Re: Announcing fmt library soversion bump

On Wednesday, 28 June 2023 at 08:32, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 23/05/2023 12:22, Vitaly Zaitsev wrote: > > I will use my proven-packager rights to rebuild all dependent packages > > in a separate side tag next week. > > Koji is now broken in this side tag (f39-build-side-69392): > > Er

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Allow Removal of tzdata (System-Wide)

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 04:54:00PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > * Other developers: Some packages need to change their spec files from > `Requires: tzdata` to `Recommends: tzdata`. It would be beneficial if > all packages switched in this way, but it is not required. Supporting > optional tzdata i

Re: Announcing fmt library soversion bump

On 28/06/2023 08:32, Vitaly Zaitsev wrote: How I can fix that? Steps how to fix such issues for historical purposes: 1. Create a new side tag. 2. Introduce compatibility fmt9 package. 3. Build fmt9 compatibility package. 4. Build fmt 10. 5. Rebuild dnf5 against fmt 10. 6. Untag fmt9 from this

Re: Announcing fmt library soversion bump

You could bootstrap dnf for the rebuild https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/dnf/blob/rawhide/f/dnf.spec#_298 ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 12:52 AM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2023-06-27 at 17:59 -0600, Jonathan Steffan wrote: > > The Koji integration leaves many things to be desired. I've had to dig > far > > more than needed for osbuildimage stuff. > [...] > > Maybe I'm just using it wrong, but I've n

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Allow Removal of tzdata (System-Wide)

Dne 27. 06. 23 v 10:13 Vít Ondruch napsal(a): Dne 26. 06. 23 v 22:12 Fabio Valentini napsal(a): On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 8:40 PM Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 26. 06. 23 v 20:24 Fabio Valentini napsal(a): On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 8:10 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: (snip) --- The current problem with

Re: Announcing fmt library soversion bump

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 04:20, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 28/06/2023 08:32, Vitaly Zaitsev wrote: > > How I can fix that? > > Steps how to fix such issues for historical purposes: > > 1. Create a new side tag. > 2. Introduce compatibility fmt9 package. > 3

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

Hi Adam and Ben! On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:14 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > > In terms of testing: we already test the existing toolchain pretty > effectively in practice. openQA builds Workstation and KDE live images > with every relevant critical path update. If an update breaks live > image

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

I already answered you here: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/384#comment-862709 TL;DR: Let's figure this out when we are migrating other artifacts. For now, the blueprint will be empty/minimal. Cheers, Ondřej On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:34 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023

Re: Announcing fmt library soversion bump

Results: 37 builds succeeded, 19 failed. FTBFS: 0ad arbor CuraEngine bout++ cachelib contour-terminal dnf5 dolphin-emu easyrpg-player folly freeopcua gerbera gnuradio luxcorerender mangohud nheko wasmedge watchman waybar Please fix your packages and use f39-build-side-69394 side tag: fedpkg bui

Re: Releasing package updates in multiple Fedora releases

Hi, A little late for the party , I decide publish my helper_scripts on a github repo, maybe all this will be supersede by Packit https://github.com/sergiomb2/herlper_scripts Usage : fedpkg clone foo-package cd foo-packge ~/bin/update_from_bugzilla.sh id_bug stage_number echo "stage 0:

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

Hi Kevin! On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 12:41 AM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > * Other developers: > > Our focus for this change is specifically on Fedora Workstation. > > Nevertheless, we are open to collaborating with all spins/SIG to > > transition their build pipelines to Image Builder. However, for the

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 12:24 PM Jonathan Steffan wrote: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 12:52 AM Adam Williamson < > adamw...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > >> On Tue, 2023-06-27 at 17:59 -0600, Jonathan Steffan wrote: >> > The Koji integration leaves many things to be desired. I've had to dig >> far >>

Re: Announcing fmt library soversion bump

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 6:12 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Results: 37 builds succeeded, 19 failed. > > gnuradio > Issue filed upstream: https://github.com/gnuradio/gnuradio/issues/6735 Also, not all the maintainers may review the devel list as closely. In

Re: Announcing fmt library soversion bump

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 1:12 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Results: 37 builds succeeded, 19 failed. > > FTBFS: > > 0ad > arbor > CuraEngine > bout++ > cachelib > contour-terminal > dnf5 > dolphin-emu > easyrpg-player > folly > freeopcua > gerbera > gnuradio

