Re: Malayalam terminal support

2024-10-31 Thread Rajeesh K V
> > Does anyone know if another Malayalam-capable terminal now exists? > > > > I tried copying the string “മലയാളം” from the Malayalam Wikipedia page into > > Gnome > > Terminal, and it looks okay to me, but I really don’t know what I’m looking > > for. That word “മലയാളം” doesn't have any charact

Re: RFC: Moving to -O3 for Fedora Linux

2024-10-31 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 10:46:01PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > I know the idea of moving to -O3 has been briefly mentioned before in > other contexts when we've discussed uplifting the flags, but it looks > like Ubuntu is moving to -O3 for Ubuntu 25.04[1]. Is there a reason > why we shouldn't consid

Re: RFC: Moving to -O3 for Fedora Linux

2024-10-31 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 10:57:02AM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 at 07:32, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 10:46:01PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > I know the idea of moving to -O3 has been briefly mentioned before in > > > other contexts when we've discu

Re: RFC: Moving to -O3 for Fedora Linux

2024-10-31 Thread Kilian Hanich via devel
Am 31.10.24 um 19:02 schrieb Jakub Jelinek: On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 07:47:22PM +0200, drago01 wrote: Isn't instruction cache footprint already part of "performance" i.e if performance is improved it shouldn't matter and vice versa, or what am I missing? That is not how compilers work, ... T

Re: RFC: Moving to -O3 for Fedora Linux

2024-10-31 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 07:14:08PM +0100, Kilian Hanich via devel wrote: > While we are at it, please don't mix -O2 and -O3 while compiling the > same program. > > This can break things and is really not fun to debug (and that's also > the reason why a lot of buildsystems don't support that). It

Re: RFC: Moving to -O3 for Fedora Linux

2024-10-31 Thread drago01
On Thursday, October 31, 2024, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 10:15:03AM +0200, drago01 wrote: > > On Thursday, October 31, 2024, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 10:46:01PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > I know the idea of moving to -O3 has been briefly m

Re: RFC: Moving to -O3 for Fedora Linux

2024-10-31 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 07:47:22PM +0200, drago01 wrote: > > > Isn't instruction cache footprint already part of "performance" i.e if > > > performance is improved it shouldn't matter and vice versa, or what am I > > > missing? > > > > That is not how compilers work, ... > > > > That's not what I

Re: RFC: Moving to -O3 for Fedora Linux

2024-10-31 Thread Kilian Hanich via devel
Am 31.10.24 um 19:18 schrieb Jakub Jelinek: On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 07:14:08PM +0100, Kilian Hanich via devel wrote: While we are at it, please don't mix -O2 and -O3 while compiling the same program. This can break things and is really not fun to debug (and that's also the reason why a lot of b

Orphaning eza (rust-eza - maintained fork of exa)

2024-10-31 Thread Fabio Valentini
Hi all, TL;DR: I am planning to orphan rust-eza later today. Be warned - it's a lot of work to keep up with upstream (~1 release per week), keeping it up-to-date in epel8 is a bit painful (because RHEL 8, duh), and there are license shenanigans afoot since the v0.20.0 release (package is currently

Quick plan for Blender LTS

2024-10-31 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Hello team, Now that upstream Blender has a LTS release, a new strategy is needed for Fedora and also EPEL. The current release F41 and Rawhide will continue to receive new upstream updates, while Fedora n-1 and lower will stay branched on LTS i.e. Blender 4.2.x. EPEL branches (maintainers w

Re: RFC: Moving to -O3 for Fedora Linux

2024-10-31 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 11:26:23AM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > I seem to remember firefox uses LTO+PGO for speed ups/ > > I wonder if we could provide some rpm macros and packaging guidelines > to assist packagers in this process to make things more straight > forward and less error prone? Is s

Re: RFC: Moving to -O3 for Fedora Linux

2024-10-31 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 07:28:35AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > SUSE has the benefit of their build system taking care of automatic > rebuilds and simple build loops for them. This allows them to have a > much more hands-off approach than we do, and gives their packagers > significantly more breathin

