Re: FontAwesome 6

2022-11-01 Thread Matthias Runge
On 31/10/2022 19:23, Jerry James wrote: Hi all, One hurdle is that the current fontawesome-fonts maintainer doesn't seem to have time to work on the package: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1857488#c9. I'm willing to help out with that, but would prefer to see somebody with more

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-11-01 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 31/10/2022 16:45, Kalev Lember wrote: Right now when someone mentions that something was rewritten in rust, that sounds a lot like a death sentence for the Fedora package. Yes it is. I don't think it should be like that; and I'd like to fix that. Me to. That's why we need to drop all pac

Re: ailed to install packages: Cannot download Packages/v/vim-minimal-9.0.412-1.fc38.x86_64.rpm: All mirrors were tried; Last error: Status code: 404 for http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/fedora/li

2022-11-01 Thread Petr Pisar
V Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 12:14:11AM -, Reon Beon via devel napsal(a): > ailed to install packages: Cannot download > Packages/v/vim-minimal-9.0.412-1.fc38.x86_64.rpm: All mirrors were tried; > Last error: Status code: 404 for > http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/fedora/linux/development/rawhide

Re: libxml2-2.10.3-1.fc36 breaks (part of) GraphicsMagick

2022-11-01 Thread Mamoru TASAKA
Michael J Gruber wrote on 2022/10/29 5:19: With this libxml2 update: ``` gm convert -list format ... gm convert: Unable to load module ("/usr/lib64/GraphicsMagick-1.3.38/modules-Q16/coders/url.la: file not found") ``` In fact, `url.so` is there but cannot be dlopen'ed. This works after downgrad

Re: libxml2-2.10.3-1.fc36 breaks (part of) GraphicsMagick

2022-11-01 Thread Petr Pisar
V Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 05:31:08PM +0900, Mamoru TASAKA napsal(a): > Michael J Gruber wrote on 2022/10/29 5:19: > > With this libxml2 update: > > ``` > > gm convert -list format > > ... > > gm convert: Unable to load module > > ("/usr/lib64/GraphicsMagick-1.3.38/modules-Q16/coders/url.la: file not

miniz-3.0.0 brings a SONAME bump

2022-11-01 Thread Petr Pisar
Hello, just a notification that miniz-3.0.0 will bump libminiz.so.0.2 SONAME in Fedora 38. As far as I know there is no other package depending on it. -- Petr signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject

Could we have Portmaster (an open source application firewall)?

2022-11-01 Thread martin luther
https://github.com/safing/portmaster it is a firewall app with nice gui just like glasswire but it is opensource with some vpn features also hence it can be included they provide a .rpm app so it can easily published in fedora repo https://updates.safing.io/latest/linux_amd64/packages/portmaster-

Non-Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-11-01)

2022-11-01 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
There are no topics to be discussed in the FESCo meeting Tuesday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.libera.chat. Hence I decided to cancel it. I will chair the next meeting. = Discussed and Voted in the Ticket = #2882 Change: PostgreSQL 15 https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2882 APPROVED (+4,0,-

Re: miniz-3.0.0 brings a SONAME bump

2022-11-01 Thread Paul Howarth
On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 11:40:45 +0100 Petr Pisar wrote: > Hello, > > just a notification that miniz-3.0.0 will bump libminiz.so.0.2 SONAME > in Fedora 38. As far as I know there is no other package depending on > it. It's used at least by perl-Sereal-{De,En}coder: $ rpm -qp --requires perl-Sereal-

Re: F37 proposal: Add -fno-omit-frame-pointer to default compilation flags (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-11-01 Thread Daan De Meyer via devel
I've added a new section to the proposal with the benchmark results of some benchmarks we performed against a Fedora 37 system built with frame pointers and a regular Fedora 37 system. The impact on most benchmarks seems limited aside from the CPython benchmark suite (pyperformance). See the pro

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20221101.n.0 changes

2022-11-01 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20221031.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20221101.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 1 Added packages: 7 Dropped packages:7 Upgraded packages: 57 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 3.75 MiB Size of dropped packages:2.54

Re: F37 proposal: Add -fno-omit-frame-pointer to default compilation flags (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-11-01 Thread Dominique Martinet
Daan De Meyer via devel wrote on Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 11:26:13AM -: > I've added a new section to the proposal with the benchmark results of > some benchmarks we performed against a Fedora 37 system built with > frame pointers and a regular Fedora 37 system. The impact on most > benchmarks seem

Re: miniz-3.0.0 brings a SONAME bump

2022-11-01 Thread Petr Pisar
V Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 11:04:20AM +, Paul Howarth napsal(a): > On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 11:40:45 +0100 > Petr Pisar wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > just a notification that miniz-3.0.0 will bump libminiz.so.0.2 SONAME > > in Fedora 38. As far as I know there is no other package depending on > > it. >

