Re: popularity package context on fedora

2010-05-04 Thread Björn Persson
ean for download statistics to be on or off by default? How would a user override the default? Would there be an option in Yum that would let the user choose whether their downloads should be counted? Would that choice be communicated in every HTTP or FTP request? Björn Persson signature.asc Des

Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-09 Thread Björn Persson
table and updates repositories together without it breaking quite a lot? What is the DVD, if not a subset of the stable repository with higher bandwidth? Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.

Re: systemd (Was Re: tmpfs for strategic directories)

2010-05-26 Thread Björn Persson
r some descendant process may get the same PID as the original daemon, and may try to handle LISTEN_FDS. The risk may be low, but I always prefer a solution that is guaranteed to work over one that mostly works. Once a lot of programs start using this it will be difficult to change it, so

Re: systemd (Was Re: tmpfs for strategic directories)

2010-06-02 Thread Björn Persson
Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 26.05.10 22:06, Björn Persson (bj...@rombobjörn.se) wrote: > > This suggests to me that environment variables isn't the right way to do > > this. Environment variables are good for parameters that should be > > available to ma

Re: move libusb from /usr/lib to /lib

2010-06-26 Thread Björn Persson
tween your UPS and your computer equipment, the UPS would then sense (if it has this feature) that the load has dropped to a very low value. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Licensing Guidelines Update - Please Read

2010-07-12 Thread Björn Persson
e missing link options, so now there are automatic dependencies. > You will also suffer a horrible horrible curse. Taken from here I presume: > [mlichvar] ncurses: ncurses-base-5.7-7.20100130.fc13.x86_64 Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message pa

Re: Licensing Guidelines Update - Please Read

2010-07-12 Thread Björn Persson
d in RPM to locate the applicable license > texts while traversing /usr/share/doc/ . Another way would be to have symbolic links named after the subpackages, pointing to the directory named after the source package. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed messag

Re: [Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines

2015-07-10 Thread Björn Persson
is contained in the package that fulfills the dependency, not in the dependent package, so “fulfill” makes your sentence collapse into a redundant statement that the packages being installed will be installed. Björn Persson pgprBRIKeTPks.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- devel mai

Re: dnssec-trigger + GNOME + NetworkManager integration

2015-07-10 Thread Björn Persson
ficates that allow browsers to assure the user that the website belongs to a particular company or other entity, whereas DANE only ties the public key to the domain name. Maybe some time in the distant future, when DNSsec is nearly ubiquitous, browsers can start rejecting case C+D0 to give the las

Re: dnssec-trigger + GNOME + NetworkManager integration

2015-07-10 Thread Björn Persson
nt that there is a problem with the local domain.) If Gnome 3 has no option to disable validation, but the current DNSsec-trigger applet remains available and discoverable to people like me, then that's fine with me. Björn Persson pgpnoe3dBypHp.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital s

Re: Is %autosetup another unwanted baby of Fedora?

2015-07-13 Thread Björn Persson
uld it be that maintainers don't see a pressing need to change their working packages just for the sake of introducing autosetup, but have slowly begun using it when they're overhauling the spec and patches anyway? Björn Persson pgpXfkKApJkmt.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital s

Re: [HEADS UP] rpm-4.12.90 in rawhide

2015-07-30 Thread Björn Persson
en't necessarily C programmers. Especially the conditional operator from C – the question mark and colon – is quite unintuitive. People who don't already know the C syntax are unlikely to understand it without some teaching. Björn Persson pgpm7vZDrYKkT.pgp Descriptio

Re: [HEADS UP] rpm-4.12.90 in rawhide

2015-07-30 Thread Björn Persson
maintain all three kinds? Languages that support many alternative syntax variants tend to get difficult to read. Different programmers will use different syntaxes and then have trouble reading each other's code. It's a lot of pain for very little gain. Björn Persson pgp8DZi7hJ5JF.pgp Desc

Re: [HEADS UP] rpm-4.12.90 in rawhide

2015-07-30 Thread Björn Persson
012 syntax be adopted in RPM. It's easy to read, unambiguous and expressive. The formal specification can be found at http://www.adaic.org/resources/add_content/standards/12rm/html/RM-4-5-7.html (Ada 2012 also has another kind of conditional expressions: case expressions analogous to c

