Hi Stephen,
On 5/22/21 1:37 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>
>
> Yes it is a bad situation but I don’t think there are a set of ‘CUPS’
> developers versus one person trying to keep the software going. Apple
> stopped supporting the product and msweet is working for himself now.
> lprint seems to
No missing expected images.
Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)
Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-33-20210523.0):
ID: 892820 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud
URL: https://op
Hello everyone,
Please join us at the next Open NeuroFedora team meeting on Monday 24th
May (today!) at 1300UTC in #fedora-neuro on IRC (Freenode). The
meeting is a public meeting, and open for everyone to attend. You can
join us over:
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On 24.05.2021 09:29, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
You don't need any central web server or special app to be able to print
via the current printer standards, which are driverless (IPP
Everywhere/Airprint/Google Cloud Print).
HP JaserJet P1102(w) and many other HP printers will not print without
insta
On 24.05.2021 08:51, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
OpenPrinting plans
to implement printer applications for widely known printer driver
packages during GSoC [1] and provides a documentation for driver
developers who wants to implement their printer application faster[2][3].
I don't think this is even po
On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 4:29 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>
> (I've added a few opam devs to CC)
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 10:14:41PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > opam orphan 1 weeks
> > ago
>
> I didn't notice that opam had been orphaned
On 5/22/21 9:58 PM, Björn Persson wrote:
>
> So what I'm hearing is that Fedora will soon stop working with my
> printer,
There isn't a specific date for removing the functionality, now we work
on implementing printer applications for widely known and open sourced
printer drivers.
> because if the
No missing expected images.
Failed openQA tests: 8/8 (x86_64)
Old failures (same test failed in Fedora-Cloud-34-20210523.0):
ID: 892886 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 base_services_start
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/892886
ID: 892887 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qc
No missing expected images.
Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)
Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-32-20210523.0):
ID: 892910 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud
URL: https://op
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 10:18:17AM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> On 24.05.2021 08:51, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
> > OpenPrinting plans
> > to implement printer applications for widely known printer driver
> > packages during GSoC [1] and provides a documentation for driver
> > developers who
On 24.05.2021 12:30, Solomon Peachy wrote:
Not only is it possible, it's been done.
For all existing printers in the world? I don't believe.
--
Sincerely,
Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org)
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On 24.05.2021 10:33, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
The future removal isn't due lacking manpower, but due moving to
standardized and less hardware dependent solutions - driverless
standards such as IPP Everywhere. And those standards are supported by
98% devices released after 2010.
HP LaserJet P1102w
On 5/24/21 12:37 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> On 24.05.2021 10:33, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
>> The future removal isn't due lacking manpower, but due moving to
>> standardized and less hardware dependent solutions - driverless
>> standards such as IPP Everywhere. And those standards are suppor
On 5/24/21 12:30 PM, Solomon Peachy wrote:
> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 10:18:17AM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
>> On 24.05.2021 08:51, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
>>> OpenPrinting plans
>>> to implement printer applications for widely known printer driver
>>> packages during GSoC [1] and provides
On 5/24/21 12:33 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> On 24.05.2021 12:30, Solomon Peachy wrote:
>> Not only is it possible, it's been done.
>
> For all existing printers in the world? I don't believe.
I would have a counter question - do you think that all existing
printers in the world which ha
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 08:51:11AM +0200, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
> Except for Gutenprint, I'm not aware of any printer driver provider
> which plans to provide more specific options with a printer application.
> They seem to be okay with AirPrint. So printer application will be
> needed only for olde
On Mon, 24 May 2021 at 03:30, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
> On 5/22/21 1:37 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>
>
>
> Yes it is a bad situation but I don’t think there are a set of ‘CUPS’
> developers versus one person trying to keep the software going. Apple
> stopped supporting the product
On 24.05.2021 13:23, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
I would have a counter question - do you think that all existing
printers in the world which have a printer driver work correctly on
Linux? I don't believe.:)
Breaking what has worked well for years is the worst idea, IMO.
OpenPrinting community plans
Will attend this meeting today
On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 2:01 AM Adam Williamson
wrote:
> # Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting
> # Date: 2021-05-24
> # Time: 15:00 UTC
> (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto)
> # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net
>
> Greetings testers!
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 12:33:45PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> On 24.05.2021 12:30, Solomon Peachy wrote:
> > Not only is it possible, it's been done.
>
> For all existing printers in the world? I don't believe.
For all printers? Of course not. But that wasn't what Zdenek wrote.
A
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 01:48:08PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> Breaking what has worked well for years is the worst idea, IMO.