Re: F37 proposal: Add -fno-omit-frame-pointer to default compilation flags (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-11-01 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 11/1/22 07:38, Dominique Martinet wrote: > Daan De Meyer via devel wrote on Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 11:26:13AM -: >> I've added a new section to the proposal with the benchmark results of >> some benchmarks we performed against a Fedora 37 system built with >> frame pointers and a regular Fedor

Fedora 37 compose report: 20221101.n.0 changes

2022-11-01 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-37-20221031.n.0 NEW: Fedora-37-20221101.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 0 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:0 B Size of upgraded

Advice on packaging Python with Rust dependency

2022-11-01 Thread Ondrej Pohorelsky
Hi, I'm a package maintainer of Breezy [0] in Fedora. Recently in the newest version (3.3.0), which I'm trying to update to, upstream started requiring python-setuptools-rust as a BuildRequire, because they are shipping rio-py package [1]. This is a simple rust input output library, which require

Re: F38 proposal: Ostree Native Container (Phase 2, stable) (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-11-01 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Oct 31, 2022, at 5:14 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 09:00:40AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: >> Two things: >> >> - This proposal is explicitly trying to tie everything together. I think >> without the "bigger picture", it's actually *more* confusing. For example,

Re: miniz-3.0.0 brings a SONAME bump

2022-11-01 Thread Petr Pisar
V Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 01:07:55PM +0100, Petr Pisar napsal(a): > V Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 11:04:20AM +, Paul Howarth napsal(a): > > On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 11:40:45 +0100 > > Petr Pisar wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > just a notification that miniz-3.0.0 will bump libminiz.so.0.2 SONAME > > > i

Re: Advice on packaging Python with Rust dependency

2022-11-01 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 01. 11. 22 14:01, Ondrej Pohorelsky wrote: Hi, I'm a package maintainer of Breezy [0] in Fedora. Recently in the newest version (3.3.0), which I'm trying to update to, upstream started requiring python-setuptools-rust as a BuildRequire, because they are shipping rio-py package [1]. This is

Re: musings on rust packaging [was Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)]

2022-11-01 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 01:04:39PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > I'll respond inline. Me too -- and apologies for the delay. > > I fundamentally disagree with Kevin on a deep level about "entirely > > useless", but ... find myself kind of agreeing about the "unpackagable" > > part. I mean: cle

Re: Could we have Portmaster (an open source application firewall)?

2022-11-01 Thread Ben Beasley
I haven’t looked deeply into Portmaster, but in general: - Getting something into Fedora requires an interested volunteer to do the work, or, more rarely, someone’s job to pay them do package maintenance. - We can’t just redistribute the upstream RPM. For a number of good reasons, Fedora packag

Re: Could we have Portmaster (an open source application firewall)?

2022-11-01 Thread Richard Shaw
On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 10:26 AM Ben Beasley wrote: > I haven’t looked deeply into Portmaster, but in general: > To add to Ben's nice summary, I'm potentially interested but TBH I have two $DAYJOBS and have never packaged a GO project to date. Hopefully someone else will chime in? Thanks, Richar

Re: %set_build_flags, clang/flang-new and FC/FCFLAGS

2022-11-01 Thread Tom Stellard
On 10/31/22 20:35, Orion Poplawski wrote: While poking at building openmpi with clang, I started wondering about flang and some things: * Should %set_build_flags set FC?  I think it should since it sets FCFLAGS. * Is flang-new even worth bothering with?  See the following configure check: con

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-11-01 Thread Ben Beasley
I don’t think the change in NodeJS guidelines was a success, but a cautionary tale. In fact, I think the new NodeJS guidelines are effectively unusable, because people then point out bundled fonts, web assets and minified sources not built from their original sources, and other issues in the pre

CalcMySky soname bump

2022-11-01 Thread Gwyn Ciesla via devel
The latest Stellarium needs the latest CalcMySky, and for this release CalcMySky has reworked their soname scheme. Stellarium is the only user but heads up anyway. --  Gwyn Ciesla she/her/hers   in your fear, seek only peace  in your fear, seek onl

Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Dmitry Belyavskiy
Dear colleagues, I've just pushed the updates for OpenSSL fixing 2 CVEs evaluated as HIGH. Could you please check the freshly pushed builds to get necessary karma ASAP? Many thanks! -- Dmitry Belyavskiy ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproj

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden
On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 06:22:27PM +0100, Dmitry Belyavskiy wrote: Dear colleagues, I've just pushed the updates for OpenSSL fixing 2 CVEs evaluated as HIGH. Could you please check the freshly pushed builds to get necessary karma ASAP? Many thanks! These would be: https://bodhi.fedoraproject

