Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 02:05:24PM -0400, Chris Murphy wrote: > Summary: Windows 10/11 increasingly enables Bitlocker (full disk encryption) > out of the box with the encryption key sealed in the TPM. Two different > issues result: > > 1. Fedora's installer, Anaconda, can't resize Bitlocker volu

Re: Upstream Release Monitoring - bug report

On 26. 07. 22 21:03, Maxwell G via devel wrote: On 22/07/26 09:54AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: If you want to watch activity on a package you want The little 'watch' pulldown under The package description. You can set there if you want to watch bugs, commits, both, etc. If you only wanted to watch ko

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 8:06 PM Chris Murphy wrote: > a. Fix GRUB by giving it the ability to modify UEFI NRAM "bootnext" value, > so that instead of chainloading the Windows bootloader from GRUB, GRUB will > modify the system NVRAM such that the next boot (only) will directly boot > the Windows

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On 26/07/2022 20:05, Chris Murphy wrote: Thoughts? e. Switch from GRUB 2 to systemd-boot for the UEFI installations. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 5:55 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: > > I've been to numerous events where we helped students install Fedora into > dual boot. One of the top 5 questions afterwards (maybe even #1) is "how do I > make it boot Windows by default?". In the old days, that consisted of editing >

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in August

Dne 26. 07. 22 v 17:00 Mamoru TASAKA napsal(a): Miro Hrončok wrote on 2022/07/26 22:40: On 26. 07. 22 15:07, Mamoru TASAKA wrote: Miro Hrončok wrote on 2022/07/26 21:28: Dear maintainers. Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages will be retired from Fedo

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in August

Yes, thank you very much! Pavel On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 4:00 PM Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 26. 07. 22 v 17:00 Mamoru TASAKA napsal(a): > > Miro Hrončok wrote on 2022/07/26 22:40: > >> On 26. 07. 22 15:07, Mamoru TASAKA wrote: > >>> Miro Hrončok wrote on 2022/07/26 21:28: > Dear maintainers

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 4:42 AM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > Since you say systemd-boot can already do what we want in this regard: > > e. Replace grub for EFI systems with systemd-boot ? I wish it were possible. I'm pretty sure the Red Hat bootloader team has no time or interest in it. An

BitLocker (was Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux)

Once upon a time, Chris Murphy said: > This is a good point to underscore. The user experience following a Fedora > installation when Bitlocker is enabled, is the appearance of Windows being > broken or inaccessible. We are probably better off asking Anaconda to refuse > to install when Bitlock

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 12:12 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 26/07/2022 20:05, Chris Murphy wrote: > > Thoughts? > > e. Switch from GRUB 2 to systemd-boot for the UEFI installations. Making it easier to choose to install systemd-boot rather than grub (including signing systemd-boot) at

Re: BitLocker (was Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux)

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 7:15 AM Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Chris Murphy said: > > This is a good point to underscore. The user experience following a Fedora > > installation when Bitlocker is enabled, is the appearance of Windows being > > broken or inaccessible. We are probably b

Re: BitLocker (was Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux)

Once upon a time, Neal Gompa said: > My understanding is that Windows preloads are now blank-encrypted. > That is, there's a BitLocker volume wrapping the filesystem, even with > encryption turned off. It makes encrypting the disk later > significantly easier (it doesn't have to do filesystem resi

Re: BitLocker (was Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux)

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 11:11 AM, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Neal Gompa said: >> My understanding is that Windows preloads are now blank-encrypted. >> That is, there's a BitLocker volume wrapping the filesystem, even with >> encryption turned off. It makes encrypting the disk later

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 10:13:57AM -0400, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 4:42 AM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > > Since you say systemd-boot can already do what we want in this regard: > > > > e. Replace grub for EFI systems with systemd-boot ? > > I wish it were possible

Heads-up: libgnome-desktop soname bump

Hi all, libgnome-desktop (gnome-desktop3 rpm package) bumps its soname in 43.alpha release. This breaks the following packages that are currently FTBFS in rawhide: budgie-control-center-1.0.2-3.fc37.src.rpm chatty-0.6.7-1.fc37.src.rpm gala-6.3.1-3.fc37.src.rpm gnome-flashback-3.44.0-1.fc37.src.