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 5:23 AM Ondřej Budai wrote: > > Maybe I'm just using it wrong, but I've not found a different way. >>> >> > I will take a look. The difference between livemedia and osbuildImage is > that the osbuildImage task is defined by a plugin >

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 2:20 PM Jonathan Steffan wrote: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 5:23 AM Ondřej Budai wrote: > >> > Maybe I'm just using it wrong, but I've not found a different way. >>> >> I will take a look. The difference between livemedia and osbuildImage is >> that the osbuildImage ta

Re: SIG proposal: libreoffice-sig

Hi, On Tuesday, 2023-06-27 17:06:56 -, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > Anyone interested can join the `#libreoffice-sig:fedoraproject.org` matrix > room for discussion. Nope, it's #libreoffice:fedoraproject.org Eike -- GPG key 0x6A6CD5B765632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918 630B 6A6C D5

Re: Announcing fmt library soversion bump

On 28/06/2023 14:10, Kalev Lember wrote: Since you already have the compat package, I would suggest merging the side tag as is. I'm waiting for dnf5: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf5/issues/675 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2218180 I fixed some packages with trivia

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 8:25 AM Ondřej Budai wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 2:20 PM Jonathan Steffan > wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 5:23 AM Ondřej Budai wrote: > > > Maybe I'm just using it wrong, but I've not found a different way. >>> >>> >>> I will take a look. The diff

Re: Announcing fmt library soversion bump

On 6/28/23 04:10, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: Results: 37 builds succeeded, 19 failed. FTBFS: waybar Known regression in fmt. Please, apply https://github.com/fmtlib/fmt/pull/3430. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: Announcing fmt library soversion bump

> FTBFS: > easyrpg-player Upstream has already updated the program to work with fmt10, so I just applied the relevant commit to the Fedora package. Submitted and rebuilt: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=102705429 A.FI. ___ devel mai

Re: Announcing fmt library soversion bump

On 28/06/2023 15:00, Aleksei Bavshin wrote: Known regression in fmt. Please, apply https://github.com/fmtlib/fmt/pull/3430. Thanks for the information. The fix has been ported to fmt-10.0.0-2.fc39. waybar is now fixed. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) ___

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Clean Systemd-boot installs (Self-Contained_

On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 12:24:04PM -0500, Jeremy Linton wrote: > But, IMHO the largest change is moving the boot kernel/initrd to the > ESP, rather than the use of systemd-boot itself. Given the > filesystem layout remains the same outside of those two items and > the BLS entries, all the common to

Re: Towards enabling rpm sysusers integration

On Di, 27.06.23 12:04, Panu Matilainen (pmati...@redhat.com) wrote: > On 6/22/23 19:55, Steve Grubb wrote: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Adopting_sysusers.d_format > > > > I would caution against this whole proposal. Not that I'm against it, but > > just saying be careful doing it

Re: Announcing fmt library soversion bump

> FTBFS: > contour-terminal Applying the related upstream commit as the patch, the rebuild succeeded. Ref: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=102707247 ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: Announcing fmt library soversion bump

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 6:37 AM Richard Shaw wrote: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 6:12 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > >> Results: 37 builds succeeded, 19 failed. >> >> gnuradio >> > > Issue filed upstream: > https://github.com/gnuradio/gnuradio/issues/6735 >

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 04:23 -0600, Jonathan Steffan wrote: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 12:52 AM Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > On Tue, 2023-06-27 at 17:59 -0600, Jonathan Steffan wrote: > > > The Koji integration leaves many things to be desired. I've had to dig > > far > > > more than needed for o

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 12:58 +0200, Ondřej Budai wrote: > Hi Adam and Ben! > > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:14 PM Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > > > > > In terms of testing: we already test the existing toolchain pretty > > effectively in practice. openQA builds Workstation and KDE live images >

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 13:23 +0200, Ondřej Budai wrote: > We can definitely flatten the JSON output into something that resembles a > log file. I will let you know when this is done. > > Note that every task also produces a manifest file - this is extremely > useful, because you can just feed it to

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 13:01 +0200, Ondřej Budai wrote: > I already answered you here: > https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/384#comment-862709 > > TL;DR: Let's figure this out when we are migrating other artifacts. For > now, the blueprint will be empty/minimal. Thanks a lot for engaging w

