On Tue Dec 8, 2020 at 8:17 PM CET, Dan Čermák wrote:
> Hi Robin,
Hi Dan,
> BuildRequires: golang($url/$owner/$pkg)
> indicates a dependent package that must be available in Fedora. It is
> actually not a macro, it's just a naming convention for golang packages
> (more specifically, this is a capa
Hello, Michal.
Sorry for replying publicly, but I haven't gotten a reply from you to my
direct e-mails since February. I sent a follow-up in August, but you
haven't replied to that one, either.
If you're no longer the contact person for the Open Power Hub, then do
you know who it is now? Or is the
I think the official answer to your question is "nothing: Fedora will continue
to provide the development distro upon Centos Stream and then RHEL are built".
My opinion instead is that we have many valuable contributors that are in the
Fedora community because they have CentOS/RHEL servers in so
Am 09.12.20 um 00:34 schrieb Kevin Kofler via devel:
Vít Ondruch wrote:
As a workaround, if you use `keepcache=True` in dnf.conf, you'd have
copies of everything you previously installed on your system.
I still don't understand why this is not the default. Even for stable
releases, because with
Marius Schwarz wrote:
> it will eat disk space. If you have 0ad laying around in 3 different
> version, that's 1 GB each.
Sure, but that is usually not the scarce resource. And if you need the disk
space, you can always clear the cache manually. Deleting data should not be
the default action.
>
Hello!
On 09.12.20 04:26, Sergio Belkin wrote:
How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/)
affect Fedora?
I think Fedora now needs some kind of LTS.
At least I was planning to support CentOS via EPEL as
a kind of "Fedora LTS".
Best Regards
Christoph
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Hello,
On 09/12/2020 12:12, Christoph Karl wrote:
Hello!
On 09.12.20 04:26, Sergio Belkin wrote:
How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/)
affect Fedora?
I think Fedora now needs some kind of LTS.
At least I was planning to support CentOS via EPEL as
a kind of
Hello!
st 9. 12. 2020 v 12:35 odesílatel Jaroslav Prokop
napsal:
> Hello,
>
> On 09/12/2020 12:12, Christoph Karl wrote:
> > Hello!
> >
> > On 09.12.20 04:26, Sergio Belkin wrote:
> >> How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/
> )
> >> affect Fedora?
> >
> > I think
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 1:15 PM Ondrej Budai wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> st 9. 12. 2020 v 12:35 odesílatel Jaroslav Prokop
> napsal:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> On 09/12/2020 12:12, Christoph Karl wrote:
>> > Hello!
>> >
>> > On 09.12.20 04:26, Sergio Belkin wrote:
>> >> How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:12 AM Christoph Karl wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> On 09.12.20 04:26, Sergio Belkin wrote:
> > How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/)
> > affect Fedora?
>
> I think Fedora now needs some kind of LTS.
Why? What would it provide that CentOS Stream
Hi Robin,
"Robin Opletal" writes:
> On Tue Dec 8, 2020 at 8:17 PM CET, Dan Čermák wrote:
>> Hi Robin,
>
> Hi Dan,
>
>> BuildRequires: golang($url/$owner/$pkg)
>> indicates a dependent package that must be available in Fedora. It is
>> actually not a macro, it's just a naming convention for golan
El mié, 9 dic 2020 a las 9:28, Peter Robinson ()
escribió:
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:12 AM Christoph Karl wrote:
> >
> > Hello!
> >
> > On 09.12.20 04:26, Sergio Belkin wrote:
> > > How does this (
> https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/)
> > > affect Fedora?
> >
> > I think
Hi,
On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 5:33 PM Vít Ondruch wrote:
> Dne 02. 12. 20 v 14:18 Neal Gompa napsal(a):
> > I think that unless it's actually being split out from upstream
> > sources from the xorg-server repo, it would just be easier to call it
> > xorg-x11-server-Xwayland.
>
> That was also my th
Hello,
On 09/12/2020 13:28, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:12 AM Christoph Karl wrote:
Hello!
On 09.12.20 04:26, Sergio Belkin wrote:
How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/)
affect Fedora?
I think Fedora now needs some kind of LTS.