Heads-up: ldc soname bump

Hi all, I'm working on updating ldc D compiler to version 1.30. The bumps libphobos and libdruntime sonames, but I've already sorted out all the build issues and I'm going to take care of rebuilding everything that depends on it before merging it into rawhide. -- Kalev _

Re: Heads-up: libgnome-desktop soname bump

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 6:28 PM Kalev Lember wrote: > > > Hi all, > > libgnome-desktop (gnome-desktop3 rpm package) bumps its soname in > 43.alpha release. This breaks the following packages that are currently > FTBFS in rawhide: > > budgie-control-center-1.0.2-3.fc37.src.rpm > chatty-0.6.7-1.fc37

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 10:13:57AM -0400, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 4:42 AM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: >> > >> > Since you say systemd-boot can already do what we want in this regard: >> > >> > e. Replace

Re: Heads-up: libgnome-desktop soname bump

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 6:52 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > At least in the case of gala, it's already not installable in rawhide > because of the mutter soname bump. > So not being installable due to the libgnome-desktop soname bump as > well doesn't make it any worse :) > Ah, good! :) -- Kalev

Re: BitLocker (was Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux)

On 27/07/2022 17:52, Chris Murphy wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 11:11 AM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Neal Gompa said: My understanding is that Windows preloads are now blank-encrypted. That is, there's a BitLocker volume wrapping the filesystem, even with encryption turned off. It

Re: BitLocker (was Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux)

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 1:17 PM, Milan Broz wrote: > On 27/07/2022 17:52, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 11:11 AM, Chris Adams wrote: >>> Once upon a time, Neal Gompa said: My understanding is that Windows preloads are now blank-encrypted. That is, there's a BitLocker

Non-responsive Package Maintainer for Cockpit Composer

Hello all! Does anyone know how to contact Anthony McInerney (bofh80 )? I have tried to reach out via email but have not received a response. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2111630 Thank you, Jacob Kozol https://accounts.fedoraproject

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On 27/07/2022 18:53, Chris Murphy wrote: Boot Loader Spec defines $BOOT as either EFI System partition (ESP) or Extended Boot Loader Partition (XBOOTLDR), and in effect they need to be FAT in order to fulfill the interoperability intent of the spec, because it is a shared $BOOT across all dist

Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2022-07-27

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Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 2:36 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 27/07/2022 18:53, Chris Murphy wrote: >> Boot Loader Spec defines $BOOT as either EFI System partition (ESP) or >> Extended Boot Loader Partition (XBOOTLDR), and in effect they need to be FAT >> in order to fulfill the inter

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On 27/07/2022 22:19, Chris Murphy wrote: * $BOOT is supposed to be readable by all distros that share $BOOT It will. efifs will be installed to ESP partition. * efifs drivers must be signed in order to be loaded on UEFI Secure Boot enabled systems True. But I think Fedora can sign drivers

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On Mi, 27.07.22 10:13, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > Since you say systemd-boot can already do what we want in this regard: > > > > e. Replace grub for EFI systems with systemd-boot ? > > I wish it were possible. I'm pretty sure the Red Hat bootloader team > has no time or in

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On Mi, 27.07.22 16:19, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > >> Boot Loader Spec defines $BOOT as either EFI System partition (ESP) or > >> Extended Boot Loader Partition (XBOOTLDR), and in effect they need to be > >> FAT in order to fulfill the interoperability intent of the spec, bec

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 4:27 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 27/07/2022 22:19, Chris Murphy wrote: >> * $BOOT is supposed to be readable by all distros that share $BOOT > > It will. efifs will be installed to ESP partition. > >> * efifs drivers must be signed in order to be loaded on UE

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > So, let's say you want to make sd-boot be able to access a legacy ext4 > /boot/ fs. First, fix the GPT partition type of that /boot/ partition > to be the XBOOTLDR one (so that sd-boot can recognize it; currently > fedora for some rea

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On Mi, 27.07.22 16:50, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > I prefer no shim in my computers. I'm using systemd-boot signed by my > > own CA. > > That is not a generic solution we can ship in Fedora. Since each > distro ships their own shim, they'd each have to ship their own > signed

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On Mi, 27.07.22 17:01, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: 65;6800;1c > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > So, let's say you want to make sd-boot be able to access a legacy ext4 > > /boot/ fs. First, fix the GPT partition type of that /boot/ partition >