It worked well for years in the same sense that sysvinit worked well;
with a great deal of bailing wire, angst, and the occasional blood
sacrifice to the el
On 5/24/21 3:29 AM, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
Devices which currently depend on a deprecated functionality - printer
drivers and raw queues - will need a printer application once the
deprecated functionality is removed from CUPS. This application will
advertise the device on localhost via MDNS pro
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20210523.n.0
NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20210524.n.0
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On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 1:55 AM Fabio Valentini wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 1:10 AM Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Next week I'm going to update package hamcrest in Fedora rawhide from
> > version 1.3 to version 2.2.
> >
> > The proposed update contains an API change that c
On Wed, 2021-05-19 at 16:58 +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote:
> Hi Guillem,
>
> On Wed, 2021-05-19 at 02:19 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > So this is where I guess I'm missing something. To be able to make
> > sense of the coredumps there are two things that might end up being
> > relevant, backtraces
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 4:02 PM Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 1:55 AM Fabio Valentini wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 1:10 AM Mikolaj Izdebski
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Next week I'm going to update package hamcrest in Fedora rawhide from
> > > versi
Solomon Peachy wrote:
> On the other hand, the average person wanting to "just print something"
> can do just that without ever adjusting any settings.
Looks like you do not have a duplex printer. (Hint: Printing duplex is not
always what you want. But never printing duplex makes even less sense.
Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
> Printer applications started as a transition technology - a way how to
> support older printers once CUPS removes printer driver support - so for
> now they are here for backward compatibility.
The real issue here is the "once CUPS removes printer driver support"
premise th
Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Solomon Peachy wrote:
>> On the other hand, the average person wanting to "just print something"
>> can do just that without ever adjusting any settings.
>
> Looks like you do not have a duplex printer. (Hint: Printing duplex is not
> always what you want. But never
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 9:26 AM Kevin Kofler via devel
wrote:
>
> Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> > Solomon Peachy wrote:
> >> On the other hand, the average person wanting to "just print something"
> >> can do just that without ever adjusting any settings.
> >
> > Looks like you do not have a dup
No missing expected images.
Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check!
7 of 43 required tests failed
openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING**
below
Failed openQA tests: 21/194 (x86_64), 21/133 (aarch64)
New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 04:58:18PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Looks like you do not have a duplex printer. (Hint: Printing duplex is not
> always what you want. But never printing duplex makes even less sense.
> There's also short side duplex that makes sense in some cases for landsca
If you didn't see my post on the Community Blog[1] last week, I wanted
to let you know that the newly-formed Program Management Team is now
ready to help other teams in Fedora.
Some of the duties that the team can perform include:
* Coordination with other Fedora teams (e.g. Websites, design)
* Co
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 05:14:41PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> The real issue here is the "once CUPS removes printer driver support"
> premise that makes a "transition technology" necessary in the first place.
> The change removes functionality that has been just working for decades.
Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
> CUPS discovery is designed to run on secure, private LAN, so it is
> expected that you have a protection against somebody connecting to your
> WIFI.
That was a reasonable assumption in the 1980s. It's 2021 now, and every
program that communicates must cope with a hostile env
On Mon, 24 May 2021 at 12:29, Solomon Peachy wrote:
> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 05:14:41PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> > The real issue here is the "once CUPS removes printer driver support"
> > premise that makes a "transition technology" necessary in the first
> place.
> > The change r
Solomon Peachy wrote:
> But by "settings" I was referring to things like ink density/droplet
> size, weave patterns, dither modes, individual color channel curves, and
> other minutae that matter for specialized photo/art printing on
> near-arbitrary media. This tunability is where Gutenprint shin
Chris Murphy wrote:
> Consumer printers have trended toward having an RGB only interface,
> making it impossible to directly control them per channel. In effect,
> the print driver is becoming part of the printer's firmware.
My Canon PIXMA MG3650 is definitely a consumer printer (and a recent one)
I want to share with wider audience that with fedora-packager-0.6.0.6 (already
in Fedora stable) you can run
fkinit
or
fkinit -u USERNAME
to obtain Fedora Kerberos ticket.
Kudos to Stephen Gallagher and Tomas Hrcka for making this.
Miroslav
_
Hi,
MLT-7 change to cmake IIRC , and move all files to a different
directory , we are trying keep all in same place [1] since, I think we
don't need two versions of MLT (6 and 7)
We need to rebuild synfig and synfigstudio [2].
