Re: Review Request: ImageMagick7

2022-12-05 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 04/12/2022 20:25, Sérgio Basto wrote: I don't indent change /usr/bin/convert from ImageMagick6 so probably it will /usr/bin/convert-7 Such name change is not a good idea, because /usr/bin/convert and all other ImageMagick binaries are used in many scripts and SPECs. You must provide symbol

Re: Some reasons I really dislike buildroot overrides and would like us to get rid of them soon

2022-12-05 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 04/12/2022 20:48, Neal Gompa wrote: I would prefer that*every* build would automatically generate a side tag, even if it's a side-tag of one package. No, please. Koji is already dying with 100 side tags regeneration (check my first message in this thread). When there will be 1000+ we will

Re: Some reasons I really dislike buildroot overrides and would like us to get rid of them soon

2022-12-05 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 05/12/2022 02:36, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: Can those be fixed? I doubt. All side tags must be regenerated after each build in it or after each global buildroot override, which is a very slow process. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) _

Re: Some reasons I really dislike buildroot overrides and would like us to get rid of them soon

2022-12-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Dec 05, 2022 at 12:05:59AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 12:02 AM Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 19:27 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > > > > > > The examples you provide are definitely interesting. They all > > > > essentially boi

Re: Some reasons I really dislike buildroot overrides and would like us to get rid of them soon

2022-12-05 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 04. 12. 22 v 20:27 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): On Fri, Dec 02, 2022 at 03:35:31PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 00:14 +0100, Kalev Lember wrote: On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 10:30 PM Adam Williamson wrote: So there's this CI ticket ATM[0] about whether the env

Re: Review Request: ImageMagick7

2022-12-05 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 03. 12. 22 v 17:25 Sérgio Basto napsal(a): On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 11:57 +0100, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 03/12/2022 00:30, Sérgio Basto wrote: The proposal now is to keep ImageMagick 6 and make a new package with ImageMagick 7 , when we have all applications use only ImageMagick 7,

Re: [HEADS UP] gpgme rebase to 1.17.1 and libqgpgme SONAME bump

2022-12-05 Thread Miro Hrončok
On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 Adam Williamson wrote: I may think about having openQA Rawhide update tests enable the buildroot repo that includes packages from the release tag; this would make it include packages that have gone 'stable' since the previous Rawhide compose. I'd have to think if there are an

Re: Some reasons I really dislike buildroot overrides and would like us to get rid of them soon

2022-12-05 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 05. 12. 22 11:03, Vít Ondruch wrote: It seems that all the mentioned issues are about the (upcoming) stable releases. But I think Rawhide is different and maybe overrides does not make a sense there. There are no buildroot overrides for rawhide. -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC:

CPE Weekly Update for Week 48 of 2022

2022-12-05 Thread Adam P
Hi everyone, This is a weekly report from the CPE (Community Platform Engineering) Team. The report could be found at https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-48-2022/. If you want to receive weekly reports by emails in the future, please subscribe to either https://communit

Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-05 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-05 Thread Terry Barnaby
Hi, With the latest release of Fedora37 we were hit with an issue where the ncurses-compat-libs RPM had been depreciated. Due to this some of the tools we use would no longer install from their respective RPM's or their tar based installs would not run as they needed the libncurses*5.so share

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-05 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Mon, 5 Dec 2022 at 06:45, Terry Barnaby wrote: > Hi, > > With the latest release of Fedora37 we were hit with an issue where the > ncurses-compat-libs > RPM had been depreciated. Due to this some of the tools we use would no > longer install from their respective RPM's or their tar based inst

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-05 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 05/12/2022 12:39, Terry Barnaby wrote: I am wondering what Fedora's policy is on depreciated old shared libraries and particularly compat RPM's ? Fedora is a bleeding edge distribution. If you need old versions, you should try CentOS or RHEL. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycod

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20221205.n.0 changes

2022-12-05 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20221204.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20221205.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 3 Dropped packages:1 Upgraded packages: 58 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 121.98 KiB Size of dropped packages

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-05 Thread Sandro Mani
Taking these mingw-dbus orphan   1 weeks ago mingw-qt5-qtquickcontrols orphan, smani 1 weeks ago mingw-xerces-c    orphan 1 weeks ago Can take this if no-one else is interested (@Sergio Basto?) > docker-compose    lsm5, orphan, t

Next Open NeuroFedora Meeting: 1300 UTC on Monday, 05 December (Today)

