Re: glibc 2.36 and DT_HASH (preserving it for F37+)

2022-09-14 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 14/09/2022 05:27, Neal Gompa wrote: Well, we just released the Beta and people have noticed that this is still broken. Do we have an ETA on a fix? Because this is going to be a major black eye for*us* if it stays broken through to GA. Epic Games had more than a month to fix the problem but

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-14 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 13/09/2022 23:50, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: Another option is a TPM-based authenticator. Would this be acceptable? No. TPM 2.0 chip is a *proprietary* black box. Some of them have known critical security vulnerabilities[1]. [1]: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/how-to-go-from-sto

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-14 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 14/09/2022 08:46, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: The only other non-phishable authentication method is TLS client certificates and I would be fine with those. Fedora used to have TLS client certificate authorization (in Koji), but this has been replaced by Kerberos. since almost every laptop

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-14 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 9/14/22 03:55, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 14/09/2022 08:46, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: >> The only other >> non-phishable authentication method is TLS client certificates and >> I would be fine with those. > > Fedora used to have TLS client certificate authorization (in Koji), but > t

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-14 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 9/13/22 21:37, Tommy Nguyen wrote: > On Tue, 2022-09-06 at 16:14 -0500, Jonathan Wright via devel wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 3:52 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < >> devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: >> >>> On 06/09/2022 19:49, Michael Catanzaro wrote: Of course, hardware authenticat

Re: glibc 2.36 and DT_HASH (preserving it for F37+)

2022-09-14 Thread Florian Weimer
* Vitaly Zaitsev via devel: > On 14/09/2022 05:27, Neal Gompa wrote: >> Well, we just released the Beta and people have noticed that this is >> still broken. Do we have an ETA on a fix? Because this is going to be >> a major black eye for*us* if it stays broken through to GA. > > Epic Games had m

Re: small aarch64 home server

2022-09-14 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 7:51 PM Chris Adams wrote: > > I'd like to piggy-back - is there a Fedora well-supported board that can > use the Pi-targeted hats? I stayed away from the Pi for a long while, > because of the support problems, but it just seems like there's so much > that's just made for

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-14 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On ke, 14 syys 2022, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: On 9/14/22 03:55, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 14/09/2022 08:46, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: The only other non-phishable authentication method is TLS client certificates and I would be fine with those. Fedora used to have TLS client certific

Re: F38 proposal: Strong crypto settings: phase 3, forewarning 2/2 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-09-14 Thread Alexander Sosedkin
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 7:35 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > How about this: > > Drop the term 'jump scare' entirely. IMHO it just sounds bad. I'm open for proposals on the wording. =) > Rework the change so it's basically planning on making this change in > f38. That makes it closer than currently,

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20220914.n.0 changes

2022-09-14 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20220913.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20220914.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 2 Dropped packages:2 Upgraded packages: 174 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 323.29 KiB Size of dropped packages

Explicit dependency on systemd-rpm-macros now required?

2022-09-14 Thread Florian Weimer
I see some new build failures in rawhide related to systemd RPM macros: Processing files: opencryptoki-3.18.0-4.fc38.s390x error: File must begin with "/": %{_tmpfilesdir}/opencryptoki.conf error: File must begin with "/": %{_unitdir}/pkcsslotd.service […] RPM build errors: File must begin wit

Re: Explicit dependency on systemd-rpm-macros now required?

2022-09-14 Thread Tom Hughes via devel
On 14/09/2022 12:11, Florian Weimer wrote: I see some new build failures in rawhide related to systemd RPM macros: Processing files: opencryptoki-3.18.0-4.fc38.s390x error: File must begin with "/": %{_tmpfilesdir}/opencryptoki.conf error: File must begin with "/": %{_unitdir}/pkcsslotd.service

Re: Explicit dependency on systemd-rpm-macros now required?

