Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-07-09 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
Il 09/07/23 00:05, Leon Fauster via devel ha scritto: > Am 08.07.23 um 22:44 schrieb Barry: >> >>> On 8 Jul 2023, at 19:56, Kushal Das wrote: >>> >>> White background is a good choice for accessibility iirc. >> Isn’t is contrast that matters not any particular background? > > On the contrary it he

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-09 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 09/07/2023 08:59, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: Can we please stop implying malevolence every time we don't agree with something? What malevolence? All 4 of my replies are gone from the main thread. I can treat this as a censoring attempt by the RH staff. This is absolutely unacceptable fo

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-09 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 09/07/2023 08:59, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: BTW in the spirit of openness, I've set up a poll (UNOFFICIAL) to clearly state community sentiment about enabling OPT-OUT metrics to FESCO: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/unofficial-poll-about-opt-out-metrics-proposal/85494 Just a simpl

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20230709.n.0 changes

2023-07-09 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20230708.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20230709.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:6 Dropped images: 3 Added packages: 3 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 123 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 249.13 KiB Size of dropped packages:0

[Test-Announce] Kernel 6.4 Test Week

2023-07-09 Thread Sumantro Mukherjee
Hey All, I would like to invite all of you to participate in the Kernel 6.4 Test week is happening from 2023-07-09 to 2023-07-16 It's fairly simple, head over to the wiki [0] and read in detail about the test week and simply run the test case mentioned in[1] and enter your results. As usual, the

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-09 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Sun, Jul 09, 2023 at 09:59:08AM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 09/07/2023 08:59, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > > BTW in the spirit of openness, I've set up a poll (UNOFFICIAL) to > > clearly state community sentiment about enabling OPT-OUT metrics to FESCO: > > https://discussion.

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-09 Thread Nader Nooryani
> On Thu, Jul 6 2023 at 07:42:47 PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour > > The problem is if users are expected to answer, they are going to > probably answer No and it's effectively the same as an opt-in. But if > we have a default value, users will be inclined to leave the default > value. > > My p

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-09 Thread Nader Nooryani
> Remember, for avoidance of doubt, we will NEVER enable telemetry upload > without the user's consent, which is indicated by either (a) not > flipping the telemetry switch in gnome-initial-setup to the off > position, or (b) flipping the telemetry switch in gnome-control-center > to the on pos

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-09 Thread Nader Nooryani
> Assuming the goal is to improve fedora, that would be pointless as > telemetry rarely produces useful results as opt-in. It makes sense to have > it opt-out, but I'd expect the telemetry output and inputs to be open and > available for fedora developers. > > Regards, > Nikos > > > On Thu, Jul

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-07-09 Thread DJ Chase
On Sun Jul 9, 2023 at 3:04 AM EDT, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > Il 09/07/23 00:05, Leon Fauster via devel ha scritto: > > Am 08.07.23 um 22:44 schrieb Barry: > >> > >>> On 8 Jul 2023, at 19:56, Kushal Das wrote: > >>> > >>> White background is a good choice for accessibility iirc. > >> Isn’t is

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-09 Thread Allan via devel
On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 06:59:11 + Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > Il 08/07/23 13:06, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel ha scritto: > > On 06/07/2023 18:10, Aoife Moloney wrote: > >> but the conversation about each change > >> will take place on Fedora Discussion at > >> https://discussion.fedoraproject.o

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-09 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 7/9/23 18:53, Allan via devel wrote: > On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 06:59:11 + > Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > >> Il 08/07/23 13:06, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel ha scritto: >>> On 06/07/2023 18:10, Aoife Moloney wrote: but the conversation about each change will take place on Fedora Discus

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-09 Thread Allan via devel
On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 18:54:18 -0400 Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > On 7/9/23 18:53, Allan via devel wrote: > > On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 06:59:11 + > > Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > > > >> Il 08/07/23 13:06, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel ha scritto: > >>> On 06/07/2023 18:10, Aoife Moloney wrote: >

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-09 Thread Nader Nooryani
In hindsight, both of my comments were hastily posted to this discussion. It wasn't very constructive and I apologize for this. I do believe that this proposed change is being considered with the best intentions for both the user and Fedora. Could we see an example of the text/telemetry that

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-09 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 7/9/23 19:08, Allan via devel wrote: > On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 18:54:18 -0400 > Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > >> On 7/9/23 18:53, Allan via devel wrote: >>> On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 06:59:11 + >>> Mattia Verga via devel wrote: >>> Il 08/07/23 13:06, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel ha scritto: > On

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-09 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 8:51 PM Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > On 7/9/23 19:08, Allan via devel wrote: > > On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 18:54:18 -0400 > > Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > > >> On 7/9/23 18:53, Allan via devel wrote: > >>> On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 06:59:11 + > >>> Mattia Verga via devel wrote: >

Introducing the New QA Dashboard: Gain Insights into the Fedora QA Community

2023-07-09 Thread Sudhir Dharanendraiah
Dear Fedora Community, The Fedora QA team is excited to announce the launch of our brand new QA Dashboard for the Fedora QA community! This dashboard has been designed to provide you with valuable insights into what is happening in the Fedora QA space, helping us all work together more efficiently

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Color Bash Prompt (System Wide)

2023-07-09 Thread Jens-Ulrik Petersen
Thanks for the replies so far. Unfortunately there is no easy way to detect dark or light terminals, to my knowledge at least. Green seems the most friendly color across different palettes and terminals. Though these days modern terminals tend to default to dark (most Fedora editions' default term

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Color Bash Prompt (System Wide)

2023-07-09 Thread Jens-Ulrik Petersen
On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 9:36 PM Marián Konček wrote: > I actually copy-paste the Debian prompt since Debian Jessie on my systems. > Even though it uses blue-green colors, I can see it very well on both > white and black background. > Okay > I think it would be nicer if we played around with sev

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Color Bash Prompt (System Wide)

2023-07-09 Thread Per Bothner
On 7/9/23 22:20, Jens-Ulrik Petersen wrote: Unfortunately there is no easy way to detect dark or light terminals, to my knowledge at least. You can use the xterm OSC 11;? sequence to request the text background color. Emacs uses this to select light or dark theming. -- --Per Bothner p.

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-09 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 10/07/2023 02:49, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: QtWebEngine (used by Falkon) was a month or more behind upstream Chromium last I checked. Qt5QtWebEngine is an extremely vulnerable thing. It still uses Chromium 87.0[1]. Current Chromium version: 105.0. [1]: https://wiki.qt.io/QtWebEngine/Chro