Re: Firefox addon signing

2015-08-28 Thread Björn Persson
folks are free to choose whether to do it or not. I wonder if there will be any packagers interested in maintaining extensions for Seamonkey and Icecat if packaged extensions will no longer work in Firefox. Björn Persson pgpdW7GNLX3ay.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- devel mailing l

Re: Firefox addon signing

2015-08-28 Thread Björn Persson
adblockplus.org/ it says "It's free! (GPLv3)", so that would be contradictory. Björn Persson pgpM8ycA6Yy19.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: when DEP-3 compliant patches in Fedora?

2015-08-28 Thread Björn Persson
licy on this? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Patch_Guidelines Björn Persson pgpCWN5xlLwGf.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: when DEP-3 compliant patches in Fedora?

2015-08-28 Thread Björn Persson
Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > W dniu 28.08.2015 o 14:32, Björn Persson pisze: > > Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > > > Have you read the existent policy on this? > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Patch_Guidelines > > Yes, I have read it. But lot o

Re: Removing packages that have broken dependencies in F23 tree

2015-09-24 Thread Björn Persson
e worked before, but currently it seems to be broken. I don't know enough about Texlive to solve it quickly. Björn Persson From 893d0db744f4ddbe9c6d686f6a4337b5fdba5e98 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: =?UTF-8?q?Bj=C3=B6rn=20Persson?= Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 23:52:08 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] M

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-10-04 Thread Björn Persson
his pthread_create is found before the one in the Pthreads library. The Ada Milter API isn't currently in Fedora. The thread wrapper can be seen here: https://www.rombobjörn.se/git/adamilter/tree/thread_wrapper/thread_wrapper.c Björn Persson pgp1ZD3aeRLKb.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: ANNOUNCE: Taking over ownership of retired package lazygal

2014-07-20 Thread Björn Persson
Javascript would turn out. I see that Lazygal now bundles Javascript source instead of minified files, which is an improvement, but it's still bundled Javascript which is now forbidden in Fedora as far as I understand. How are you planning to handle this? -- Björn Persson signature.asc

Broken routing table with the latest Fedora kernel

2014-08-03 Thread Björn Persson
uting table. I didn't see anything obvious in the system log, but as full of junk as the log is I may have missed something. It would help if somebody could point me in the right direction before I start spending days I don't have on debugging this. -- Björn Persson signature.asc D

Re: Non-responsive maintainer Gérard Milmeister

2014-08-10 Thread Björn Persson
at no one else wanted at the time. -- Björn Persson signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Proposal: Increasing application icon sizes to 64px

2014-10-01 Thread Björn Persson
s what you want, then «if [ -d "$RPM_BUILD_ROOT"/usr/share/applications/ ]; then» would be much less confusing code. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code o

Re: Proposal: Increasing application icon sizes to 64px

2014-10-01 Thread Björn Persson
Kalev Lember wrote: > On 10/01/2014 03:07 PM, Björn Persson wrote: > > Kalev Lember wrote: > >> # If no desktop files are installed, return immediately > >> if ! ls -A "$RPM_BUILD_ROOT"/usr/share/applications/ 2>/dev/null; then > >>exit 0

Re: Virtual network interface

2014-11-07 Thread Björn Persson
use they don't know what it is. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Virtual network interface

2014-11-08 Thread Björn Persson
Tomasz Torcz wrote: >On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 03:37:53PM +0100, Björn Persson wrote: >> Vít Ondruch wrote: >> > * I don't understand why my Xchat should loose connection, when I >> > am switching from ethernet to WiFi (and they are both available >> > du

Re: FESCO request to revert password confirmation change in F22

2015-03-06 Thread Björn Persson
ious paragraph you wrote that it does matter. It seems that what you're actually arguing is that the threshold should be very low. Björn Persson pgpGQzcIqmkbn.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: FESCO request to revert password confirmation change in F22

2015-03-06 Thread Björn Persson
discussion for this might as well start now -or- at least early enough > > so it's not too late for F-23. > > Indeed. I'll bring this back to fesco to find someone to head this up. I hope https://xkcd.com/936/ will be among the inputs to that discussion. Björn Persson pgpV