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

Hi all, Adam Williamson napsal: >On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 13:01 +0200, Ondřej Budai wrote: >> I already answered you here: >> https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/384#comment-862709 >> >> TL;DR: Let's figure this out when we are migrating other artifacts. For >> now, the blueprint will be emp

Re: Announcing fmt library soversion bump

Richard Shaw wrote on 2023/06/28 23:40: On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 6:37 AM Richard Shaw wrote: On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 6:12 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: Results: 37 builds succeeded, 19 failed. gnuradio Issue filed upstream: https://github.com/gnuradio

Re: Towards enabling rpm sysusers integration

On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 10:15:48 AM EDT Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Di, 27.06.23 12:04, Panu Matilainen (pmati...@redhat.com) wrote: > > On 6/22/23 19:55, Steve Grubb wrote: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Adopting_sysusers.d_format > > > > > > I would caution against this wh

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in August

On 28. 06. 23 15:33, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 6/28/23 09:43, Miro Hrončok wrote: Dear maintainers. Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages should be retired from Fedora 39 approximately one week before branching. 5 weekly reminders are required, hence

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 18:21 +0200, Jiří Konečný wrote: > > > > I think the points discussed in the ticket (layering/inheritance, and > > package removals) are critical and they need an answer to be figured > > out *before* we start switching Fedora live images to be built with a > > different tool

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On 6/28/23 17:06, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 13:01 +0200, Ondřej Budai wrote: I already answered you here: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/384#comment-862709 TL;DR: Let's figure this out when we are migrating other artifacts. For now, the blueprint will be empty/min

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Workstation by default (System-Wide)

Hi, I am not a developer, I do rely on accessibility such as orca. I think the last time I tested it, the image booted but there seems to be know way to get orca speaking so could not test accessibility of installing. I am guessing this is being taking into account? As it stands now, if an o

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

Adam Williamson napsal: >On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 18:21 +0200, Jiří Konečný wrote: >> > >> > I think the points discussed in the ticket (layering/inheritance, and >> > package removals) are critical and they need an answer to be figured >> > out *before* we start switching Fedora live images to be

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Workstation by default (System-Wide)

Hi, thanks for this question. We tested the accessibility and so far looks good. The benefit of this solution is that we based on PatternFly components which takes care of accessibility for us. For showing Web UI we are going to use Firefox so that should be also fine. However, I'm not sure how

Re: Broken link

On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 01:41:48PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > I mailed the admin listed for that site... hopefully they can correct > their mirror and/or mirrormanager to fix it up. > > I marked it inactive in the mean time... they can reacitivate it when > it's fixed. Just to circle back:

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Workstation by default (System-Wide)

On Wed, Jun 28 2023 at 07:06:13 PM +0200, Jiří Konečný wrote: However, I'm not sure how you can start Orca on the Workstation Live environment. Would be great to find that out from someone who knows GNOME more than me. Should be: Alt+Super+S ___ de

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build JDKs once, repack everywhere (System-Wide) - Proposal Addendum

On 6/26/23 12:21, Aoife Moloney wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BuildJdkOncePackEverywhere#including_portable_srpms_in_release_(improving_of_step_6) > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receiv

Re: Announcing fmt library soversion bump

FTBFS: 0ad arbor CuraEngine bout++ cachelib dolphin-emu folly freeopcua gerbera luxcorerender mangohud wasmedge watchman I think I will merge this side tag without fmt9 compatibility package tomorrow. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) _

Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2023-06-28

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-06-28/fedora_coreos_meeting.2023-06-28-16.29.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-06-28/fedora_coreos_meeting.2023-06-28-16.29.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 18:44 +0200, Simon de Vlieger wrote: > > What I would like to know is what is the minimum customizations needed > in blueprints for this change proposal and what is necessary for > supporting editions and spins down the line. Thanks, Simon. So, we obviously don't need laye

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build JDKs once, repack everywhere (System-Wide) - Proposal Addendum

On 6/26/23 09:21, Aoife Moloney wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BuildJdkOncePackEverywhere#including_portable_srpms_in_release_(improving_of_step_6) This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive comm

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On 6/28/23 21:12, Adam Williamson wrote: The current Workstation live has the package exclusions from fedora- workstation-common.ks in it: https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts/blob/main/f/fedora-workstation-common.ks so it excludes three groups that are part of the 'standard' for live images bu

