Re: Release criteria proposal: except BitLocker-enabled installs from Windows dual-boot criterion bootloader requirement

2022-09-20 Thread Sandro
On 20-09-2022 07:12, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2022, at 2:45 PM, Robbie Harwood wrote: I'm fine with the proposed change. I'm also fine with the original text. During boot, certain actions are taken that are recorded in the TPM. These include, for instance, any loaders that are ru

Re: F37 proposal: Public release of the Anaconda Web UI preview image (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-09-20 Thread Jiri Konecny
Hi everyone, I'm getting questions where people could get the ISO image with the Anaconda Web UI. If you also have this question I tried to answer it here: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/isos-with-the-new-installer-are-they-available-yet/42448/2?u=jkonecny TL;DR Don't worry, we are pl

Re: WebKitGTK package naming

2022-09-20 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Sep 15 2022 at 08:49:39 AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: I had a pet idea to change the API version to -4.5, so that we could sync up with GTK 5 with -5.0, but this didn't seem popular upstream. So now I'm toying with changing to -5.1 or -6.0 just to avoid confusion caused by webkit2

Re: WebKitGTK package naming

2022-09-20 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Sep 20 2022 at 08:24:32 AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: Being different than other distros is most confusing of all! BTW part of the confusion here might be that you're used to the Fedora package name, webkit2gtk3. But all other distros just called it webkit2gtk. I want to avoid F

Fedora 37 compose report: 20220920.n.0 changes

2022-09-20 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-37-20220919.n.0 NEW: Fedora-37-20220920.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 3 Dropped packages:1 Upgraded packages: 55 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 1.20 MiB Size of dropped packages:126.77 KiB

Proposal: disable comps component in Bugzilla

2022-09-20 Thread Ben Cotton
comps, the system of XML files used to put packages into functional groups is hosted on a Pagure repo[1] but also has a Bugzilla component. In the interests of simplicity, I propose to disable the comps component and use the Pagure repo for all comps issues. In the case where a change in comps is n

Re: Proposal: disable comps component in Bugzilla

2022-09-20 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 10:02 AM Ben Cotton wrote: > > comps, the system of XML files used to put packages into functional > groups is hosted on a Pagure repo[1] but also has a Bugzilla > component. In the interests of simplicity, I propose to disable the > comps component and use the Pagure repo

Re: Proposal: disable comps component in Bugzilla

2022-09-20 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 10:03 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > The main reason would be blocker review, but I'm not sure how often it > comes up in the past few cycles. Rarely, which is why I think using distribution as a proxy is fine. For the curious, a total of 16 comps bugs have ever been a part of t

Re: Release criteria proposal: except BitLocker-enabled installs from Windows dual-boot criterion bootloader requirement

2022-09-20 Thread Kamil Paral
On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 9:17 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > "The installer must be able to install into free space alongside an > existing clean Windows installation. As long as the Windows > installation does not have BitLocker enabled, the installer must also > install a bootloader which can boot

Re: WebKitGTK package naming

2022-09-20 Thread Milan Crha
Hi, On Tue, 2022-09-20 at 08:24 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: >  For now it's required by Builder and gnome-initial-setup ... and evolution-data-server, according to: dnf repoquery --alldeps --whatrequires "webkit2gtk5.0" and dnf repoquery --alldeps --whatrequires "pkgconfig(we

Re: Release criteria proposal: except BitLocker-enabled installs from Windows dual-boot criterion bootloader requirement

2022-09-20 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Sep 19, 2022, at 2:45 PM, Robbie Harwood wrote: > The only way to get the TPM state to match not using a particular loader > is to not use a loader - i.e., have grub2 (or efibootmgr in Fedora > userspace) set EFI BootNext and reboot the machine. I know systemd-boot does implement boot

Re: Release criteria proposal: except BitLocker-enabled installs from Windows dual-boot criterion bootloader requirement

2022-09-20 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Sep 19, 2022, at 1:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > "The installer must be able to install into free space alongside an > existing clean Windows installation and install a bootloader which can > boot into both Windows and Fedora." > > to say: > > "The installer must be able to install i

Re: Release criteria proposal: except BitLocker-enabled installs from Windows dual-boot criterion bootloader requirement

2022-09-20 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 12:16:33PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > "The installer must be able to install into free space alongside an > existing clean Windows installation and install a bootloader which can > boot into both Windows and Fedora." > > to say: > > "The installer must be able to inst

Re: Release criteria proposal: except BitLocker-enabled installs from Windows dual-boot criterion bootloader requirement

2022-09-20 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Sep 20, 2022, at 9:50 AM, Brian C. Lane wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 12:16:33PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >> "The installer must be able to install into free space alongside an >> existing clean Windows installation and install a bootloader which can >> boot into both Windows and