Re: FESCO request to revert password confirmation change in F22

2015-03-07 Thread Björn Persson
Mike Pinkerton wrote: > On 6 Mar 2015, at 23:49, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 23:09 +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > >> I hope https://xkcd.com/936/will be among the inputs to that > >> discussion. > > > > I'm fond of noting that p

Re: FESCO request to revert password confirmation change in F22

2015-03-07 Thread Björn Persson
that an attack on the disk encryption can be parallelized, while attempts to unlock the console can not. Björn Persson pgpHNKme0WuDc.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: FESCO request to revert password confirmation change in F22

2015-03-08 Thread Björn Persson
Mike Pinkerton wrote: > On 7 Mar 2015, at 10:41, Björn Persson wrote: > > Mike Pinkerton wrote: > >> On 6 Mar 2015, at 23:49, Adam Williamson wrote: > >>> On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 23:09 +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > >>>> I hope https://xkcd.com/936/ will

Re: FESCO request to revert password confirmation change in F22

2015-03-08 Thread Björn Persson
tly, they can successfully crack a ridiculously high > percentage (90% in the Ars Technica experiment) in the space of a day > using other techniques. Because a ridiculously high percentage of passwords are badly chosen. Björn Persson pgpwKO6nTL5fN.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

some differences between "doc" stuff and "license" stuff

2015-03-08 Thread Björn Persson
ists. · RPMlint warns about CRLF line terminators under /usr/share/doc but not under /usr/share/licenses. Björn Persson pgppv17j6Kk3n.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora

Re: FESCO request to revert password confirmation change in F22

2015-03-09 Thread Björn Persson
the company can read. Or even source control systems that everyone in the *world* can read: http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/03/ubers-epic-db-blunder-is-hardly-an-exception-github-is-awash-in-passwords/ Björn Persson pgpi1R6k9DyHC.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur --

Re: FESCO request to revert password confirmation change in F22

2015-03-10 Thread Björn Persson
hnica articles that have been discussed in this thread, or else you believe that a majority of users of all sorts of web services think it's all right if all the spies and script kiddies in the world have full access to their accounts. Björn Persson pgpTJmoZV1fI6.pgp Description: OpenPGP di

Re: FESCO request to revert password confirmation change in F22

2015-03-10 Thread Björn Persson
Björn Persson wrote: > Kevin Kofler wrote: > > The user surely knows better what a good password is than the > > software does. If the user picks a crappy password, there's probably a good > > reason. > > There are two possible reasons why you would say that. Eit

MySQL++ license correction

2015-03-14 Thread Björn Persson
The license tags of the mysql++ package have been corrected from LGPLv2 to LGPLv2+ on the library itself, and to LGPLv2+ and LDPL on mysql++-manuals. The actual licenses are unchanged. Björn Persson pgpHaMlB7GfS8.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- devel mailing list devel

Re: dnf replacing yum and dnf-yum

2015-04-09 Thread Björn Persson
top of DNF's internal architecture, then it would be better to say that. If you mean that DNF will duplicate the most commonly used of Yum's features, then please say that. If you mean that whenever DNF happens to have a feature that works similarly to one of Yum's featu

Re: Roaming, and libresolv being stuck in the 1980's mindset

2015-04-18 Thread Björn Persson
at libresolv will only ever query the resolver daemon on the local host, and has no need to check for updates to resolv.conf. Some installations may be able to rely on a trusted DNS server doing the validation for them, but then their resolv.conf is static, so again there is no need to check for

Re: Roaming, and libresolv being stuck in the 1980's mindset

2015-04-18 Thread Björn Persson
puter on any of the networks that your packets pass through, not just from your default gateway. For most protocols the way to prevent them is to use TLS or IPsec. Man-in-the-middle attacks on DNS resolution is prevented with DNSsec. Björn Persson pgpReJVRxO5LT.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatu

Re: Roaming, and libresolv being stuck in the 1980's mindset

2015-04-21 Thread Björn Persson
Philip Prindeville wrote: > The behavior I’ve seen implies that [Thunderbird] caches the address > from the original resolution and keeps trying to reconnect to that. Well, if it would cache the address for longer than its time to live, then it would be doing it wrong. Björn P