2022-09-14 Thread Florian Weimer
* Tom Hughes via devel: > On 14/09/2022 12:11, Florian Weimer wrote: >> I see some new build failures in rawhide related to systemd RPM macros: >> Processing files: opencryptoki-3.18.0-4.fc38.s390x >> error: File must begin with "/": %{_tmpfilesdir}/opencryptoki.conf >> error: File must begin with

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-14 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 14/09/2022 10:01, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: Still, even a pure software FIDO2 implementation is much better than TOTP etc. I don't think so. Malware can easily steal the private key. Simple TOTP on a separate device is much better. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) __

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-14 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Wed, 14 Sept 2022 at 05:28, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: > > Sadly, it cannot be just 'any' certificate, it has to be issued by a > certificate authority that is trusted by the KDC as well. For example, > by FreeIPA CA which is already ran by the Fedora project infrastructure > team. An alternativ

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F36 to F37

2022-09-14 Thread Phoenix
# dnf --releasever=37 --setopt=module_platform_id=platform:f37 --enablerepo=updates-testing $(rpm -q fedora-repos-modular >/dev/null && echo --enablerepo=updates-testing-modular) --assumeno distro-sync Last metadata expiration check: 0:06:44 ago on Wed 14 Sep 2022 02:12:53 PM CEST. Error: Probl

Remaining packages in need of a Python 3.11 rebuild

2022-09-14 Thread Miro Hrončok
Hello folks! We are approaching Fedora 37 Final Freeze, which will start on 2022-10-04. There are still 33 packages in Fedora 37 that will need to be rebuilt with Python 3.11 in order to be installable (most of them). I propose to retire the non-installable packages if they are not rebuilt by

Re: Remaining packages in need of a Python 3.11 rebuild

2022-09-14 Thread Casper
Miro Hrončok a écrit : > profanity > @fantom > ASSIGNED https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2049682 > Bug status changed ~3 weeks ago without comment, > not updated since. > Fixed in rawhide recently, f37-candidate build exists. > I just made package update 1 hour ago. Cross-fire :) https://bodhi.fedorap

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-14 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On ke, 14 syys 2022, Stephen Smoogen wrote: On Wed, 14 Sept 2022 at 05:28, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: Sadly, it cannot be just 'any' certificate, it has to be issued by a certificate authority that is trusted by the KDC as well. For example, by FreeIPA CA which is already ran by the Fedora proj

Re: Explicit dependency on systemd-rpm-macros now required?

2022-09-14 Thread Smith, Stewart via devel
> On Sep 14, 2022, at 4:17 AM, Tom Hughes via devel > wrote: > >> On 14/09/2022 12:11, Florian Weimer wrote: >> I see some new build failures in rawhide related to systemd RPM macros: >> >> Processing files: opencryptoki-3.18.0-4.fc38.s390x >> error: File must begin with "/": %{_tmpfilesdir}/o

Re: Remaining packages in need of a Python 3.11 rebuild

2022-09-14 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 14. 09. 22 16:36, Casper wrote: Miro Hrončok a écrit : profanity @fantom ASSIGNED https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2049682 Bug status changed ~3 weeks ago without comment, not updated since. Fixed in rawhide recently, f37-candidate build exists. I just made package update 1 hour ago. Cross-fire

Re: Explicit dependency on systemd-rpm-macros now required?

2022-09-14 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 10:53 AM Smith, Stewart via devel wrote: > > > > On Sep 14, 2022, at 4:17 AM, Tom Hughes via devel > > wrote: > > > >> On 14/09/2022 12:11, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> I see some new build failures in rawhide related to systemd RPM macros: > >> > >> Processing files: openc

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-14 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Sep 14 2022 at 06:58:12 AM +, Tommy Nguyen wrote: I'm not entirely convinced. See this paper: https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/1298.pdf I only read the abstract of this paper, but looks like the researchers have found that FIDO is indeed unphishable. Seems their attack relies on w