2022-12-05 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hello everyone, Please join us at the next Open NeuroFedora team meeting on Monday 5th December(today!) at 1300UTC in #fedora-neuro on Matrix or IRC (Libera.chat). The meeting is a public meeting, and open for everyone to attend. You can join us over: Matrix: https://matrix.to/#/#neuro:fedorapro

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-05 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Miro Hrončok [05/12/2022 12:36] : > > perl-App-PFT orphan 1 weeks ago > perl-File-KeePass cra, echevemaster, orphan, 0 weeks ago > xavierb > perl-HTTP-Server-Simple-Authenorphan

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-05 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 05. 12. 22 12:36, Miro Hrončok wrote: The following packages are orphaned...     Package  (co)maintainers   Status Change python-argon2-cffi    atim, epel-package

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-05 Thread Florian Weimer
* Stephen Smoogen: > Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 is reaching its EOL in 1 year and 29 > weeks. Getting code to compile for it on newer OS's is harder and > packagers volunteer time is limited. For official information on support life-cycles, please consider this official resource: Red Hat Enter

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-05 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 12:01 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 05/12/2022 12:39, Terry Barnaby wrote: > > I am wondering what Fedora's policy is on depreciated old shared > > libraries and particularly compat RPM's ? > > Fedora is a bleeding edge distribution. If you need old versions, you

Re: wlroots 0.16 update announcement

2022-12-05 Thread Frantisek Zatloukal
>From gamescope perspective, a new release would require wlroot 0.16 (commit is already present in master), so can you cc me whenever you do wlroot 0.16 in bodhi? I'd either backport the specific commit/or a new release and add it to the update. I'll handle rawhide when we have a new release or wh

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-05 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Mon, 5 Dec 2022 at 08:56, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Stephen Smoogen: > > > Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 is reaching its EOL in 1 year and 29 > > weeks. Getting code to compile for it on newer OS's is harder and > > packagers volunteer time is limited. > > For official information on support life

Fedora/CentOS planned outage 2022-12-08 19:00 UTC

2022-12-05 Thread Stephen Smoogen
lanned Outage - IAD2 Outage - 2022-12-08 19:00 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2022-12-08 19:00 UTC, which will last approximately 4 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2022-12-08 19:00 UTC' Reas

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-05 Thread Gwyn Ciesla via devel
I've taken python-humblewx, buildbot, php-adodb. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: htt

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-05 Thread Jarek Prokop
On 12/5/22 14:57, Peter Robinson wrote: On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 12:01 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 05/12/2022 12:39, Terry Barnaby wrote: I am wondering what Fedora's policy is on depreciated old shared libraries and particularly compat RPM's ? Fedora is a bleeding edge distribution

Re: Some reasons I really dislike buildroot overrides and would like us to get rid of them soon

2022-12-05 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
IMO, buildroot overrides are devil, because may have impact on builds performed by other unaware users. The reported examples may be handled by sidetags or requesting exceptions to releng: Il 03/12/22 00:14, Kalev Lember ha scritto: > However, having said that, I also find buildroot overrides u

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-05 Thread Ron Olson
I’d be willing to take Toilet, as I love that utility. On 5 Dec 2022, at 5:36, Miro Hrončok wrote: > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure > that the package should be retired, please do so

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-05 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Mon, Dec 05, 2022 at 01:28:28PM +0100, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > * Miro Hrončok [05/12/2022 12:36] : > > > > perl-App-PFT orphan 1 weeks > > ago > > perl-File-KeePass cra, echevemaster, orphan, 0 weeks > > ago > >

Review request: Python-pypresence

2022-12-05 Thread Steve Cossette
Good afternoon/morning everyone, I'm a co-packager for Lutris, and the newest version (0.5.12) had a couple more package requirements, one of which is pypresence, which isn't packaged with Fedora. I created a review request here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2150506 if anyone could

Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-12-06)

2022-12-05 Thread Miro Hrončok
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Tuesday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.libera.chat. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2022-12-06 17:00 UTC' Links to all issues to be d

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-05 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Chuck Anderson [05/12/2022 13:06] : > > Would you lke to take perl-Term-ShellUI as well? It is a dependency > of kpcli which requires perl-File-KeePass. Otherwise I'm happy to > take it. Taken as well. Co-maintainers are welcome. Emmanuel ___ devel

F38 proposal: Add _FORTIFY_SOURCE=3 to distribution build flags (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-05 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Add_FORTIFY_SOURCE%3D3_to_distribution_build_flags This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the F