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 4:26 PM Simon de Vlieger wrote: > > On 6/28/23 21:12, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > The current Workstation live has the package exclusions from fedora- > > workstation-common.ks in it: > > > > https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts/blob/main/f/fedora-workstation-common.ks > >

Re: Announcing fmt library soversion bump

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 8:03 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > FTBFS: > > 0ad > arbor > CuraEngine > bout++ > cachelib > dolphin-emu > folly > freeopcua > gerbera > luxcorerender > mangohud > wasmedge > watchman > I fixed 0ad from that list and built it in the

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Allow Removal of tzdata (System-Wide)

On 6/28/23 03:44, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 04:54:00PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: >> * Other developers: Some packages need to change their spec files from >> `Requires: tzdata` to `Recommends: tzdata`. It would be beneficial if >> all packages switched in this way, but it

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Allow Removal of tzdata (System-Wide)

On 6/27/23 05:38, Jiri Vanek wrote: > JDK will behave similarly. We ave (small) advantage that we have also > in-jdk-bundled tzdata. However fallback in case of removed system > tzdata is not automatic, and requires human touch. Long ago we have a > patch in jdk which looked to system tzdata - if

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Allow Removal of tzdata (System-Wide)

On 6/26/23 16:12, Fabio Valentini wrote: > So all this considered, I'm not sure whether this change is actually > worth it, if tzdata databases of some form will likely be pulled into > installs anyway. Quoting the "Weak Dependencies Policy": "Weak dependencies allow smaller minimal installations

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Allow Removal of tzdata (System-Wide)

On 6/26/23 14:40, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Yep, this is the case for rubygem-tzinfo. It would deserve recommends > at minimum, because in theory, the tzdata can be suplied by > tzinfo-data gem instead. Thank you for adding the `Recommends: tzdata`! -- Cheers, Carlos.

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Allow Removal of tzdata (System-Wide)

On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 12:15 AM Carlos O'Donell wrote: > > On 6/26/23 16:12, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > So all this considered, I'm not sure whether this change is actually > > worth it, if tzdata databases of some form will likely be pulled into > > installs anyway. > > Quoting the "Weak Depende

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Allow Removal of tzdata (System-Wide)

On 6/26/23 14:14, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 7:10 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: >> *PEP 615 – Support for the IANA Time Zone Database in the Standard Library* >> says: >> >> >> """ >> Python distributors are encouraged to ensure that time zone data is installed > > The wording of "

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Allow Removal of tzdata (System-Wide)

On 6/28/23 18:24, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 12:15 AM Carlos O'Donell > wrote: >> >> On 6/26/23 16:12, Fabio Valentini wrote: >>> So all this considered, I'm not sure whether this change is >>> actually worth it, if tzdata databases of some form will likely >>> be pulled int

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Allow Removal of tzdata (System-Wide)

On Thu, Jun 29 2023 at 12:24:23 AM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: Thanks for the clarification, though this is only partially reassuring: I'm not sure how this accounts for the fact that there are some situations in which weak dependencies are *not installed at all*. Most notably, they are no

[Test-Announce] Fedora 39 Rawhide 20230628.n.2 nightly compose nominated for testing

Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event for Fedora 39 Rawhide 20230628.n.2. Please help run some tests for this nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly release validation testing, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Allow Removal of tzdata (System-Wide)

On 29. 06. 23 0:31, Carlos O'Donell wrote: Can we allow users to create a minimal installation by hand, while still complying with PEP-615 for default installs? The size savings for a minimal container that is UTC-only would be quite valuable for Fedora minimal containers. Yes, but see the re

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On 6/28/23 22:32, Neal Gompa wrote: On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 4:26 PM Simon de Vlieger wrote: On 6/28/23 21:12, Adam Williamson wrote: The current Workstation live has the package exclusions from fedora- workstation-common.ks in it: https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts/blob/main/f/fedora-works

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 1:06 AM Simon de Vlieger wrote: > > On 6/28/23 22:32, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 4:26 PM Simon de Vlieger wrote: > >> > >> On 6/28/23 21:12, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> > >>> The current Workstation live has the package exclusions from fedora- > >>> work

Re: Announcing fmt library soversion bump

On 28/06/2023 23:39, Kalev Lember wrote: Why? Now that you've already done all the work of adding the compatibility package, why drop it and break all of the unbuilt packages in rawhide? I don't think any of the packages from the list are release blocking, but it just seems antisocial for rawhi