Why? Wha
On 12/9/20 1:31 AM, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
It follows that the solutions are nonnegative under the following
conditions:
* a+b≥c
* a+c≥b
* b+c≥a
which are quite logical. Consider a=4, b=1, and c=1, i.e., disks of 4 GB,
1 GB, and 1 GB. Each of the 1 GB disks can only mirror (at most) 1 of
All this sounds cool, rolling release FTW!
On that topic (rolling release) I have another suggestion - please
fork the thread if that's too OT.
Rawhide is good so far but is not suitable as a productive rolling
release because some packages have debug flags that slow the system
down
(I have measure
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 1:54 AM Petr Šabata wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:57 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 10:13:13PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote:
> > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 7:46 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 10:23:08PM +0100, Petr Šaba
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 8:57 AM Damian Ivanov
wrote:
> Maybe provide a rolling release fedora as well (which is
> suitable for non-debug systems).
>
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RawhideKernelNodebug
-Jared
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(Just to be clear before I start, I was not involved in the decision
process for yesterday's announcement.)
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:29 PM Sergio Belkin wrote:
>
> Hi,
> How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/)
> affect Fedora?
The short version: it doesn't.
Th
Sorry for sending this late :)
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
FESCo meeting Wednesday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-2 onirc.freenode.net.
To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto
or run:
date -d '2020-12-09 15:0
>> Maybe provide a rolling release fedora as well (which is
>> suitable for non-debug systems).
>
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RawhideKernelNodebug
>
> -Jared
Thanks, I thought to recall that it's not just the kernel.
Also mentioned in the wiki link is that it doesn't work with secureboot.
I
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 8:34 PM Marius Schwarz wrote:
>
> Am 08.12.20 um 19:32 schrieb Dridi Boukelmoune:
> >
> >> Petr was so nice to supply a test procedure, i suggest that you use it
> >> also.
> > I'll try to strace stuff to to see what's going on, but I can only
> > assume that this BZ is not
On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 14:07 +0100, Jaroslav Prokop wrote:
>
> If I understood the announcement, it would be a kind of CentOS streams
> is rolling release or a release with short
> release interval. That does not make my job much easier as someone who
> just sets up services and leaves it running
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 4:52 PM Adam Williamson
wrote:
> For some folks / maintenance styles this might still be an issue, but
> it should work OK in quite a lot of cases. It's not like you're running
> Rawhide.
For those that want the equivalent of a point release,
I would think they should be a
Hi Jean-Baptiste,
On 12/8/20 6:06 PM, Jean-Baptiste wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> our localization system, for every single doc component is broken.
>
> The reason is the change of branch from "master" to "main".
>
I do not understand how this happened. Only a handful of Fedora Docs
repos have switc
On 12/9/20 12:33 PM, Jaroslav Prokop wrote:
Hello,
On 09/12/2020 12:12, Christoph Karl wrote:
Hello!
On 09.12.20 04:26, Sergio Belkin wrote:
How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/)
affect Fedora?
I think Fedora now needs some kind of LTS.
At least I was plan
Hey folks!
Just a heads up that the most recent Rawhide compose (20201208.n.0)
seems badly broken; console login doesn't work and 'su' segfaults. I
think the most likely cause of these issues is the new glibc 2.32.9000-
19.fc34 build.
So if you're running Rawhide I'd recommend holding off on upda
Hello!
On 09.12.20 18:08, Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
For those that want the equivalent of a point release,
I would think they should be able to write an ansible
script to upgrade to the point release of packages
that EL 8.x ship with.
Just had the same idea. ;-)
So if I only upgrade to the point
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BINUTILS236
== Summary ==
Rebase the binutils package from version 2.35.1 to version 2.36.
== Owner ==
* Name: Nick Clifton [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Nickc]
* Email: ni...@redhat.com
== Detailed Description ==
Switch the binutils package from
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NodejsLibrariesBundleByDefault
== Summary ==
For Nodejs, Fedora should only package:
* The interpreter, development headers/libraries, and the assorted
tools to manage project-level installations (NPM, yarn, etc.).
* Packages that provide binaries that users
On 12/9/20 7:44 PM, Ben Cotton wrote:
== How To Test ==
* Install all nodejs libraries in Fedora 33. Try to update to Fedora 34.
What is the plan wrt Obsoletes of the removed packages?
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Greetings all,
TBB 2021.1.1 is out, and comes with many improvements. It also comes
with an soname bump, so we will have to rebuild all consumers. I
believe the following is the list of packages to be rebuilt.
