[Test-Announce] Fedora 38 Rawhide 20221210.n.0 nightly compose nominated for testing

2022-12-10 Thread rawhide
Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event for Fedora 38 Rawhide 20221210.n.0. Please help run some tests for this nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly release validation testing, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Re: Small rant: installer environment size

2022-12-10 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 03:08:19PM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 9, 2022, at 7:30 AM, Ray Strode wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 2:55 PM Adam Williamson > > wrote: > >> This is the direction Daniel was thinking down. I'm waiting for someone > >> with more expertise t

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20221210.n.0 changes

2022-12-10 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20221209.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20221210.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 13 Added packages: 6 Dropped packages:4 Upgraded packages: 75 Downgraded packages: 1 Size of added packages: 2.79 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: Include minor version number in packaged Python shebangs

2022-12-10 Thread Michael J Gruber
I'm wondering how you specify Python 3.8+ in the shebang ... If the EPEL 8 packages work with the EPEL 8 python then there is nothing to fix on the packaging side, really. For pip installs virtualenv or conda and the like seem to be the way forward, or adjusting their shebang to the non-default

Re: Include minor version number in packaged Python shebangs

2022-12-10 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 5:04 PM Audrey Toskin wrote: > > DNF modules let you install multiple different versions of Python 3, and the > `alternatives` tool lets you change which is the default version invoked by > `/usr/bin/python3`. > > However, at least for *Enterprise Linux 8, it seems a lot o

Re: Small rant: installer environment size

2022-12-10 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said: > We *could* do something about repo metadata: only install the "main" metadata, > and not the "filepath" metadata. This would reduce the metadata size by ~80%. > It'd also have huge benefits for speed: on small dnf operations a significant > por

Re: Small rant: installer environment size

2022-12-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2022-12-10 at 11:59 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 03:08:19PM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 9, 2022, at 7:30 AM, Ray Strode wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 2:55 PM Adam Williamson > > > wrote: > > > > This is

Re: Include minor version number in packaged Python shebangs

2022-12-10 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 12/10/22 06:38, Neal Gompa wrote: On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 5:04 PM Audrey Toskin wrote: DNF modules let you install multiple different versions of Python 3, and the `alternatives` tool lets you change which is the default version invoked by `/usr/bin/python3`. However, at least for *Enterp

Re: Include minor version number in packaged Python shebangs

2022-12-10 Thread Maxwell G via devel
On Fri Dec 9, 2022 at 22:04 +, Audrey Toskin wrote: > DNF modules let you install multiple different versions of Python 3, > and the `alternatives` tool lets you change which is the default > version invoked by `/usr/bin/python3`. This is not the case on any current Fedora release. AFAIK, only

Re: Small rant: installer environment size

2022-12-10 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Chris Murphy wrote: > Net costs: Fedora releng takes one compression hit per image created, but > consumers of those images which also includes a ton of Fedora QA bot time > as well as human users are in the dozens to thousands of hits per image > created. But for those human users, a smaller imag

Re: Small rant: installer environment size

2022-12-10 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Adam Williamson wrote: > Looking at sizes, iwlwifi firmware alone is 75M(!) ath10k is 6.8M, > ath11k is 12M, ath6k is 812K, so that's nearly another 20M. brcm/ is > another 6.4M and I *think* that's all wifi. There's a few other minor > ones, but that's a little over 100M of just wifi, with Intel b