Re: Release criteria proposal: except BitLocker-enabled installs from Windows dual-boot criterion bootloader requirement

2022-09-20 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Chris Murphy said: > An additional topic is having boot entries for Windows (and macOS) that don't > work in the meantime. While we could just remove the scripts that create > these entries to chainload another bootloader, they're still needed for BIOS > systems which don't su

Re: Proposal: disable comps component in Bugzilla

2022-09-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 10:01:36AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > comps, the system of XML files used to put packages into functional > groups is hosted on a Pagure repo[1] but also has a Bugzilla > component. In the interests of simplicity, I propose to disable the > comps component and use the Pagure

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F36 to F37

2022-09-20 Thread Richard E. van der Luit via devel
... Downgrading: conmon x86_64 2:2.1.3-1.fc37 fedora 57 k grubby x86_64 8.40-66.fc37 fedora

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2022-09-20)

2022-09-20 Thread Miro Hrončok
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2022-09-20) === Meeting started by mhroncok at 17:00:17 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2022-09-20/fesco.2022-09-20-17.00.log.html . Meeting summary

Re: Release criteria proposal: except BitLocker-enabled installs from Windows dual-boot criterion bootloader requirement

2022-09-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2022-09-20 at 11:48 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Chris Murphy said: > > An additional topic is having boot entries for Windows (and macOS) that > > don't work in the meantime. While we could just remove the scripts that > > create these entries to chainload another bootl

Re: WebKitGTK package naming

2022-09-20 Thread Michael Catanzaro
OK, thanks for the heads-up. I didn't notice this because I was looking at the GNOME build rules, where evolution-data-server does not yet depend on it. We'll need to coordinate with you to ensure the 2.38 -> 2.40 update goes smoothly, then. I don't expect this to be difficult: it should be sim

Release rpkg-1.65 and fedpkg-1.43

2022-09-20 Thread Ondrej Nosek
Hi all, a new version rpkg-1.65 together with fedpkg-1.43 are released containing both features and bugfixes. Currently, all supported packages are present in stable repositories. Changelog (web documentation): https://docs.pagure.org/rpkg/releases/1.65.html https://docs.pagure.org/fedpkg/release

Re: F39 proposal: Replace DNF with DNF5 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-09-20 Thread Tommy Nguyen
For those who are still not convinced, here is a comparison: $ toolbox create -d fedora -r 37 && toolbox enter $ sudo time dnf upgrade -y 26.79user 3.46system 0:49.09elapsed 61%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 489304maxresident)k 47400inputs+1243320outputs (266major+377843minor)pagefaults 0swaps $ toolbox

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2022-09-20)

2022-09-20 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Miro Hrončok wrote: >* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/JdkInTreeLibsAndStdclibStatic > was submitted as an Fedora 37 update after it was deferred to Fedora > 38. We need to decide what to do. (mhroncok, 17:02:38) [snip] >* AGREED: The update may be shipped after Fedora 3

Re: F39 proposal: Replace DNF with DNF5 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-09-20 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Tommy Nguyen wrote: > DNF5 is ridiculously fast. It is faster, but "ridiculously"? In the metric that matters (elapsed wallclock time), your benchmark shows the update taking 30% less time. That said, there are other features of DNF5 (no more Python, shared cache between PackageKit and CLI) tha

Re: WebKitGTK package naming

2022-09-20 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Michael Catanzaro wrote: > Being different than other distros is most confusing of all! I have to disagree with that blanket assertion. E.g., I believe it would have been much more confusing for our users if we had shipped kdelibs 3.5.x as kdelibs4 (or "kdelibs4c2a" as Debian actually called it

Re: Release criteria proposal: except BitLocker-enabled installs from Windows dual-boot criterion bootloader requirement

2022-09-20 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Brian C. Lane wrote: > We have reached a point where boot security is important enough LOL! > that Windows is now only allowing their bootloader to be used. It is blatantly obvious that that is actually the goal, not the means. This is clearly a vendor lock-in "feature", with "security" used as

Re: Proposal: disable comps component in Bugzilla

2022-09-20 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Ben Cotton wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 10:03 AM Neal Gompa wrote: >> >> The main reason would be blocker review, but I'm not sure how often it >> comes up in the past few cycles. > > Rarely, which is why I think using distribution as a proxy is fine. > For the curious, a total of 16 comps b

Re: F39 proposal: Replace DNF with DNF5 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-09-20 Thread Tommy Nguyen
On Wed, 2022-09-21 at 02:53 +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Tommy Nguyen wrote: > > DNF5 is ridiculously fast. > > It is faster, but "ridiculously"? In the metric that matters (elapsed > wallclock time), your benchmark shows the update taking 30% less > time. > > That said, there are other

Re: WebKitGTK package naming

2022-09-20 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Note I'm following the pkg-config version, *not* the soname. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/proje