Hopefully my repoquery skills have been up to the task.
By package, with maintainers:
On 12/8/20 8:20 AM, Robin Opletal wrote:
Hi,
As I have said earlier, I am trying to package aerc, the mail client,
for Fedora. What didn't cross my mind is that internet access will be
limited during the build, thus the automatic dependency resolution
from the Makefile during the build stage of
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 12:26:18AM -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote:
> How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/)
> affect Fedora?
I wrote a blog post about this last September and I think it's all still
very true:
https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-and-centos-stream/
--
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 02:07:01PM +0100, Jaroslav Prokop wrote:
> It would provide with what is lost with CentOS Linux.
> Let's entertain an example:
> I would like to setup a home server with some locally hosted
> services, but I wouldn't like to update it to new system with new
> software every
On 09/12/2020 20:24, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 02:07:01PM +0100, Jaroslav Prokop wrote:
It would provide with what is lost with CentOS Linux.
Let's entertain an example:
I would like to setup a home server with some locally hosted
services, but I wouldn't like to update it t
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, at 1:44 PM, Ben Cotton wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NodejsLibrariesBundleByDefault
>
> == Summary ==
>
> For Nodejs, Fedora should only package:
> * The interpreter, development headers/libraries, and the assorted
> tools to manage project-level installat
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 08:46:39PM +0100, Jaroslav Prokop wrote:
> Looks like my use case should be included and hopefully with good
> options :).
>
> Although the way of communicating it feels a bit unfortunate.
> I would at least like to see what kind of initiatives are we talking
> about, what
On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 10:34 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Hey folks!
>
> Just a heads up that the most recent Rawhide compose (20201208.n.0)
> seems badly broken; console login doesn't work and 'su' segfaults. I
> think the most likely cause of these issues is the new glibc 2.32.9000-
> 19.fc34
After feedback from several users still doing _development_ against EL6,
we decided to re-enable epel-6 build chroots temporarily (probably till
the end of ELS of RHEL 6, but without promises).
CentOS 6 repos are not mirrored anymore, so the builds are now done
against the repos on https://vault.c
On 09/12/2020 20:55, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 08:46:39PM +0100, Jaroslav Prokop wrote:
Looks like my use case should be included and hopefully with good
options :).
Although the way of communicating it feels a bit unfortunate.
I would at least like to see what kind of init
On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 3:40:47 AM WET Steve Dickson wrote:
> Its a kernel problem... On the 5-9 kernel I tried
> bluez-5.53, bluez-5.54, bluez-5.5 all failed
> with Connection refused (111)
>
> Then I tried bluez-5.5 on the last 5.8 kernel
> (5.8.18-300.fc33)... everything worked again
>
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:52 AM James Cassell
wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, at 1:44 PM, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NodejsLibrariesBundleByDefault
> >
> > == Summary ==
> >
> > For Nodejs, Fedora should only package:
> > * The interpreter, development headers
* Jerry James:
> Greetings all,
>
> TBB 2021.1.1 is out, and comes with many improvements. It also comes
> with an soname bump, so we will have to rebuild all consumers. I
> believe the following is the list of packages to be rebuilt.
> Hopefully my repoquery skills have been up to the task.
Wh
On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 12:02 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 10:34 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Hey folks!
> >
> > Just a heads up that the most recent Rawhide compose (20201208.n.0)
> > seems badly broken; console login doesn't work and 'su' segfaults. I
> > think the mo
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:21 AM Miro Hrončok wrote:
>
> On 12/9/20 7:44 PM, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > == How To Test ==
> >
> > * Install all nodejs libraries in Fedora 33. Try to update to Fedora 34.
>
> What is the plan wrt Obsoletes of the removed packages?
>
> --
> Miro Hrončok
> --
We do not pl
hi,
I see some pagure.io project are automatically handled by this change
could teams register their repositories to be migrated automatically?
if so, what's the deadline to ask for our repositories to be included in this
change?
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Wouldn't "rawhide" be more consistent with the other branch names?
On Thu, 3 Dec 2020, Ben Cotton wrote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GitRepos-master-to-main
== Summary ==
This Change will move Fedora git repositories to use "main" as the
default git branch instead of "master". Spec
Hi,
I'm the maintainer of a python package that uses pytest and the pytest
plugin pytest-django (python-authlib). Under %check I currently run
`%{python3} -m pytest tests/core` to execute the tests. Now I wanted to
do the right thing and change that line to the %pytest macro (`%pytest
tests/c
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/F34Boost175
== Summary ==
This change brings Boost 1.75 to Fedora. This will mean Fedora ships
with a recent upstream Boost release.