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-14 Thread Michael Catanzaro
TLS client certificates is actually not a terrible idea. They're not very popular anymore, but they're supported by all major browsers (I think?) and they work. On Wed, Sep 14 2022 at 02:08:32 PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 14/09/2022 10:01, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: Still,

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F36 to F37

2022-09-14 Thread stan via devel
On Wed, 14 Sep 2022 05:06:29 - "Richard Myers" wrote: > This is for F35 -> F37 ... > > I sure > would love it if anybody knows how to fix the below warning(?), which > shows up every time I run DNF (it has persisted through at least 3 or > 4 Fedora revisions, maybe more): > > Traceback (mos

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F36 to F37

2022-09-14 Thread Scott Beamer
I just copied and pasted from the OP... ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List

Re: F38 proposal: Strong crypto settings: phase 3, forewarning 2/2 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-09-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 11:45:16AM +0200, Alexander Sosedkin wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 7:35 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > How about this: > > > > Drop the term 'jump scare' entirely. IMHO it just sounds bad. > > I'm open for proposals on the wording. =) Well, I guess it depends on if you

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F36 to F37

2022-09-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/14/22 09:40, Scott Beamer wrote: I just copied and pasted from the OP... Ok, but you have to be aware that your email client might reformat the text and mess up the lines. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe s

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-14 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 14/09/2022 17:26, Michael Catanzaro wrote: If you want to protect against *both* threats, use a security key, but you've already pushed back against requiring a hardware purchase. I never click on links from emails, instant messengers, etc. I'm using fkinit and my simple custom systemd user

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F36 to F37

2022-09-14 Thread Scott Beamer
OK, third time is the charm. I finally got the command right. Everything went just fine.: sudo dnf --releasever=37 --setopt=module_platform_id=platform:f37 --enablerepo=updates-testing $(rpm -q fedora-repos-modular >/dev/null && echo --enablerepo=updates-testing-modular) --assumeno distro-sync

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F36 to F37

2022-09-14 Thread Dennis Gilmore via devel
# dnf --releasever=37 --setopt=module_platform_id=platform:f37 --enablerepo=updates-testing $(rpm -q fedora-repos-modular >/dev/null && echo --enablerepo=updates-testing-modular) --assumeno distro-sync Fedora 37 - x86_64 22 MB/s | 81 MB

Re: F38 proposal: Strong crypto settings: phase 3, forewarning 2/2 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-09-14 Thread Alexander Sosedkin
On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 6:40 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 11:45:16AM +0200, Alexander Sosedkin wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 7:35 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > > > How about this: > > > > > > Drop the term 'jump scare' entirely. IMHO it just sounds bad. > > > > I'm open

Re: F38 proposal: Strong crypto settings: phase 3, forewarning 2/2 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-09-14 Thread Tommy Nguyen
On Wed, 2022-09-07 at 17:47 +, Maxwell G via devel wrote: > I think this is a bad idea. It's quite hostile to packagers. It will > break rawhide for months and make it very difficult to stabilize the > distro before the beta freeze or do any type of rebuild. It very well > may > affect other

Re: F38 proposal: Node.js Repackaging (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-09-14 Thread Stephen Gallagher
I've updated https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NodejsRepackaging with the results of this discussion. I'll go the `nodejs-$MAJOR-unversioned-command` route. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel

GAP 4.12 and a package review swap

2022-09-14 Thread Jerry James
The gap package has a new version available (4.12), which comes with significant improvements over 4.11. I've been working on updating the entire gap stack [1] for the new version. The spec files have been simplified and made more uniform, which should aid future maintenance. I need one new packa

[WIP][gpgme rebase to 1.18.0] Ask for comaintainership of dependant packages

2022-09-14 Thread Jiri Kucera
Hello, I am planning to update gpgme to 1.18.0 in rawhide and since there is SONAME bump in libqgpgme, I am asking to be a co-maintainer of these dependant packages: - https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/isoimagewriter (main admin: lupinix) - https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/kdepim-addons (main a

Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2022-09-14

2022-09-14 Thread Dusty Mabe
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2022-09-14/fedora_coreos_meeting.2022-09-14-16.30.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2022-09-14/fedora_coreos_meeting.2022-09-14-16.30.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2022

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 05:47:46PM +0300, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: > On ke, 14 syys 2022, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Sept 2022 at 05:28, Alexander Bokovoy > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sadly, it cannot be just 'any' certificate, it has to be issued by a > > > certificate authority that i

Re: F38 proposal: Strong crypto settings: phase 3, forewarning 2/2 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-09-14 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Alexander Sosedkin wrote: > That's a reason why my initial thread [1] has been named > "Landing a larger-than-release change (distrusting SHA-1 signatures)": > flipping the switch is the easy part, unfortunately. IMHO, a change that breaks so many things that you expect it to take more than 6 mon

Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F36 to F37

2022-09-14 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Tue, 2022-09-13 at 16:46 +, Timo S via devel wrote: > $ sudo dnf --releasever=37 --setopt=module_platform_id=platform:f37 - > -enablerepo=updates-testing $(rpm -q fedora-repos-modular >/dev/null > && echo --enablerepo=updates-testing-modular) --assumeno distro-sync > Last metadata expiration

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 10:25 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 14 2022 at 06:58:12 AM +, Tommy Nguyen > wrote: > > I'm not entirely convinced. See this paper: > > https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/1298.pdf > > I only read the abstract of this paper, but looks like the researchers >

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-14 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 15:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 10:25 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > > On Wed, Sep 14 2022 at 06:58:12 AM +, Tommy Nguyen > > wrote: > > > I'm not entirely convinced. See this paper: > > > https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/1298.pdf > > > >

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 18:35 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 15:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 10:25 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 14 2022 at 06:58:12 AM +, Tommy Nguyen > > > wrote: > > > > I'm not entirely convinced. See

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-14 Thread Tommy Nguyen
On Wed, 2022-09-14 at 15:49 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > The hardcore way is to say "welp, too bad, your account's gone, > create > a new one and start over, including going through the maintainer > process again", but that might be a bit *too* hardcore. > > This is a perennial issue, though, a

Re: libFLAC soname bump

2022-09-14 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
Hi Miroslav, On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 04:36:47PM +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > flac-1.4.0 changes the libFLAC and libFLAC++ sonames. There are also > some incompatible changes in the API, but I didn't see any packages > failing to built due to these changes. > > The following packages need to b

Re: Remaining packages in need of a Python 3.11 rebuild

2022-09-14 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 14. 09. 22 16:01, Miro Hrončok wrote: Hello folks! ... Will be retired one week before the freeze anyway barbecue it's an old NEW. I don't always spell "because" as "barbecue". But when I do I copy-paste it to the email 8 times 🤦 -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok

Re: Remaining packages in need of a Python 3.11 rebuild

2022-09-14 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
On 2022-09-14 07:01, Miro Hrončok wrote: Hello folks! luya   dlib dlib @bizdelnick @luya ASSIGNED https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2098694 Bundles old pybind11 which is not Python 3.11 compatible, needs to be unbundled or at least updated. Upstream is waiting for the stable release of Python

Re: Inactive packagers to be removed after the F37 release

2022-09-14 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On ke, 14 syys 2022, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 05:47:46PM +0300, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: On ke, 14 syys 2022, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > On Wed, 14 Sept 2022 at 05:28, Alexander Bokovoy > wrote: > > > > > Sadly, it cannot be just 'any' certificate, it has to be issued by a > > c

Re: F38 proposal: Strong crypto settings: phase 3, forewarning 2/2 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-09-14 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 9/15/22 00:59, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: Alexander Sosedkin wrote: That's a reason why my initial thread [1] has been named "Landing a larger-than-release change (distrusting SHA-1 signatures)": flipping the switch is the easy part, unfortunately. IMHO, a change that breaks so many thin