Re: F38 proposal: Add _FORTIFY_SOURCE=3 to distribution build flags (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-05 Thread Ben Cotton
On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 2:58 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > * Release engineering: Mass rebuild required Please file a ticket with Release Engineering if you haven't already. > == Contingency Plan == > * Contingency mechanism: (What to do? Who will do it?) If too many > packages are found to be broken

Re: F38 proposal: Add _FORTIFY_SOURCE=3 to distribution build flags (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-05 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 7:58 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Add_FORTIFY_SOURCE%3D3_to_distribution_build_flags > It is my vague recollection (I could easily be wrong, so correct me as appropriate) that _FORTIFY_SOURCE=3 adds some runtime overhead that did not apply

Can apmd be retired?

2022-12-05 Thread Florian Weimer
It's a low-level package only built for i686. If it actually works on x86-64 kernels, it should be built as an x86-64 package, too. If it doesn't work on x86-64 kernels, I don't see why we should keep building it. Thanks, Florian ___ devel mailing list

Re: Can apmd be retired?

2022-12-05 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 4:01 PM Florian Weimer wrote: > > It's a low-level package only built for i686. If it actually works on > x86-64 kernels, it should be built as an x86-64 package, too. If it > doesn't work on x86-64 kernels, I don't see why we should keep building > it. > The only use I c

Re: Some reasons I really dislike buildroot overrides and would like us to get rid of them soon

2022-12-05 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > Or let's just get rid of Bodhi and trust all packagers to "know exactly > what they are doing with their package". Yes please! Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe se

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-05 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 05/12/2022 12:39, Terry Barnaby wrote: >> I am wondering what Fedora's policy is on depreciated old shared >> libraries and particularly compat RPM's ? > > Fedora is a bleeding edge distribution. If you need old versions, you > should try CentOS or RHEL. Or y

Re: Some reasons I really dislike buildroot overrides and would like us to get rid of them soon

2022-12-05 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 4:44 PM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > > Or let's just get rid of Bodhi and trust all packagers to "know exactly > > what they are doing with their package". > > Yes please! > NO! That way is madness! It penalizes fresh packagers too much

Re: F38 proposal: Add _FORTIFY_SOURCE=3 to distribution build flags (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-05 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 3:17 PM Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 7:58 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Add_FORTIFY_SOURCE%3D3_to_distribution_build_flags > > > > It is my vague recollection (I could easily be wrong, so > correct me as appropriate

Re: Some reasons I really dislike buildroot overrides and would like us to get rid of them soon

2022-12-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2022-12-05 at 22:44 +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > > Or let's just get rid of Bodhi and trust all packagers to "know exactly > > what they are doing with their package". > > Yes please! Exhibits 1 through 2636 for why this is a bad idea: https://bod

Re: Review Request: ImageMagick7

2022-12-05 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Neal Gompa [04/12/2022 22:26] : > > Smooge challenged me earlier in this conversation to provide patches > and effort, and I'm doing just that. Thank you for doing this, btw. Over the weekend, this became a discussion where none of the participants seemed to be listening to the others and it be

Re: Review Request: ImageMagick7

2022-12-05 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 6:38 PM Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > > * Neal Gompa [04/12/2022 22:26] : > > > > Smooge challenged me earlier in this conversation to provide patches > > and effort, and I'm doing just that. > > Thank you for doing this, btw. > > Over the weekend, this became a discussion where

Re: F38 proposal: Add _FORTIFY_SOURCE=3 to distribution build flags (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-05 Thread Jaroslav Prokop
Hi, This is underwhelming and I have several questions inline On 12/5/22 20:58, Ben Cotton wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Add_FORTIFY_SOURCE%3D3_to_distribution_build_flags This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announc

Re: F38 proposal: Add _FORTIFY_SOURCE=3 to distribution build flags (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-05 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 10:53 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > It has a similar impact that turning back on frame pointers would. > > Cf. > https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/09/17/gccs-new-fortification-level#the_gains_of_improved_security_coverage_outweigh_the_cost > That article explicitly sta

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-05 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 05/12/2022 16:00, Jarek Prokop wrote: On 12/5/22 14:57, Peter Robinson wrote: On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 12:01 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 05/12/2022 12:39, Terry Barnaby wrote: I am wondering what Fedora's policy is on depreciated old shared libraries and particularly compat RPM'