== Owner ==
* Name: [[User:trodgers| Thomas Rodgers]]
* Email: trodg...@redhat.com
== Detailed Description ==
The aim is
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 09:21:34PM -, Jean-Baptiste Holcroft wrote:
> hi,
>
> I see some pagure.io project are automatically handled by this change
>
> could teams register their repositories to be migrated automatically?
> if so, what's the deadline to ask for our repositories to be included
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 04:25:53PM -0500, Stuart D Gathman wrote:
> Wouldn't "rawhide" be more consistent with the other branch names?
This has been discussed elsewhere in the thread.
I think we agreed to add a sym-ref between rawhide and main (ie, either
would work).
I can get the change updat
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 08:02:45AM +0100, Julen Landa Alustiza wrote:
>
>
> 20/12/4 20:42(e)an, Kevin Fenzi igorleak idatzi zuen:
> > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 12:45:03AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > > On 12/3/20 4:39 PM, Petr Šabata wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:34 PM Pierre-Yves Chibo
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 08:09:44AM +0100, Julen Landa Alustiza wrote:
> Would be great if we add a deprecation notice (wich could include an EOL for
> the symbolic-ref) to git's output while operating on master branch :D
I think that would require changes on the git client end?
kevin
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>
>
>
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 12:27:10AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 12/8/20 11:54 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > Well, I don't want to keep master around in any form... and yeah, I
> > realize there's going to be fallout. ;(
>
> Maybe we can phase it? First, provide the backwards compatible ref, see wh
On 12/9/20 9:56 PM, Troy Dawson wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:21 AM Miro Hrončok wrote:
On 12/9/20 7:44 PM, Ben Cotton wrote:
== How To Test ==
* Install all nodejs libraries in Fedora 33. Try to update to Fedora 34.
What is the plan wrt Obsoletes of the removed packages?
--
Miro Hron
On 12/9/20 10:43 PM, Kai A. Hiller wrote:
Hi,
I'm the maintainer of a python package that uses pytest and the pytest plugin
pytest-django (python-authlib). Under %check I currently run `%{python3} -m
pytest tests/core` to execute the tests. Now I wanted to do the right thing and
change that l
On 12/9/20 7:44 PM, Ben Cotton wrote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NodejsLibrariesBundleByDefault
...
* Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
Should there be an update of:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/JavaScript/
https://docs.fedoraproj
On 12/10/20 12:47 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote:
On 12/9/20 10:43 PM, Kai A. Hiller wrote:
Hi,
I'm the maintainer of a python package that uses pytest and the pytest plugin
pytest-django (python-authlib). Under %check I currently run `%{python3} -m
pytest tests/core` to execute the tests. Now I want
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 12:53:05PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
...snip...
>
> There were bug reports already that I hadn't found as I was looking for
> glibc bugs:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1905667
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1905964
>
> so, skip fprintd
On 2020-12-09 16:46, Damian Ivanov wrote:
All this sounds cool, rolling release FTW!
On that topic (rolling release) I have another suggestion - please
fork the thread if that's too OT.
Rawhide is good so far but is not suitable as a productive rolling
release because some packages have debug fla
Jaroslav Prokop wrote:
> But apparently some already took on this task [0].
> [0] https://github.com/hpcng/rocky
The official website is:
https://rockylinux.org/
(Still somewhat under construction, of course.)
It was started by the original founder of CentOS with the aim of going back
to the roo
Good morning,
20/12/9 23:24(e)an, Kevin Fenzi igorleak idatzi zuen:
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 08:02:45AM +0100, Julen Landa Alustiza wrote:
20/12/4 20:42(e)an, Kevin Fenzi igorleak idatzi zuen:
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 12:45:03AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
On 12/3/20 4:39 PM, Petr Šabata wrote
On Thu, 2020-12-10 at 03:59 +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Jaroslav Prokop wrote:
> > But apparently some already took on this task [0].
> > [0] https://github.com/hpcng/rocky
>
> The official website is:
> https://rockylinux.org/
> (Still somewhat under construction, of course.)
>
> It w
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