Re: Aggressive updating (Python 3.9): Are we trying to hard?

2020-05-21 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le mercredi 20 mai 2020 à 22:18 +0200, Miro Hrončok a écrit : > > We could have parallel installable multiple Python version stacks > w/out Modularity just fine. The "only little problem" is we hardly > have the enough maintainers to maintain the 3k+ existing Python > packages. BTW, that’s not a

Increasing the packaging team: regular workshops/vFADs/classroom sessions on packaging

2020-05-21 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hi folks, The packaging team is generally quite stretched, and we frankly need more people helping us out. The main issue with newcomers taking on packaging is that the learning curve here is much more technical then a lot of other areas in Fedora. So, while it is still expected that folks read t

[CI][gating.yaml] Test names starting with org.centos.prod.ci.pipeline.. are deprecated

2020-05-21 Thread Aleksandra Fedorova
Hi, all, if you use gating.yaml to configure gating[1], please be aware that test names staring with "org.centos.prod.ci.pipeline" are now deprecated. New name for the dist-git test is fedora-ci.koji-build.tier0.functional. We plan to switch off sending messages for old test names on Tuesday

Re: Increasing the packaging team: regular workshops/vFADs/classroom sessions on packaging

2020-05-21 Thread Artur Iwicki
I've written blog posts about packaging and gave a talk about it on a local Linux group, so I'd be glad to participate in workshops or some other initiative. One idea that comes to my mind right now is - how about making a video tutorial? While I personally dislike those and prefer text, I know

Re: Increasing the packaging team: regular workshops/vFADs/classroom sessions on packaging

2020-05-21 Thread Kalev Lember
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:17 AM Artur Iwicki wrote: > I've written blog posts about packaging and gave a talk about it on a > local Linux group, so I'd be glad to participate in workshops or some other > initiative. > > One idea that comes to my mind right now is - how about making a video > tut

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Sqlite RpmDB – fedora-review

2020-05-21 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 05:56:23PM +0200, Igor Raits wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > I think you might have cache of buildroot which was populated using BDB > backend, so I guess if you clean mock caches, the problem should go > away. Thanks, the issue went away aft

Re: An Apology

2020-05-21 Thread Ty Young
On 5/20/20 9:36 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 05:22:42AM -0500, Ty Young wrote: I think I owe some in the Fedora project an apology. Hi Ty. Thank you for this. When we're passionate about something, it's easy to get frustrated and upset, and easy for that to get out of hand

Re: Increasing the packaging team: regular workshops/vFADs/classroom sessions on packaging

2020-05-21 Thread Igor Raits
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Thu, 2020-05-21 at 09:52 +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote: > Hi folks, > > The packaging team is generally quite stretched, and we frankly need > more people helping us out. > > The main issue with newcomers taking on packaging is that the > learning >

Fedora-Cloud-30-20200521.0 compose check report

2020-05-21 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 1/1 (x86_64) -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedorap

Re: Increasing the packaging team: regular workshops/vFADs/classroom sessions on packaging

2020-05-21 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Thu, May 21, 2020 11:47:43 +0200, Igor Raits wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On Thu, 2020-05-21 at 09:52 +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > The packaging team is generally quite stretched, and we frankly need > > more people helping us out. > > > >

Re: Increasing the packaging team: regular workshops/vFADs/classroom sessions on packaging

2020-05-21 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Thu, May 21, 2020 09:16:40 -, Artur Iwicki wrote: > I've written blog posts about packaging and gave a talk about it on a > local Linux group, so I'd be glad to participate in workshops or some > other initiative. > > One idea that comes to my mind right now is - how about making a video >

Fedora-Cloud-32-20200521.0 compose check report

2020-05-21 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/1 (x86_64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) ID: 602207 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/602207 -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.i

Fedora-Cloud-31-20200521.0 compose check report

2020-05-21 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 1/1 (x86_64) -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedorap

Re: Aggressive updating (Python 3.9): Are we trying to hard?

2020-05-21 Thread Przemo Firszt
Hi, W dniu wto, 19.05.2020 o godzinie 07∶03 -0500, użytkownik Richard Shaw napisał: > So I get the whole Fedora first, but... > > Backstory: > > FreeCAD has been in a terrible state in Fedora for a couple of years > now and I've nearly given up on trying to maintain the package a few > times now

Re: Aggressive updating (Python 3.9): Are we trying to hard?

