Re: Towards enabling rpm sysusers integration

On 6/23/23 21:20, Michal Domonkos wrote: On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 01:18:27PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: Now that the initial hurdle of getting rpm 4.19 into rawhide is over, it's time to start looking towards enabling the sysusers integration: https://rpm-software-management.github.io/rpm/manu

Heads-up: libblockdev 3.0 coming to Rawhide

I plan to update libblockdev from 2.28 to 3.0 in Rawhide. This version will include a soname bump and some backwards incompatible API changes. udisks2 is the only package that directly depends on libblockdev, but packages using the Python bindings (python3-blockdev) need to be updated too. $ sudo

Re: Changes to build environment

On 6/22/23 20:56, Steve Grubb wrote: Hello, I have switched to F38 and find a couple items annoying. I have a workflow that checks things I develop out of github, rolls it up into an rpm, builds it, and runs the results through annocheck. If there is a warning I'd like to investigate, I cd into

Re: F39 Change Proposal: LibuserDeprecation (System Wide)

> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LibuserDeprecation ... > == Scope == > * Proposal owners: Dropping the package, move it to EPEL eventually If it's not in Fedora it can't be in EPEL (once dropped), can it? There may also be a language issue here: Does the CP owner mean "possibly/maybe"?

Re: Towards enabling rpm sysusers integration

On Do, 22.06.23 10:25, Chris Adams (li...@cmadams.net) wrote: > Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said: > > I was hoping we would be make the dependency on setup optional. > > It is a fairly heavyweight package (700+ kb) and with lots of > > not-that-useful-on-a-typical-modern-install

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

Hi Leon, > On 24. Jun 2023, at 19:44, Leon Fauster via devel > wrote: > >> I will also point out that CentOS Stream is perfectly suitable for >> production use, and I would argue it provides a differentiated > > Nope, its not perfect for production use. Just an example of _many_: > > https://

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Clean Systemd-boot installs (Self-Contained_

On Do, 22.06.23 12:24, Jeremy Linton (jeremy.lin...@arm.com) wrote: > But, IMHO the largest change is moving the boot kernel/initrd to the ESP, > rather than the use of systemd-boot itself. Given the filesystem layout > remains the same outside of those two items and the BLS entries, all the > com

Re: fuse3 allows differing NVR subpackages to be installed

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 10:58:28PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > It's possible to create this situation: > > fuse3-libs-3.13.1-1.fc38.x86_64 > fuse3-devel-3.13.1-1.fc38.x86_64 > fuse3-3.14.1-1.fc39.x86_64 > > fuse3-devel correctly requires the exact version of fuse3-libs. > However there doe

Re: fuse3 allows differing NVR subpackages to be installed

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 10:58:28PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > It's possible to create this situation: > > fuse3-libs-3.13.1-1.fc38.x86_64 > fuse3-devel-3.13.1-1.fc38.x86_64 > fuse3-3.14.1-1.fc39.x86_64 > > fuse3-devel correctly requires the exact version of fuse3-libs. > However there doe

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Clean Systemd-boot installs (Self-Contained_

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 12:19:46PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Do, 22.06.23 12:24, Jeremy Linton (jeremy.lin...@arm.com) wrote: > > > But, IMHO the largest change is moving the boot kernel/initrd to the ESP, > > rather than the use of systemd-boot itself. Given the filesystem layout > >

Re: fuse3 allows differing NVR subpackages to be installed

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 12:07:35PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 10:58:28PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > It's possible to create this situation: > > > > fuse3-libs-3.13.1-1.fc38.x86_64 > > fuse3-devel-3.13.1-1.fc38.x86_64 > > fuse3-3.14.1-1.fc39.x86_64 > > > >

[Rawhide] Approaching rebase of gpgme to 1.20.0

Hello, later today I will start rebasing gpgme to 1.20.0 in Fedora Rawhide. I checked the scratch build with abidiff and rpminspect. No soname bumps, ABI stays stable. The Qt bindings now support Qt6. This requires a slightly change in packaging (thanks Marie Loise Nolden): * previously: * qgpg