Re: Removing packages that have broken dependencies in F22 tree

2015-04-28 Thread Björn Persson
af > templates_parseroenone, landgraf I'm trying to get permission to help with these. Most of them look like they just need to be rebuilt or can be fixed fairly easily. Björn Persson pgpyUmdi8yIrk.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedora

Re: Removing packages that have broken dependencies in F22 tree

2015-04-29 Thread Björn Persson
Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Björn Persson > wrote: > > Kalev Lember wrote: > >>Package (co)maintainers > >> > >> aunit landgra

Re: Removing packages that have broken dependencies in F22 tree

2015-04-30 Thread Björn Persson
et the the fixes built/landed. All > the dependencies are in the f22-override for the next day or so. Thanks to the override of Templates Parser I could figure out the problem with AWS. When I tried to scratch-build the fix the override had already expired, but I think this pat

Re: Removing packages that have broken dependencies in F22 tree

2015-05-02 Thread Björn Persson
be built · and a better workaround for the libgnat version issue that really should get in before the release. Björn Persson diff --git a/gnatcoll-2013-visibility.patch b/gnatcoll-2013-visibility.patch new file mode 100644 index 000..61ab243 --- /dev/null +++ b/gnatcoll-2013-visibility.patch @@ -

Re: Removing packages that have broken dependencies in F22 tree

2015-05-04 Thread Björn Persson
Peter Robinson wrote: > On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Björn Persson wrote: > > OK, here we go: > > · one patch to Gnatcoll for GCC 5 > > · one patch to Matreshka for GCC 5 > > · another patch to build Matreshka in spite of bug 1151793 > > · one fix to GPRbuil

Re: F23 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2015-06-02 Thread Björn Persson
definitely not assume that there won't ever be any adversaries in the local network when it doesn't know anything about the local network. There should therefore be a local validating DNS resolver by default, and good documentation on how to replace it with trusted external resolvers for

Re: Bodhi: "how to install" is supposed to work?

2020-06-02 Thread Björn Persson
please try again later. It should normally not take longer than _." Having the package available when the notification is sent would be better though. Björn Persson pgpK1_HOAvzsQ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing lis

Re: A few questions about a package update / policy questions / GCC 9 error

2020-06-11 Thread Björn Persson
ppen to be using Glib, use g_strlcpy. Otherwise use Peter's snprintf solution, but DO NOT make the mistake of passing the input as the format string! And choose a better language than C for your next project. Björn Persson pgpUai9i5B_si.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur __

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Use %make_build and %make_install macros

2020-06-20 Thread Björn Persson
version of the macro may include other parameters that are considered useful in a build stage but may not be appropriate for other use cases? In that case the macro should only be applied in the %build section, and any make invocation that looks less than typical should be left alone. Björn Persson

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Use %make_build and %make_install macros

2020-06-22 Thread Björn Persson
. It's often tempting to do the easy thing instead of the right thing. Björn Persson pgpWHSF2JHpRj.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lis

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Use %make_build and %make_install macros

2020-06-22 Thread Björn Persson
Tom Stellard wrote: > On 06/22/2020 10:00 AM, Björn Persson wrote: > > Tom Stellard wrote: > >> The reason I put in the proposal that all make invocations would be > >> updated, > >> is because this is easier to script and it would be hard for someone who &

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-01 Thread Björn Persson
be too surprised if people believe that you're proposing to stop supporting BIOS and support only UEFI. Björn Persson pgpifrbSgXICa.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubs

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-01 Thread Björn Persson
to know what to type or you'd be stuck. Information for others like me who haven't seen Lilo since Grub came along: Apparently development of Lilo continued until just five years ago, and it grew a menu at some point. I guess that menu is the image of user-friendliness that Johann wa

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: RPM-level auto release and changelog bumping - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal

2020-07-02 Thread Björn Persson
key/value file will be committed to Git from inside Koji? Do the Koji builders have write access to Git? > commit the new build event timestamp in > the detached changelog file at %build time %build is executed once per arch, on different builders, so which builder's timestamp get

Re: Is allowed in certain cases to override default Fedora compiler flags?