2020-05-21 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 5:48 AM Przemo Firszt wrote: > > I think it's time for me to activate.. My name is Przemo, I'm long time > redhat/PLD/fedora user with some experience in packaging. debugging, > etc. I keep building FreeCAD since fedora 20, I also maintain FreeCAD > nightly builds on COPR

Re: TeXLive 2020 landing in rawhide

2020-05-21 Thread Lumir Balhar
Hello. I am trying to investigate a new problem in ipython that is probably related to the update of texlive: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1838474 ipython uses latex to generate png images of tex formulas. Internally it calls latex and dvipng commands. Right now, I have a te

[Test-Announce] Fedora-IoT 33 RC 20200521.0 nightly compose nominated for testing

2020-05-21 Thread rawhide
Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event for Fedora-IoT 33 RC 20200521.0. Please help run some tests for this nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly release validation testing, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_pl

Fedora-IoT-33-20200521.0 compose check report

2020-05-21 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 8/8 (x86_64) Installed system changes in test x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso install_default@uefi: Used mem changed from 147 MiB to 171 MiB System load changed from 0.08 to 0.31 Peak task count changed from 103 to 114 Previous test data: h

Re: TeXLive 2020 landing in rawhide

2020-05-21 Thread Tom Callaway
If your package has a tex file that it uses to generate documentation, and that tex file says \usepackage{foo}, then your package needs to have: BuildRequires: tex(foo.sty) The only exception to that is for packages which include .sty files, obviously, if the \usepackage dependency is met within

Re: TeXLive 2020 landing in rawhide

2020-05-21 Thread Lumir Balhar
Thank you. It seems that it was working previously by accident :) Have a nice day. Lumír On 5/21/20 2:13 PM, Tom Callaway wrote: If your package has a tex file that it uses to generate documentation, and that tex file says \usepackage{foo}, then your package needs to have: BuildRequires: tex

Re: TeXLive 2020 landing in rawhide

2020-05-21 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 7:14 AM Tom Callaway wrote: > If your package has a tex file that it uses to generate documentation, and > that tex file says \usepackage{foo}, then your package needs to have: > > BuildRequires: tex(foo.sty) > > The only exception to that is for packages which include .st

Orphaning kchildlock

2020-05-21 Thread Vascom
kchildlock orphaned. It is for KDE4 and has dead upstream. -- Best regards, Vasiliy Glazov ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.f

Re: Aggressive updating (Python 3.9): Are we trying to hard?

2020-05-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 3:47 PM Richard Shaw wrote: > Perhaps, but they are still too cumbersome for the average packager. > So I would have to create a module for Python 3.7, python-pyside2, and > freecad, correct? Maybe Fedora needs parallel installable "python" and "python-next" stacks? Prim

Re: Aggressive updating (Python 3.9): Are we trying to hard?

2020-05-21 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 21 May 2020 at 08:49, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 3:47 PM Richard Shaw wrote: > > Perhaps, but they are still too cumbersome for the average packager. > > So I would have to create a module for Python 3.7, python-pyside2, and > freecad, correct? > > Maybe Fedora need

Re: Fedora Data Centre Move - What This Means For You

2020-05-21 Thread Kamil Paral
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 10:04 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: > Practically, this means that your build will wait longer to find a builder > available and as a result the whole build process will feel slower. The > builds per say should not be impacted though. > > As a result, if you know today that you

Re: Aggressive updating (Python 3.9): Are we trying to hard?

2020-05-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
Agreed. That a lot of Python is such in 2.7 land I know and understand well and it's not something Fedora can fix without boiling an ocean or two. Python 3.x is good but not compelling for many codebases. Maintainership effort for many projects has dwindled, tech debt must now be paid in one big l

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2020-05-21 16:00 UTC)

2020-05-21 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:40 PM James Antill wrote: > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC > meeting Thursday at 2020-05-21 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on > irc.freenode.net. [snip] > = New Issues = > > #topic #982 Font packaging stopped working in rawhide/F33

RPM package builds backed by nbdkit

2020-05-21 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
Context: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1837809#c28 https://rwmj.wordpress.com/2020/03/21/new-nbdkit-remote-tmpfs-tmpdisk-plugin/ http://libguestfs.org/nbdkit-tmpdisk-plugin.1.html https://github.com/libguestfs/nbdkit/blob/0632acc76bfeb7d70d3eefa42fc842ce6b7be4f8/plugins/tmpdisk/tmpdis

Packages still using %{?_smp_mflags} manually?

