Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make nano the default editor

On 6/26/20 10:33 AM, Neil Horman wrote: If I google how to quit vi, I see a full 10 pages of the answer to the question documented in detail The fact that people have to google their way out of such a mundane circumstance is in my opinion enough to give this proposal a: +1 As background, I

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make nano the default editor

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 12:38:40PM -0400, Ben Rosser wrote: > The -t/--tempfile switch for nano (and pico) does exactly this: > https://linux.die.net/man/1/nano Yeah, I've had EDITOR='nano -t -r 72' set in my .profile for as long as I can remember. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy

Packaging firmwares

Hello, I have a review request for a firmware: Boot firmware (ATF, UEFI...) for Mellanox BlueField: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1846139 I would like some opinions on whether this is acceptable firmware. The binary contains open source code for which the license are documented,

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Packaging firmwares

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 4:36 PM Robert-André Mauchin wrote: > > Hello, > > I have a review request for a firmware: Boot firmware (ATF, UEFI...) for > Mellanox BlueField: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1846139 > > I would like some opinions on whether this is acceptable firmware. T

Re: Packaging firmwares

* Robert-André Mauchin: > I have a review request for a firmware: Boot firmware (ATF, UEFI...) for > Mellanox BlueField: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1846139 > > I would like some opinions on whether this is acceptable firmware. The > binary contains open source code for which

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

On 6/26/20 12:31 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: That pattern will change with btrfs. There will be fewer of some problems, more of others, and the messages will be different. fsck.ext4 is pretty much all we have, all we're used to, and it's a binary pass/fail. Even though we're talking about edge cases

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Re: Packaging firmwares

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 5:21 PM Florian Weimer wrote: > In the Git repository > > > > Mellanox does not provide permission to redistribute the firmware, only > required notices of components that they have used to build it. Just >

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

On 6/26/20 1:43 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: One issue that I have seen mentioned as an issue within the last week is still the problem of running out of space when it still looks like there's space free. I didn't read the responses, so not sure of the resolution, but I remember that being a "thing" wi

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that btrfs is also important for our plans to preserve system responsiveness under heavy load, https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/154. On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 5:22 pm, Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote: For what it's worth, this is really n

PVECLIB version bump (with new IFUNC runtime libraries)

So I think I am ready to release version 1.0.4 of the Power Vector Library. The big addition is multiple (128-bit) vector quadword arithmetic introduced with the new vec_int512_ppc.h. This header actually provides support for 2048x2048 bit multiplies with all intermediate values held in (64x128-bi

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make nano the default editor

The ship on POSIX mandating vi (and defining it's behavior) sailed years ago. On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 4:11 PM Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 10:55, Jonathan Wakely wrote: > > > > > I came here with peace. Let's face it. It's always between the two. I > > > respect vim and I learned

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 03:22:07PM -0400, Josef Bacik wrote: > I described this case to the working group last week, because it hit > us in production this winter. Somebody screwed up and suddenly > pushed 2 extra copies of the whole website to everybody's VM. The > website is mostly metadata, be

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

Once question, are we looking at using a layout like openSUSE is doing? ( https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:BTRFS ) utilizing subvolumes, or are we looking at something like /boot/efi > EFI (FAT32) / > btrfs On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 4:45 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 03:22:07PM

Re: Packaging firmwares

On Friday, 26 June 2020 23:20:38 CEST Florian Weimer wrote: > * Robert-André Mauchin: > > I have a review request for a firmware: Boot firmware (ATF, UEFI...) for > > Mellanox BlueField: > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1846139 > > > > I would like some opinions on whether this

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:11 PM Alex Thomas wrote: > > Once question, are we looking at using a layout like openSUSE is > doing? ( https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:BTRFS ) utilizing subvolumes, or > are we looking at something like > > /boot/efi > EFI (FAT32) > / > btrfs > We are planning on using Fed

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 23:21, Alex Thomas wrote: > Once question, are we looking at using a layout like openSUSE is > doing? ( https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:BTRFS ) utilizing subvolumes, or > are we looking at something like > > /boot/efi > EFI (FAT32) > / > btrfs > BTW that layout. Anaconda still

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

Ok, I thought I saw a proposal by you to change the default btrfs layout to something like openSUSE's using subvolumes, but now, of course, I cannot find it. On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 5:25 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:11 PM Alex Thomas wrote: > > > > Once question, are we loo

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 5:31 PM Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 23:21, Alex Thomas wrote: >> >> Once question, are we looking at using a layout like openSUSE is >> doing? ( https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:BTRFS ) utilizing subvolumes, or >> are we looking at something like >> >> /boo

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:37 PM Alex Thomas wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 5:25 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:11 PM Alex Thomas wrote: > > > > > > Once question, are we looking at using a layout like openSUSE is > > > doing? ( https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:BTRFS ) util

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

On 6/26/20 5:44 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 03:22:07PM -0400, Josef Bacik wrote: I described this case to the working group last week, because it hit us in production this winter. Somebody screwed up and suddenly pushed 2 extra copies of the whole website to everybody's VM

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 3:22 PM Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote: > > I remember that two issues that made me apprehensive wrt. BTRFS were its > handling of the 'disk full' situation, and lack of a staightforward > 'fsck' workflow. I think the first issue has been resolved, and we > probably just

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

On Fri, 2020-06-26 at 14:04 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > [...] > > Surely if xfs is good enough for RHEL, and btrfs is > at least 10x more reliable than xfs, that suggests btrfs should This is a good argument for having Fedora officially support BtrFS as a possible installation option, ye

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 3:44 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 03:22:07PM -0400, Josef Bacik wrote: > > I described this case to the working group last week, because it hit > > us in production this winter. Somebody screwed up and suddenly > > pushed 2 extra copies of the whole

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:17 PM Peter Gordon wrote: > This is a good argument for having Fedora officially support BtrFS as a > possible installation option, yes; It already is a release blocking (supported) file system for install time option. Has been for ~10 years. > BtrFS might have signif

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 05:49:03PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > For what it's worth, this is really needed, and overdue. I have > > repeatedly failed Fedora OS release upgrades on different machines by > > running out of root fs space. I think the default / is around 50GB, and > > it's too ea

Re: Packaging firmwares

On Fri, 26 Jun 2020, 22:21 Florian Weimer, wrote: > Is FirmwareUpdate.efi really firmware in Fedora's sense? Won't it run > on the host CPU? > This is flashed hardware!? Can't mellanox just use the LVFS to distribute firmware rather than having to install a package of blobs you're going to use

Re: Fwd: %forgemeta support for `git` tasks in checked-out code?

Le vendredi 26 juin 2020 à 07:41 -0700, PGNet Dev a écrit : > hi, > > On 6/25/20 11:58 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > forgemeta works in release mode, with release archives published > > over > > http(s). It does not talk at all to source projects using the git > > protocol (and that is intentiona

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

Le vendredi 26 juin 2020 à 23:28 +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko a écrit : > On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 23:21, Alex Thomas > wrote: > > Once question, are we looking at using a layout like openSUSE is > > doing? ( https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:BTRFS ) utilizing subvolumes, > > or > > are we looking at something l

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

Le vendredi 26 juin 2020 à 12:30 -0400, Josef Bacik a écrit : > On 6/26/20 11:15 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 11:13:39AM -0400, Josef Bacik wrote: > > > Not Fedora land, but Facebook installs it on all of our root > > > devices, so millions of machines. We've done this for

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