Re: F39 Change Proposal: LibuserDeprecation (System Wide)

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 3:17 AM James Ralston wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 12:33 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: > > > The main benefit is to decrease the maintenance and packaging work > > on library that does not bring much value while the functionality is > > provided by another components. > >

Bodhi tests failing because of lack of dnf5 config-manager --set-disabled subcommand

eg: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-b95ba15d84 Preparing the system for testing... Ignoring "--fixrepo" option as it has no effect on Fedora profiles Enabling buildroot repository... Unknown argument "config-manager" for command "dnf5". Add "--help" for more information about

Re: Bodhi tests failing because of lack of dnf5 config-manager --set-disabled subcommand

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 3:59 PM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > eg: > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-b95ba15d84 > > Preparing the system for testing... > Ignoring "--fixrepo" option as it has no effect on Fedora profiles > Enabling buildroot repository... > Unknown argument "con

F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraWorkstationImageBuilder This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering Ste

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

> Moreover, it's designed to give the end users a simple workflow to build > their own custom images. That's something I'd be interested in. I always have an USB drive (or several) with Fedora ISO(s) lying around, being handy from time to time. Having them customized *easily*, sounds like a great

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:34 AM Aoife Moloney wrote: > > * Other developers: > Our focus for this change is specifically on Fedora Workstation. > Nevertheless, we are open to collaborating with all spins/SIG to > transition their build pipelines to Image Builder. However, for the > initial switch

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:02 AM Michal Schorm wrote: > > Moreover, it's designed to give the end users a simple workflow to build > their own custom images. > > That's something I'd be interested in. > I always have an USB drive (or several) with Fedora ISO(s) lying > around, being handy from ti

F39 Change Proposal: Allow Removal of tzdata (System-Wide)

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AllowRemovalOfTzdata This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering Steering Com

F39 Change Proposal: Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Workstation by default (System-Wide)

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AnacondaWebUIforFedoraWorkstation This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering

F39 Change Proposal: Improve Default Font Handling with default-fonts metapackages (System-Wide)

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ImproveDefaultFontHandling This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering Steeri

F39 Change Proposal: LLVM 17 (System-Wide)

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LLVM-17 This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee. == S

F39 Change Proposal: Build JDKs once, repack everywhere (System-Wide) - Proposal Addendum

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BuildJdkOncePackEverywhere#including_portable_srpms_in_release_(improving_of_step_6) This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only b

Re: F39 Change Proposal: LLVM 17 (System-Wide)

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 6:13 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LLVM-17 > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This proposal will only be implemente

Re: F39 Change Proposal: LibuserDeprecation (System Wide)

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 07:40:50AM -, Michael J Gruber wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LibuserDeprecation > ... > > == Scope == > > * Proposal owners: Dropping the package, move it to EPEL eventually > > If it's not in Fedora it can't be in EPEL (once dropped), can it? Sure

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Workstation by default (System-Wide)

Once upon a time, Aoife Moloney said: > == Summary == > The new PatternFly-based UI has been developed by the Anaconda team > for some time now and we would like to make it available for users of > Fedora to enhance and modernize installation experience. As the first > step in this user adoption p

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Retire Modularity (Self Contained)

On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 6:31 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RetireModularity > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This proposal will only be i

Re: F39 Change Proposal: No custom Qt theming for Fedora Workstation (Self Contained)

On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 6:21 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: > (snip) > > == Detailed Description == > [https://github.com/FedoraQt/QGnomePlatform QGnomePlatform] project is > a Qt Platform Theme plugin. It reads GNOME configuration, like fonts > or icons and applies this configuration to Qt application

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Allow Removal of tzdata (System-Wide)

Hello Patsy, On 26. 06. 23 17:54, Aoife Moloney wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AllowRemovalOfTzdata == Summary == Allow the removal of tzdata especially on containers in order to minimize size. ... In order for this to work, we need packages that use tzdata at run time to switch

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Allow Removal of tzdata (System-Wide)

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 7:10 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Hello Patsy, > > On 26. 06. 23 17:54, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AllowRemovalOfTzdata > > > > == Summary == > > Allow the removal of tzdata especially on containers in order to minimize > > size. > > ...