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Luna Jernberg
Karma given On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 6:23 PM Dmitry Belyavskiy wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > > I've just pushed the updates for OpenSSL fixing 2 CVEs evaluated as HIGH. > Could you please check the freshly pushed builds to get necessary karma ASAP? > > Many thanks! > > -- > Dmitry Belyavskiy > __

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden writes: > Right now you can't test them since they haven't been migrated to > testing yet. You can download the packages directly from koji. From the relevant update page, you can clock the "Builds" tab which will give you a link. You can down exactly the packag

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi Dmitry, > I've just pushed the updates for OpenSSL fixing 2 CVEs evaluated as HIGH. > Could you please check the freshly pushed builds to get necessary karma ASAP? Is there a reason we're note rebasing to 3.0.7 or generally updating in Fedora with 3.x? It looks like 3.0.6 had CVE-2022-3358 wh

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Dmitry Belyavskiy
Dear Peter, On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 6:44 PM Peter Robinson wrote: > Hi Dmitry, > > > I've just pushed the updates for OpenSSL fixing 2 CVEs evaluated as > HIGH. Could you please check the freshly pushed builds to get necessary > karma ASAP? > > Is there a reason we're note rebasing to 3.0.7 or

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden
On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 12:30:31PM -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden writes: Right now you can't test them since they haven't been migrated to testing yet. You can download the packages directly from koji. From the relevant update page, you can clock the "Builds

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 11/1/22 13:30, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >> Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden writes: > >> Right now you can't test them since they haven't been migrated to >> testing yet. > > You can download the packages directly from koji. From the relevant > update page, you can clock the "Builds" tab wh

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 6:53 PM Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > On 11/1/22 13:30, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > >> Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden writes: > > > >> Right now you can't test them since they haven't been migrated to > >> testing yet. > > > > You can download the packages directly from k

Re: musings on rust packaging [was Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)]

2022-11-01 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 11/1/22 10:40, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 01:04:39PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: >> I'll respond inline. > > Me too -- and apologies for the delay. > > >>> I fundamentally disagree with Kevin on a deep level about "entirely >>> useless", but ... find myself kind of agre

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 11/1/22 13:59, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 6:53 PM Demi Marie Obenour > wrote: >> >> On 11/1/22 13:30, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden writes: >>> Right now you can't test them since they haven't been migrated to testing yet. >>> >

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 1:53 PM Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > On 11/1/22 13:30, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > >> Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden writes: > > > >> Right now you can't test them since they haven't been migrated to > >> testing yet. > > > > You can download the packages directly from k

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 5:53 PM Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > On 11/1/22 13:30, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > >> Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden writes: > > > >> Right now you can't test them since they haven't been migrated to > >> testing yet. > > > > You can download the packages directly from k

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 6:17 PM Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > On 11/1/22 13:59, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 6:53 PM Demi Marie Obenour > > wrote: > >> > >> On 11/1/22 13:30, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden > writes: > >>> > R

Re: musings on rust packaging [was Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)]

2022-11-01 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 3:40 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 01:04:39PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > I'll respond inline. > > Me too -- and apologies for the delay. > > > > > I fundamentally disagree with Kevin on a deep level about "entirely > > > useless", but ... find m

Re: musings on rust packaging [was Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)]

2022-11-01 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
Hi all, Just a note that over the summer, our intern did a project to try and address some of these issues (namely, that while it's trivial to convert a single crate to an RPM, trying to automate packaging all the dependencies and making sure that you don't break anything else while doing so is te

Re: musings on rust packaging [was Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)]

2022-11-01 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 7:07 PM Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > On 11/1/22 10:40, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 01:04:39PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > >> For intra-project dependencies (i.e. bevy components depending on > >> exact versions of bevy components), this is kind of

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Christopher Klooz
Just tested and added karma to f36 and f37. Thanks! On 01/11/2022 18:22, Dmitry Belyavskiy wrote: Dear colleagues, I've just pushed the updates for OpenSSL fixing 2 CVEs evaluated as HIGH. Could you please check the freshly pushed builds to get necessary karma ASAP? Many thanks! -- Dmitry

Re: musings on rust packaging [was Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)]

2022-11-01 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Matthew Miller wrote: > Rust tends to be more fine-grained. I don't think this is necessarily > rust-specific _really_ — I think it's a trend as people get more used to > this way of doing things. And this is inherently a PITA to package, unfortunately. It is indeed not Rust-specific, other new f

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 at 14:18, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > On 11/1/22 13:59, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 6:53 PM Demi Marie Obenour > wrote: > >> > >> On 11/1/22 13:30, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden > writes: > >>> > Right now you can

Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2022-11-01 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 6:00 AM wrote: > > You are kindly invited to the meeting: >Prioritized bugs and issues on 2022-11-02 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 > America/Indiana/Indianapolis >At fedora-meetin...@irc.libera.chat > > More information available at: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Josh Stone
On 11/1/22 11:16 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > That said, the packages *are* signed in Koji, because as soon as it's > submitted to Bodhi, the packages are signed in-place in Koji. Is that really in-place? Bodhi says these are signed, but when I download from koji, "rpm -qip" still shows "Signature: (no

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-11-01 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 01/11/2022 17:16, Ben Beasley wrote: In fact, I think the new NodeJS guidelines are effectively unusable, because people then point out bundled fonts, web assets and minified sources not built from their original sources, and other issues in the prescribed pile of bundled dependencies. Ru

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 01/11/2022 19:16, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: Still, what would it take to push them to testing right away? 24 hours. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 02:55:34PM -0700, Josh Stone wrote: > On 11/1/22 11:16 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > That said, the packages *are* signed in Koji, because as soon as it's > > submitted to Bodhi, the packages are signed in-place in Koji. > > Is that really in-place? Bodhi says these are signed,

systemd 252 feature: SUPPORT_END in /etc/os-release

2022-11-01 Thread Matthew Miller
See: https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2022-October/048519.html Systemd will set the taint flag 'support-ended' if it detects that the OS image is past its end-of-support date. This date is declared in a new /etc/os-release field SUPPORT_END= described below. [...

Re: systemd 252 feature: SUPPORT_END in /etc/os-release

2022-11-01 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 7:09 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > See: > https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2022-October/048519.html > >Systemd will set the taint flag 'support-ended' if it detects that >the OS image is past its end-of-support date. This date is declared >in

Re: systemd 252 feature: SUPPORT_END in /etc/os-release

2022-11-01 Thread Stewart Smith via devel
Matthew Miller writes: > See: > https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2022-October/048519.html > >Systemd will set the taint flag 'support-ended' if it detects that >the OS image is past its end-of-support date. This date is declared >in a new /etc/os-release field SUP

Re: systemd 252 feature: SUPPORT_END in /etc/os-release

2022-11-01 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 07:02:33PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > See: > https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2022-October/048519.html > >Systemd will set the taint flag 'support-ended' if it detects that >the OS image is past its end-of-support date. This date is declare

Re: systemd 252 feature: SUPPORT_END in /etc/os-release

2022-11-01 Thread Ben Cotton
Cosign. We'd definitely want to set it to the "EOL date if we hit the early target" so that way we're never EOL less than we say. I do like the idea of updating it when the EOL date moves out, but if that gets forgotten it's not a big deal. I'm happy to make this the Fedora Program Manager's respo

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Ian Laurie
On 11/2/22 04:22, Dmitry Belyavskiy wrote: Dear colleagues, I've just pushed the updates for OpenSSL fixing 2 CVEs evaluated as HIGH. Could you please check the freshly pushed builds to get necessary karma ASAP?

Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Todd Zullinger
Ian Laurie wrote: > On 11/2/22 04:22, Dmitry Belyavskiy wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > > I've just pushed the updates for OpenSSL fixing 2 CVEs evaluated as HIGH. > Could you please check the freshly pushed builds to get necessary karma > ASAP? > > Are we not fixing Fedora 35?  It

ELN build failures

2022-11-01 Thread Benson Muite
If there is a build failure for a package on ELN, does anything need to be added to a package spec file? Currently reviewing a package where there is a missing dependency, but helpful to also know if anything should be done in general. The documentation at [0] is not clear on this. Unclear al

Re: c99-port branches in dist-git

2022-11-01 Thread Florian Weimer
* Fabio Valentini: >> It wasn't intended to use COPR originally, it's just that Fedora releng >> ignored my request for close to a year. >> >> I filed for the branch removals. >> >> I must say this is quite confusing. Why offer self-service branch >> creatio

Re: %set_build_flags, clang/flang-new and FC/FCFLAGS

2022-11-01 Thread Florian Weimer
* Orion Poplawski: > While poking at building openmpi with clang, I started wondering about > flang and some things: > > * Should %set_build_flags set FC? I think it should since it sets FCFLAGS. I see that FC is actually documented for GNU Make, so it makes sense if we want to go in that direct

Re: %set_build_flags, clang/flang-new and FC/FCFLAGS

2022-11-01 Thread Florian Weimer
* Benson Muite: > On 11/1/22 06:35, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> While poking at building openmpi with clang, I started wondering >> about flang and some things: >> * Should %set_build_flags set FC?  I think it should since it sets >> FCFLAGS. >> * Is flang-new even worth bothering with?  See the fol