this is a major security risk and that this is a new UI
change going forwar
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> On May 3, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Dan Mashal wrote:
>>
>> I believe that this is a major security risk and that this is a new UI
>> change going forward and this is not a bug.
>>
>> Do you think this is a g
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 8:40 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
> I didn't notice this the last time I did an install. But yes, it's a
> *problem* if it does that. I'll upvote or whatever if someone re-opens; I do
> so many installs in coffee shops that I would flat out not use a distro that
> did t
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
> Yet another case of trying to "fix" what isn't broken.
>
> Are any of the several who closed the bug more than 20 years old?
>
> Crazy is the unexpected behavior of echoing back typed password characters.
> Where else, if anywhere, is this happe
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 11:11:56PM -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> On 05/03/2013 10:59 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>> >Many UI decisions are unprecedented. That doesn't justify
>> >reopening bugs that the maintainer has closed. If you want to
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 08:52:25PM -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
>> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>> > And if the maintainers feel more than justified in closing it again?
>> > Bugzilla i
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 11:55:24PM -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> On 05/03/2013 11:51 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>> >And if the maintainers feel more than justified in closing it again?
>> Hopefully, they will reconsider their decision befo
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Seriously. Learn to trim or I'm never reading email from you again.
Is this better? Quite frankly I could care less whether you read my
email or not.
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On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> If you want to change a decision, it helps if you're discussing it in a
> forum that's read by the people who made that decision.
Anaconda developers don't read the developer list? That's terrible!
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Matthew
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Pete Zaitcev wrote:
> This is a perfectly appropriate forum where their authority for
> making this decision is to be discussed before it's revoked if
> necessary.
Hi Pete. Thanks for your very helpful reply. You mentioned something
VERY important, so now I have a
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Bruno Wolff III said:
>> It's not like the people entering the password don't know it is visible.
>
> Actually, yes it is. The vast majority of other software that accepts
> passwords for any reason hides the passwords as th
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Michael Scherer wrote:
> and I think that even Bruce Schneier have gave his opinion in favor of
> the proposal :
> http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/the_problem_wit_2.html
> http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/07/the_pros_and_co.html
Which he lat
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> You posted this on friday afternoon, Rauhl re-opened the bug
> friday night. I suspect many anaconda folks have not even seen this
> discussion or the bug reopening yet. Is there some massive hurry here?
No.
> Lets see what anaconda developers
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> For the record:
>
> commit da565b769979a031f318dbc727b9888e4f1fb37c
> Author: Chris Lumens
> Date: Mon May 6 17:18:30 2013 -0400
>
> Revert "Add signal handlers for controlling password entry
> visibility." (#958608).
>
> This rev
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Igor Gnatenko
wrote:
> I use mock to local build packages.
> I was build control-center in mock. But always error...
> How I fix it ?
> GEN gnome-control-center.1
> I/O error : Attempt to load network entity
> http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/curren
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Igor Gnatenko
wrote:
> I use original .spec file. It in attachment.
Why are you using an unreleased git source?
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On Wednesday, May 8, 2013, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 10:10 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
> > On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 09:03:02PM -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
> > > Let's be realistic here. The precedence they have recently set is they
> > > make de
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Fedora Branched Report
wrote:
> Compose started at Wed May 8 09:15:02 UTC 2013
>
> Broken deps for x86_64
> --
> [byzanz]
> byzanz-0.3-0.5.fc17.x86_64 requires libpanel-applet-4.so.0()(64bit)
> [cinnam
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Tom Callaway wrote:
> It appears to be needed by only:
> byzanz - optional panel applet, update building right now.
> cinnamon-menu-editor - Not sure why this depends on gnome-panel.
> gnome-applet-sensors - probably should be blocked.
> openbox - Should disable gdm
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> We did, because GNOME no longer uses gnome-panel. All those packages
> that require gnome-panel are applets, which are just as useless without
> gnome-panel. If you want to keep gnome-panel alive for some reason
> (although you already have
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Luya Tshimbalanga
wrote:
> -1. Design Suite package is for those lacking online access and wanting to
> use available applications.
I see a lot of stupid justifications for "lacking online access". AN
ENTIRE SPIN is not enough?
Would you like us to mail you the s
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Luya Tshimbalanga
wrote:
> You can call "lacking online access" justification stupid if you want,
> you forgot there are users who still prefer DVD installation rather than
> spin. You wanted to remove the entire Design suite package set
> (available since several
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> We now appear to have *four* virtual provides for mail servers:
>
> MTA
> smtpd
> smtpdaemon
> server(smtp)
>
> This seems a tad excessive. exim and postfix provide all four. sendmail
> provides MTA, smtpdaemon and server(smtp). Nothing els
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:52 PM, John J. McDonough wrote:
> We had a short discussion of this at this morning's meeting but felt a
> broader discussion here was warranted.
>
> When preparing the Release Notes, we often ask the developers for wiki
> input, and generally come up dry. More recently,
On May 21, 2013 11:50 AM, "Adam Williamson" wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 14:25 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > So I'm writing a blog post on this topic ATM, and that really kinda
> > brought home how messy this design is at present.
>
> So! I've been poking through the logic of this for the
What is the status of this?
Is this still filing bug reports?
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