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Allow Removal of tzdata (System-Wide)

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 8:10 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > (snip) > --- > > The current problem with Python without tzdata is: > > === > >>> from zoneinfo import ZoneInfo > >>> ZoneInfo("Europe/Prague") > Traceback (most recent cal

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

Neal Gompa wrote: > I will also point out that CentOS Stream is perfectly suitable for > production use, and I would argue it provides a differentiated > experience in its own right: because CentOS Stream does not go through > certification work that locks on specific package versions, any and > al

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Workstation by default (System-Wide)

Hi, On 6/26/23 18:00, Aoife Moloney wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AnacondaWebUIforFedoraWorkstation > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This proposal will onl

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Allow Removal of tzdata (System-Wide)

Dne 26. 06. 23 v 20:24 Fabio Valentini napsal(a): On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 8:10 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: (snip) --- The current problem with Python without tzdata is: === >>> from zoneinfo import ZoneInfo >>> ZoneInfo("Eur

Re: F39 Change Proposal: LibuserDeprecation (System Wide)

On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 5:15 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LibuserDeprecation > > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This proposal will only

Re: F39 Change Proposal: LLVM 17 (System-Wide)

On 26/06/2023 18:12, Aoife Moloney wrote: Update all llvm sub-projects in Fedora Linux to version 17. Please include iwyu and pocl packages to the side-tag rebuild too. I will update pocl to version 4.0 soon in Rawhide. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) __

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Allow Removal of tzdata (System-Wide)

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 8:40 PM Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Dne 26. 06. 23 v 20:24 Fabio Valentini napsal(a): > > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 8:10 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > (snip) > > > >> --- > >> > >> The current problem with Python without tzdata is: > >> > >> ===

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 15:33 +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraWorkstationImageBuilder > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This proposal

ELN: Mass-rebuild has started

Just a heads-up that we've begun the targeted mass-rebuild for Fedora ELN. It's running in Koji's "background" priority, so it should hopefully not significantly impact other builds. My estimate is that it will be running for about the next two days, followed up by manual rebuilds for flaky tests/n

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Workstation by default (System-Wide)

On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 12:19 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Aoife Moloney said: > > == Summary == > > The new PatternFly-based UI has been developed by the Anaconda team > > for some time now and we would like to make it available for users of > > Fedora to enhance and modernize inst

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Workstation by default (System-Wide)

On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 17:00 +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AnacondaWebUIforFedoraWorkstation > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This propo

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 4:14 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 15:33 +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraWorkstationImageBuilder > > > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > > process, proposals are publicly

Re: F39 Change Proposal: LibuserDeprecation (System Wide)

On Monday, June 26, 2023 2:47:01 PM EDT Peter Robinson wrote: > On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 5:15 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: > > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LibuserDeprecation > > > > > > > > > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > > process, proposals a

Re: ELN: Mass-rebuild has started

2023-06-26T20:21:06Z Stephen Gallagher : Just a heads-up that we've begun the targeted mass-rebuild for Fedora ELN. It's running in Koji's "background" priority, so it should hopefully not significantly impact other builds. My estimate is that it will be running for about the next two days, foll

Re: ELN: Mass-rebuild has started

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 5:08 PM Maxwell G wrote: > > 2023-06-26T20:21:06Z Stephen Gallagher : > > > Just a heads-up that we've begun the targeted mass-rebuild for Fedora > > ELN. It's running in Koji's "background" priority, so it should > > hopefully not significantly impact other builds. My esti

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

> Image Builder is a set of modern tools for building operating system > images. Its goal is to make the builds reliable and reproducible. > Moreover, it's designed to give the end users a simple workflow to > build their own custom images. The aim of this change is to switch the > build tool for F

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 03:33:26PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraWorkstationImageBuilder > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This pr

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (System-Wide)

On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 23:57 +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Image Builder is a set of modern tools for building operating system > > images. Its goal is to make the builds reliable and reproducible. > > Moreover, it's designed to give the end users a simple workflow to > > build their own

