I'm trying to find out what's going on with Java in Fedora. Fedora 31 was
released with a broken Eclipse. I subscribe to the java-devel mailing list but
there is no traffic there. If I go to "Join a Group" and click on "J" there is
simply nothing there...
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/account
> As has been discussed time and time again on this mailing list, the last
> member of the Java SIG left it at the end of 2018, leaving the group emptIy.
I'd be willing to work on that if I can figure out how to recreate the group.
Can you point me in the right direction?
> There are several FA
That's a very sad story. I had no idea. So it sounds like you mainly need
maintainers for Java packages. I have worked on building RPMs but I have never
been a package maintainer. However I have 20 years of experience as a Java
developer, so I'm pretty confident I can be helpful. How should I go
No problem. I like hearing peoples' opinions.
I will look for a package that might be a good starting point.
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I think that by applying basic engineering techniques like user testing we can
weed out ideologies that don't provide any value to users. Do the testing and
let the results decide.The principles of ISO 9000 can be applied to improve
products. There are also metrics that can measure how good a us
I appreciate the sensibility of your suggestion but I'm afraid that I enjoy the
aggravation of my love/hate relationship with Gnome too much. You got me
thinking though.
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So I need to fix something that is a one-person job to get started.
On Sunday, January 26, 2020, 4:04:06 PM EST, Felix Schwarz
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Am 26.01.20 um 01:10 schrieb Bill Chatfield via devel:
> That's a very sad story. I had no idea. So it sounds like you mainly need
> main
I hear what you're saying. But I am undeterred. :-)
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I will do that. Thanks.
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Yea, I understand what you're saying.
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Great info. Thanks! It's always more complicated than I first imagine. :-)
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> Well, I don't know if its indicative of what they use for development,
> but at Red Hat Summit last year, *all* the Java middleware demos were
> on macOS.
That is frustrating and I don't like it. But, I suppose it makes since if their
customers are using Macs to do development work and then dep
I understand it can be done. But in the past getting something to work in wine
is a guessing game. The instructions don't work. Winetricks doesn't get you to
a functioning game and PlayOnLinux was for a long time non-functional in Fedora
as the windows would not display properly. So getting a si
> You're right. The Java SIG was not organised around an account group,
> so it does not exist. I don't know why it is that way, but that could
> easily be fixed - other language interest groups are organised this
> way, after all (python-sig, go-sig, ruby-sig, etc.).
I don't really understand wha
I have chosen a delinquent Java package to work fix. But I need some help
understanding what's going on. Groovy is failing to build because it depends on
gradle-local which doesn't exist. But gradle-local did exist at one time
because groovy was successfully build with it on 2019-07-30. So, wher
On Monday, January 27, 2020, 3:58:07 AM EST, Fabio Valentini
wrote: > Depending on what you want to achieve, I think
I can give you better "first package to work on" suggestions :)
Yes, please give me some suggestions. I thought I had found one with few
dependencies but looks like it's
That is a very helpful explanation. I do have a lot of repos configured but
most are necessary. Some are now added by gnome-software.
_copr_phracek-PyCharm.repo fedora-updates.repo
rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver.repo
dropbox.repo fedora-updates-testing-modular
I guess an outdated package might be easier but I'm more concerned about the
ones that are broken. I suppose the ones that are broken are still broken
because they're hard to fix.
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Are any of you on the java-devel list so that I could move my newb questions
there? I can guarantee that it's a low-traffic list so there's no risk in
joining it. :-)
google-http-java-client looks easy to fix. It won't build because it needs one
dependency, maven-checkstyle-plugin, which won't
That's one of the big reasons I like Red Hat. You guys rock! :-)
On Wednesday, January 29, 2020, 5:14:18 AM EST, Andrew Haley
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On 1/27/20 3:13 PM, Alex Scheel wrote:
> N.B.: I'd like to thank the Red Hat JVM team for being solid in
> their Fedora execution. But they maintain onl
According the procedure for retired packages, I'm announcing my intention to
take ownership of checkstyle, checkstyle-maven-plugin, and
google-http-java-client. They are all retired as far as I can tell.
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I have tried to use Jack before and I have to say that a tool like that is
really needed. I am new here as a packager also, but I've been using Fedora for
a long time. I'm glad to see your project coming to Fedora. Good luck to you.
On Friday, January 31, 2020, 7:00:02 PM EST, Erich Eickmey
I would like to take it, but I am not sponsored yet and I am still trying to
learn how to build packages. I'm getting close but there is a lot to learn. I
can see that it is currently not building because of missing dependencies. What
I don't know how to check is what other packages depend on i
I may take it as soon as I figure out how.
But, if you're building a Java app, you probably use Maven to build it, so
Maven is going to download from mavencentral, not the version packaged in
Fedora. So I'm beginning to wonder how useful the packaged apps are. Am I
missing something?
On Tu
Great feedback. Thanks! :-)
On Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 11:19:31 AM EST, Michal Srb
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On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 5:07 PM Neal Gompa wrote:
On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 10:36 AM Michal Srb wrote:
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> Hi Bill,
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> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 4:29 PM Bill Chatfield via
FYI, I'm still planning on working on the Java packaging issues. But, still
working on figuring out how to do the work. I've had a lot of other problems
come up lately so I have not made too much progress. But, I still expect to be
working on this soon.
On Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 9:11
It's probably a good idea to make it available. If I could find time I would
do it, even though I think we have a proliferation of unnecessary new
languages. But, people want them so it's best to make them available.
On Wednesday, February 12, 2020, 11:06:30 AM EST, Dridi Boukelmoune
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