2020-07-02 Thread Björn Persson
ey find that burdensome, then that's because they made a bad choice of programming language. Björn Persson pgp7dztvU6yd2.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: Is allowed in certain cases to override default Fedora compiler flags?

2020-07-02 Thread Björn Persson
ood reason". As I understand it, Sergio's question is whether this case is a good reason. In my opinion, incorrect use of snprintf and write are bad reasons for overriding the compiler flags. It's better to fix the actual problem than to silence the alarm. Björn

Re: Is allowed in certain cases to override default Fedora compiler flags?

2020-07-02 Thread Björn Persson
it should be done by tweaking the code to silence the compiler warning for that call only. Disabling -Wunused-result for the whole program is not a good idea. Björn Persson pgpmAzjiNZ85n.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- deve

Re: use of 'date' in rpm .spec %define concats add'l str chars?

2020-07-03 Thread Björn Persson
PGNet Dev wrote: > %define _build_timestamp %( date +%Y%m%d_%H%M%S ) Percent signs that are not to be interpreted as RPM syntax need to be doubled. Write this as: %define _build_timestamp %(date +%%Y%%m%%d_%%H%%M%%S) Björn Persson pgpSR1gksDcHm.pgp Description: OpenPGP digi

Can we do away with release and changelog bumping? (was: RPM-level auto release and changelog bumping - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal)

2020-07-05 Thread Björn Persson
, ignoring the buildtag. The buildtag would distinguish between different builds of the same version-release. What flaws can you all find in this idea? Björn Persson pgpIGk2i3K6iH.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@l

Re: Can we do away with release and changelog bumping?

2020-07-05 Thread Björn Persson
Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > Le dimanche 05 juillet 2020 à 17:46 +0200, Björn Persson a écrit : > > It seems that several problems would just disappear if a rebuild > > would generate a unique package ID without a Git commit. > > That’s exacly what the change does.

Re: Can we do away with release and changelog bumping?

2020-07-06 Thread Björn Persson
Florian Weimer wrote: > * Björn Persson: > > > The macro could be defined like this for example: > > > > %buildtag .%(date +%%s) > > Using time for synchronization is always a bit iffy. Well, if somebody manages to build a package twice within a second, usi

Re: Can we do away with release and changelog bumping?

2020-07-06 Thread Björn Persson
rrently it sits deployed in staging koji, > so you can give it a test-drive :-) What will the release value be when a package that uses autorel is built with fedpkg local? Or fedpkg mockbuild? Björn Persson pgpbSFrl37n3U.pgp Description: OpenPG

Re: Primary Architectures: Another Proposal (RFC)

2012-04-08 Thread Björn Persson
e build has completed, then the right solution is to change the user interface of Bodhi to allow that. An even better solution might be a combined interface where you could start a set of builds and submit the update information as a single operation. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: Th

Re: SSH connection problem and possible buffer overflow

2012-05-11 Thread Björn Persson
SSH server, then I'd suspect the firewall. Many firewalls have a bad habit of mangling data and violating protocols. Is it possible for you to see what it looks like from the server side? For example, does the SSH server crash or does it also receive an RST packet? Björn Persson signatur

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-03 Thread Björn Persson
ing that I haven't checked the PGP signature on. That excludes netinst.iso and Preupgrade, and if I use Anaconda I have to be careful to not let it download anything. Therefore I usually upgrade by Yum. That's also a laborious process, but I usually get a mostly working system in the

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-03 Thread Björn Persson
started doing that.) Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-03 Thread Björn Persson
Josh Boyer wrote: > On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Björn Persson > wrote: > > Tomasz Torcz wrote: > >> You can write .iso image to USB key¹ and boot from it, you know. > > > > Even the installation DVD images? What I've heard is that that only works &g

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-04 Thread Björn Persson
just Sweden. Note 2: Yes there are reusable optical media, so user's don't need to buy new discs every time they upgrade Fedora. None the less, the more people use optical media, the more optical media will be sold in total, and the more money will flow to the copyright lobby. Björn Pe