Red Hat & Fedora -- largely stepping out of this ecosystem

I have no illusions that this message is going to change anything at Red Hat. But I feel I need to get this off my chest. I'm speaking strictly for myself, not for my current or any former employer, not for the GCC project and not for any other group/organization I might have some affiliation

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Workstation by default (System-Wide)

Dne 26. 06. 23 v 22:22 Adam Williamson napsal(a): On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 12:19 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Aoife Moloney said: == Summary == The new PatternFly-based UI has been developed by the Anaconda team for some time now and we would like to make it available for users o

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Workstation by default (System-Wide)

Dne 26. 06. 23 v 20:39 Hans de Goede napsal(a): Hi, On 6/26/23 18:00, Aoife Moloney wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AnacondaWebUIforFedoraWorkstation This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive

Re: ELN: Mass-rebuild has started

On Mon Jun 26, 2023 at 17:19 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 5:08 PM Maxwell G wrote: > > > > 2023-06-26T20:21:06Z Stephen Gallagher : > > > > > Just a heads-up that we've begun the targeted mass-rebuild for Fedora > > > ELN. It's running in Koji's "background" priority,

Re: F39 Change Proposal: LLVM 17 (System-Wide)

On 6/26/23 10:02, Fabio Valentini wrote: On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 6:13 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LLVM-17 This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. Thi

Re: F39 Change Proposal: LLVM 17 (System-Wide)

On 6/26/23 12:50, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 26/06/2023 18:12, Aoife Moloney wrote: Update all llvm sub-projects in Fedora Linux to version 17. Please include iwyu and pocl packages to the side-tag rebuild too. I will update pocl to version 4.0 soon in Rawhide. For this update, we'

How to correctly use Upstream release monitoring functionality?

I see the Fedora documentation about Upstream release monitoring. First, add the project to Anitya and map it to the corresponding Fedora package, and secondly, enable the monitoring in its fedora-src repository. I have set these for cpr package, but I didn't receive the related message about it

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

Late follow-up... On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 2:46 AM Peter Oliver < lists.fedoraproject@mavit.org.uk> wrote: > On Fri, 26 May 2023, Björn Persson wrote: > > > One way to avoid all the color issues could be to just make the prompt > > bold by default. That would probably make it stand out enough

Re: Orphaning packages

I've found some folks interested in libmodsecurity and friends. They are not a packager yet but I will work on mentoring and getting them sponsored. On 23.06.2023 00:27, Neil Hanlon wrote: I've taken aria2 and thc-ipv6. Thank you for your contributions, Othman! --Neil On 22.06.2023 18:48, O

Re: F39 Change Proposal: LLVM 17 (System-Wide)

On 26/06/2023 18:12, Aoife Moloney wrote: * The Clang Resource Directory will be moved from /usr/lib64/clang/17/ to /usr/lib/clang/17/ this is the location of clang's internal headers and runtime libraries like libomp and compiler-rt. Why? /usr/lib is a directory for 32-bit and architecture agn

Re: How to correctly use Upstream release monitoring functionality?

V Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 02:03:36AM -, Felix Wang napsal(a): > I see the Fedora documentation about Upstream release monitoring. First, add > the project to Anitya and map it to the corresponding Fedora package, and > secondly, enable the monitoring in its fedora-src repository. I have set > t

Re: F39 Change Proposal: LLVM 17 (System-Wide)

On 6/26/23 22:44, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 26/06/2023 18:12, Aoife Moloney wrote: * The Clang Resource Directory will be moved from /usr/lib64/clang/17/ to /usr/lib/clang/17/ this is the location of clang's internal headers and runtime libraries like libomp and compiler-rt. Why? /usr

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

Would like to take**golang-github-lithammer-dedent and aqemu but I believe I still need a sponsor. Anyone willing to sponsor? On 6/9/23 07:24, Omair Majid wrote: Hi, Jens-Ulrik Petersen writes: What would be really helpful is to know how it compares with other Naskh fonts like Paktype (curr

Re: How to correctly use Upstream release monitoring functionality?

V Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 08:34:50AM +0200, Petr Pisar napsal(a): > You can also check an archive of the notification > . > There is