Re: Malayalam terminal support

2024-10-31 Thread Peter Oliver
On Thu, 31 Oct 2024, Rajeesh K V wrote: Does anyone know if another Malayalam-capable terminal now exists? I tried copying the string “മലയാളം” from the Malayalam Wikipedia page into Gnome Terminal, and it looks okay to me, but I really don’t know what I’m looking for. That word “മലയാളം” doesn

Re: RFC: Moving to -O3 for Fedora Linux

2024-10-31 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 7:20 AM Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 10:57:02AM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 at 07:32, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 10:46:01PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > I know the idea of moving to -O3 has been

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : ELN SIG

2024-10-31 Thread sgallagh
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: ELN SIG on 2024-11-01 from 12:00:00 to 13:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meet...@irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10881/ -- ___ devel m

Re: Request for comment- tuned replacing power-profiles-daemon plan

2024-10-31 Thread Yanko Kaneti
On Wed, 2023-10-11 at 14:30 +0800, Kate Hsuan wrote: > Hi Yanko, > > On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 5:49 PM Yanko Kaneti wrote: > > > > Hello > > > > On Thu, 2023-10-05 at 15:29 +0800, Kate Hsuan wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > > > > > > We would like to replace power-profiles-daemon with tuned. > > > >

Re: RFC: Moving to -O3 for Fedora Linux

2024-10-31 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 12:12:30PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 12:36:28PM +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 11:26:23AM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > I seem to remember firefox uses LTO+PGO for speed ups/ > > > > > > I wonder if we could pro

Re: RFC: Moving to -O3 for Fedora Linux

2024-10-31 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 12:36:28PM +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 11:26:23AM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > I seem to remember firefox uses LTO+PGO for speed ups/ > > > > I wonder if we could provide some rpm macros and packaging guidelines > > to assist packagers in this

Re: Copr Modularity, the End of an Era

2024-10-31 Thread Nikita Popov
On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 5:32 PM Jakub Kadlcik wrote: > Hello everybody, > I'd like to announce that all Modularity features in Copr (except for > module hotfixes) are now deprecated, and we have a plan to slowly remove > them from our codebase. > > For more reasoning and the retirement schedule,

Re: RFC: Moving to -O3 for Fedora Linux

2024-10-31 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 10:15:03AM +0200, drago01 wrote: > On Thursday, October 31, 2024, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 10:46:01PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > I know the idea of moving to -O3 has been briefly mentioned before in > > > other contexts when we've discussed up

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20241031.n.0 changes

2024-10-31 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20241030.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20241031.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:2 Dropped images: 3 Added packages: 2 Dropped packages:1 Upgraded packages: 86 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 92.55 KiB Size of dropped packages

Re: RFC: Moving to -O3 for Fedora Linux

2024-10-31 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 at 11:11, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 10:57:02AM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 at 07:32, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 10:46:01PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > I know the idea of moving to -O3 has been b

Pkg installation failure when system recommends to install it on 'command not found'

2024-10-31 Thread Leo Sandoval
Hi team, I have seen this issue several times (I am using a F40 system) but now I have captured the log when using the *sar* cmd which is part of the *sysstat* package: on the command line I tried running the *sar* cmd which it wasn't present on the system thus bash/Fedora nicely suggests to inst

Re: RFC: Moving to -O3 for Fedora Linux

2024-10-31 Thread drago01
On Thursday, October 31, 2024, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 10:46:01PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > I know the idea of moving to -O3 has been briefly mentioned before in > > other contexts when we've discussed uplifting the flags, but it looks > > like Ubuntu is moving to -O3 fo

Re: RFC: Moving to -O3 for Fedora Linux

2024-10-31 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 at 07:32, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 10:46:01PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > I know the idea of moving to -O3 has been briefly mentioned before in > > other contexts when we've discussed uplifting the flags, but it looks > > like Ubuntu is moving to -O3 fo

Re: Pkg installation failure when system recommends to install it on 'command not found'

2024-10-31 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/31/24 1:11 PM, Leo Sandoval wrote: so it fails trying to install the dependency pc-conf with version 6.3.0-2, but if I explicitly install $ sudo dnf install sysstat     .     -     Dependencies resolved. You cut out the bits in between, but was that downloading the repo data? The "