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-04 Thread Björn Persson
Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 19:56 +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > > I also won't install anything that I haven't checked the PGP signature > > on. That excludes netinst.iso and Preupgrade, and if I use Anaconda I > > have to be careful to not let

Laptop screen stuck on very low brightness

2012-06-07 Thread Björn Persson
brightness back up. Which package should I report this against? Linux? X? Plymouth? Or something else? Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Laptop screen stuck on very low brightness

2012-06-07 Thread Björn Persson
bar grows and shrinks, but the brightness is not affected. > Does `xbacklight` work? All xbacklight commands I try (except for "xbacklight -help") cause the screen to flash once and return zero. Even "xbacklight -get" causes a flash, prints nothing, and returns zero. Bjö

Re: (re)starting of a daemon after package update

2012-06-20 Thread Björn Persson
sure that the new library is in place. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: DNS handling

2012-06-21 Thread Björn Persson
cache when even HTTPS is blocked. Perhaps dual-view setups like mine should simply use a short TTL to minimize the problem. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: PATH=/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin considered harmful

2012-06-23 Thread Björn Persson
cludes that the installation prefix is /, and looks for its data in /share instead of /usr/share, which of course fails because there is no /share. Working around this required a Fedora-specific patch to make GPRbuild resolve the symbolic link. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This

Re: Self Introduction

2012-06-23 Thread Björn Persson
would like to see on > Fedora. Hi Julian, and welcome! We can certainly need another Ada packager. It will be great to have GPS in Fedora, but it's brave of you to do that as your first Fedora package. I haven't dared to tackle GPS myself yet. Björn Persson signature.asc Descript

Re: DNS handling

2012-06-23 Thread Björn Persson
Paul Wouters wrote: > Let me know how dnssec-trigger 0.11 works, with the additional > hotspot port 80 manglign detection. I'm afraid my laptop isn't all that usable right now – https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832723 – but I'll see what I can do. Björn Pe

Re: Couldn't we enable 256 colors by default on TERM?

2012-06-26 Thread Björn Persson
have to translate "xterm-256color" to "xterm", "screen-256color" to "screen" et cetera. Simply setting TERM=xterm in all SSH sessions is probably not sufficient. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- de

How do I check for a package in Rawhide?

2012-07-07 Thread Björn Persson
When fedpkg chain-build fails with the message "Unsuccessfully waited 120:09 for GtkAda-2.24.2-1.fc18 to appear in the f18-build repo", how can I check later whether the package has appeared yet so that I can build the next package in the dependency chain? Björn Persson sig

Re: How do I check for a package in Rawhide?

2012-07-07 Thread Björn Persson
Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 19:50:41 +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > > When fedpkg chain-build fails with the message "Unsuccessfully waited > > 120:09 for GtkAda-2.24.2-1.fc18 to appear in the f18-build repo", how > > can I check later whether the pac

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

2014-03-06 Thread Björn Persson
>> to start listing marginalized groups in Europe, Asia and Africa >> (that might be offensive in and of itself), but they exist and >> would be accorded the same courtesy. >> > >(Also Australia, sorry. Not ignored on purpose.) I think I can leave >

Re: Per-Product Config file divergence

2014-03-10 Thread Björn Persson
fective when the link is changed. But then the program that is to read the configuration file must be able to handle such a setup. Björn Persson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTHlzFAAoJEOE4WtzWSuY/TA0P/0qaZ52Z3ZyZ0xn/+H+DRCOl SPaFT2h8asuDgn/NooHbf

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread Björn Persson
enabled on everybody else's, so that the admins will be the first to discover a problem – and that translates to an argument for having a cache by default. -- Björn Persson signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-13 Thread Björn Persson
lients to cache the records for five minutes. They can set the TTL to zero if they want the servers to be queried for every single lookup. And if they're migrating a system they will know this more than five minutes in advance, so they can set a zero TTL temporarily. -- Björn Persson sign

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-04 Thread Björn Persson
specifies either. Does Posix specify this for example? Does anyone have a link? -- Björn Persson signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Incorrect order of /usr/bin and /usr/sbin in path