[1]
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/mlt/pull-request/3#
[2]
dn
On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 8:49 PM Reon Beon via devel
wrote:
>
> Any update?
As others have said, it takes a reasonable amount of work. Currently
kmod in Rawhide and F34 support zstd, but not F33. Even if this
support was everywhere, it requires a number of changes, and testing
to verify that the
El dom, 23 may 2021 a las 13:59, Sergio Belkin ()
escribió:
> El dom, 23 may 2021 a las 13:10, Sergio Belkin ()
> escribió:
>
>>
>>
>> El dom, 23 may 2021 a las 12:58, Neal Gompa ()
>> escribió:
>>
>>> On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 11:54 AM Sergio Belkin wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi,
>>> > I was reading the s
Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
> CUPS discovery is designed to run on secure, private LAN, so it is
> expected that you have a protection against somebody connecting to your
> WIFI.
That is (still) a reasonable assumption for a home WiFi WLAN on which a home
printer is likely to be located. That is what WP
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 3:05 PM Miroslav Suchý wrote:
>
> I want to share with wider audience that with fedora-packager-0.6.0.6
> (already in Fedora stable) you can run
>
> fkinit
>
> or
>
> fkinit -u USERNAME
>
> to obtain Fedora Kerberos ticket.
>
>
> Kudos to Stephen Gallagher and To
Solomon Peachy wrote:
> The legacy CUPS *direct-attached* model simply doesn't work with
> containerized/sandboxed applications that are all the vogue these days.
So this is yet another functionality regression coming from that
containerization nonsense! Why do we all have to pay the price for
c
On Mon, 2021-05-24 at 16:36 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 3:05 PM Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> >
> > I want to share with wider audience that with fedora-packager-0.6.0.6
> > (already in Fedora stable) you can run
> >
> > fkinit
> >
> > or
> >
> > fkinit -u USE
Since upgrading from a fairly clean F33 (installed from scratch a few months
ago) to F34 I get regular (upon each desktop login, I believe) SELinux denials
on what appears to be a dbus socket from gnome-shell and other components:
type=AVC msg=audit(1621790705.033:963): avc: denied { write }
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 10:41:07PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Except if the non-local printer was actually shared through another computer
> on which it was attached, in which case you needed a printer driver either
> on the computer sharing the printer (sharing it as a PostScript or
Solomon Peachy wrote:
> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 10:41:07PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
>> I have never connected directly to a remote printer.
>
> It works quite well in Fedora these days.
Well, the printers I had when I had a use for remote printing did not
support it, sharing them thr
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 01:27:03AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> All this is of no use if the printer does not actually implement that
> though.
Of course. That's where this whole "printer application" thingey comes in.
> I do not see how that is the common use case. Why would I want t
Endless theoretical discussions ... Interesting, but _is_ there real-world, end-user doc
available for installing and using papp-et-al on Fedora, today? A "do this
now" for end users? TBH, I'm unclear (and no, I haven't gone digging ...)
Here, I've got hundreds of networked printers. _Many_
On Mon, 2021-05-24 at 11:46 -0400, Solomon Peachy wrote:
> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 04:58:18PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel
> wrote:
> > Looks like you do not have a duplex printer. (Hint: Printing duplex
> > is not
> > always what you want. But never printing duplex makes even less
> > sense.
>
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 08:52:13PM -0400, PGNet Dev wrote:
> Endless theoretical discussions ... Interesting, but _is_ there
> real-world, end-user doc available for installing and using papp-et-al
> on Fedora, today? A "do this now" for end users? TBH, I'm unclear
> (and no, I haven't gone di
Solomon Peachy wrote:
> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 01:27:03AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
>> I do not see how that is the common use case. Why would I want to print
>> from my telephone? I do not even normally print from my notebook!
>
> I don't think it's controversial to say that one need
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 04:01:13AM +0200, Martin Kolman wrote:
> > (And incidently, I do have a duplexing printer, a decade-plus-old
> > Brother HL-5340D. Along with 31 others, though only 26 are plugged
> > in
> > at the moment. Isn't driver development/regression testing fun?)
> Wow! :D In a
Hi,
One question about this wiki entry:
"Note that the following memory pressure example requires the changes
listed in “Scope” to work as expected, as systemd-oomd shipped with systemd
v247 does not support changing the time window for memory pressure."
(It refers to this example:
systemctl edi
Björn Persson wrote on Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 04:26:22PM +0200:
> It is however a good illustration of how a network problem can destroy
> the user experience. Five minutes is a long wait. I'm glad that we now
> have this information.
This is an old post but I just used debuginfod for the first time
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