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 4:47 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mi, 27.07.22 16:19, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > >> >> Boot Loader Spec defines $BOOT as either EFI System partition (ESP) or >> >> Extended Boot Loader Partition (XBOOTLDR), and in effect they need to be >> >>

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 10:31 PM Lennart Poettering wrote: > [...] > > The lack of an upgrade path, I think, is a bigger issue than a > > system-wide change proposal to: switch to systemd-boot on UEFI, > > including FAT /boot partition, for new clean installs. > > I don't think the upgrade path

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 5:07 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mi, 27.07.22 17:01, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > 65;6800;1c >> If the additional barrier to adoption that Fedora imposes is that >> every distro needs to also include signed efifs ext4 in order to >> read $BOOT,

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On 7/26/22 21:56, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2022, at 7:18 PM, Chris Adams wrote: >> Once upon a time, Chris Murphy said: >>> a. Fix GRUB by giving it the ability to modify UEFI NRAM "bootnext" value, >>> so that instead of chainloading the Windows bootloader from GRUB, GRUB will

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 17:37 Chris Murphy wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 5:07 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mi, 27.07.22 17:01, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > 65;6800;1c > > >> If the additional barrier to adoption that Fedora imposes is that > >> every distro ne

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On Mi, 27.07.22 17:15, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 4:47 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mi, 27.07.22 16:19, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > > > >> >> Boot Loader Spec defines $BOOT as either EFI System partition (ESP) or > >> >

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On Mi, 27.07.22 17:35, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: > >> If the additional barrier to adoption that Fedora imposes is that > >> every distro needs to also include signed efifs ext4 in order to > >> read $BOOT, I think it's too much. > > > > I do not follow that logic. First of all

Re: about dnf installonlypks

On Tue, 2022-07-26 at 22:26 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 7/26/22 19:27, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > Hi, > > after searching a lot still can't find how installonlypks package > > list > > is generated > > > > I found these 2 references : > > https://dnf.readthedocs.io/en/latest/command_ref.html > > h

Re: about dnf installonlypks

On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 7:34 PM Sérgio Basto wrote: > > Hi, > after searching a lot still can't find how installonlypks package list > is generated > > I found these 2 references : > https://dnf.readthedocs.io/en/latest/command_ref.html > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/24/html/System_

Re: about dnf installonlypks

On Wed, 2022-07-27 at 16:30 -0700, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 7:34 PM Sérgio Basto > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > after searching a lot still can't find how installonlypks package > > list > > is generated > > > > I found these 2 references : > > https://dnf.readthedocs.io/en/latest/c

Re: about dnf installonlypks

On 7/27/22 18:08, Sérgio Basto wrote: Thanks, I found the issue that I was looking for , in resume kmod- VirtualBox for some reason provides one installonlypkg [1] Because you need one for each installed kernel. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.f

Re: about dnf installonlypks

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 6:08 PM Sérgio Basto wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-07-27 at 16:30 -0700, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 7:34 PM Sérgio Basto > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > after searching a lot still can't find how installonlypks package > > > list > > > is generated > > > > >

Re: about dnf installonlypks

On Wed, 2022-07-27 at 18:12 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 7/27/22 18:08, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > Thanks, I found the issue that I was looking for , in resume kmod- > > VirtualBox for some reason provides one installonlypkg [1] > > Because you need one for each installed kernel. in akmods the thi

Re: about dnf installonlypks

On Wed, 2022-07-27 at 18:12 -0700, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 6:08 PM Sérgio Basto > wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2022-07-27 at 16:30 -0700, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 7:34 PM Sérgio Basto > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > after searching a lot still can't

Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 9:46 PM, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 17:37 Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 5:07 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> > On Mi, 27.07.22 17:01, Chris Murphy (li...@colorremedies.com) wrote: >> > 65;6800;1c >> >> >> If the add

Re: BitLocker (was Re: future of dual booting Windows and Fedora, redux)

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 5:53 PM Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022, at 11:11 AM, Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Neal Gompa said: > >> My understanding is that Windows preloads are now blank-encrypted. > >> That is, there's a BitLocker volume wrapping the filesystem, even w

perl-Text-Bidi-tests license corrected

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