2014-05-04 Thread Björn Persson
Reindl Harald wrote: >Am 04.05.2014 18:54, schrieb Björn Persson: >> Reindl Harald wrote: >>> no, in general /usr/sbin is supposed to come before /usr/bin >>> and any software assuming the opposite has a bug >>> >>> Am 04.05.2014 18:11, schrieb Ankur Si

Re: ORPHAN of mysql and python stuff

2014-05-31 Thread Björn Persson
dora, but it would probably be better maintained by someone who uses it more actively. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: ORPHAN of mysql and python stuff

2014-06-02 Thread Björn Persson
Remi Collet wrote: >Le 01/06/2014 00:30, Björn Persson a écrit : >> Remi Collet wrote: >>> Because of lack of interest, I plan to orphan the following >>> packages (Fedora + EPEL) >>> >>> mysql++ (3.1.0 in rawhide, 3.2.1 available) >> &

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-14 Thread Björn Persson
and I want APIs to be as stable as possible so I can spend my time writing new programs instead of rewriting old programs just to keep existing functionality. It's particularly painful when a program must be ported or branched to work on different systems, for example Fedora and RHEL, because

Re: F22 System Wide Change: Replace Yum With DNF

2014-06-15 Thread Björn Persson
Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Björn Persson > wrote: >> As a system administrator I expect "yum install", "yum remove" and >> "yum update" to continue to work, and I expect to not have to rename >> or edit /etc/

Re: Unexpected NIC naming f23 firewall implications

2015-11-08 Thread Björn Persson
on the upside you get meaningful names so that you won't have any trouble remembering which interface is which. (I hope no one turns Udev inside out anytime soon.) Björn Persson pgpgMhd_r3Uqq.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Unexpected NIC naming f23 firewall implications

2015-11-08 Thread Björn Persson
eliable, unless you have configured your own names and ensured that your configuration overrides anything else that tries to rename interfaces. Björn Persson pgp8A3EEsZJ74.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.or

Re: Unexpected NIC naming f23 firewall implications

2015-11-11 Thread Björn Persson
Harald Hoyer wrote: > Am 08.11.2015 um 17:14 schrieb Björn Persson: > > Christopher wrote: > >> I recently updated my desktop to f23, and it went smoothly, for the most > >> part. However, it broke my mediatomb server because the NIC changed from > >> em1 to

Can Koji handle a soname change and a self-dependency?

2015-11-28 Thread Björn Persson
, which requires libL.so.1 because it hasn't been rebuilt yet. As I understand it, when the L-2 package goes into the buildroot it immediately replaces L-1. Is there a way to keep L-1 available until B has been rebuilt? Is the answer to link B statically? Björn Persson pgpJFe0_PJnPK.pgp Descri

Re: Can Koji handle a soname change and a self-dependency?

2015-12-01 Thread Björn Persson
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 00:35:37 +0100 > Björn Persson wrote: > > > Is there a way to deal with the following situation in Koji? > > > > · Build tool B has a build-time dependency on itself. > > · B is linked to library L version 1. > >

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2015-12-01 Thread Björn Persson
Tomas Hozza wrote: > - dnssec-trigger does not do the Captive Portal detection and handling and > we rather rely on NM for the detection and on Gnome Shell for the Portal > login Can I assume that users of non-Gnome desktops will also be able to log in to a portal if they want t

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Fedora 24 Boost 1.60 uplift

2015-12-03 Thread Björn Persson
's a major release with new prominent features, then it's an upgrade. It brings you software of a higher "grade" in some sense (although all too often it can feel like a downgrade when there's workflow breakage or an assortment of new bugs). Between these clear-cut cases l

Re: Can Koji handle a soname change and a self-dependency?

2015-12-07 Thread Björn Persson
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 15:46:26 +0100 > Björn Persson wrote: > > GPRbuild is > > linked to XMLada, and both GPRbuild and XMLada are linked to libgnat, > > as are all other Ada programs and libraries. > > > > With every major GCC upgrade th

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2015-12-07 Thread Björn Persson
in under their > DHCP-configured hostnames. It implements a DNS proxy otherwise, only > synthesizing A/ RRs for *.box. Now, one can certainly argue that > this is borked, since the manufacturer doesn't own the ".box" domain, I wonder what they were plann

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