2020-05-21 Thread Richard Shaw
Not really a big deal but %build_make has been available for quite a while. I noticed a few of my packages still supply _smp_mflags manually. Is this worth a script and automatic BZ? Probably not, but I think there is an intrinsic value to consistency. Thanks, Richard

Re: fedpkg fork broken?

2020-05-21 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 7:59 AM Dominique Martinet wrote: > Richard Shaw wrote on Mon, May 18, 2020: > > > Seems to work for me: > > > > Don't know what's wrong then... > > I went back and re-read your first mail, it is possible it doesn't work > on one of your own projects? > I'm not sure how mu

Re: Aggressive updating (Python 3.9): Are we trying to hard?

2020-05-21 Thread Przemo Firszt
W dniu wto, 19.05.2020 o godzinie 17∶50 +0200, użytkownik Dan Horák napisał: > [..] > > I think Richard is rather looking for OpenQA for testing the GUI > unless > the FreeCAD functionality can be also tested thru some command line / > text mode interface. > > "FreeCAD -t 0" performs approx 470

Re: Packages still using %{?_smp_mflags} manually?

2020-05-21 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 5:01 PM Richard Shaw wrote: > > Not really a big deal but %build_make has been available for quite a while. I > noticed a few of my packages still supply _smp_mflags manually. Recently, one of my packages switched to meson and while searching through our documentation, I

Re: Packages still using %{?_smp_mflags} manually?

2020-05-21 Thread Igor Raits
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Thu, 2020-05-21 at 17:41 +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 5:01 PM Richard Shaw > wrote: > > Not really a big deal but %build_make has been available for quite > > a while. I noticed a few of my packages still supply _s

Re: Packages still using %{?_smp_mflags} manually?

2020-05-21 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
Thanks Igor, I'll update both ASAP. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Gui

Re: Aggressive updating (Python 3.9): Are we trying to hard?

2020-05-21 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:37 AM Przemo Firszt wrote: > "FreeCAD -t 0" performs approx 470 tests. No GUI required. Example > output starts here: > https://travis-ci.org/github/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/jobs/689681966#L9103 May need some work to get working from inside mock: # ./FreeCAD -t 0 FreeCAD 0.18

Re: Fedora Data Centre Move - What This Means For You

2020-05-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 03:25:08PM +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 10:04 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: > > > Practically, this means that your build will wait longer to find a builder > > available and as a result the whole build process will feel slower. The > > builds per say shou

Re: Aggressive updating (Python 3.9): Are we trying to hard?

2020-05-21 Thread Aleksandra Fedorova
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 6:30 PM Richard Shaw wrote: > > On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:37 AM Przemo Firszt wrote: >> >> "FreeCAD -t 0" performs approx 470 tests. No GUI required. Example >> output starts here: >> https://travis-ci.org/github/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/jobs/689681966#L9103 > > > May need some wo

FreeCAD dist-git check, WAS:Re: Aggressive updating (Python 3.9): Are we trying to hard?

2020-05-21 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:56 AM Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: > On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 6:30 PM Richard Shaw wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:37 AM Przemo Firszt wrote: > >> > >> "FreeCAD -t 0" performs approx 470 tests. No GUI required. Example > >> output starts here: > >> https://trav

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers (incl. GConf2, keybinder3, orangefs)

2020-05-21 Thread Sérgio Basto
Hi, On Tue, 2020-04-14 at 11:09 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On 14. 04. 20 11:06, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > The following packages are orphaned... > > > > > > GConf2alexl, caillon, > > > caolanm, 1 weeks ago > > > > firefox (maintained by: alexl, c

Re: Fedora Data Centre Move - What This Means For You

2020-05-21 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:43 AM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Also, if you are doing some build(s) that you are not in a hurry for/are > less important, you can launch the builds with: --background and they > will run at a lower priority. That reminds me of a story I read, I think in one of Andy Tanenbau

Re: FreeCAD dist-git check, WAS:Re: Aggressive updating (Python 3.9): Are we trying to hard?

2020-05-21 Thread Aleksandra Fedorova
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 7:04 PM Richard Shaw wrote: > > On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:56 AM Aleksandra Fedorova > wrote: >> >> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 6:30 PM Richard Shaw wrote: >> > >> > On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:37 AM Przemo Firszt wrote: >> >> >> >> "FreeCAD -t 0" performs approx 470 tests.

Re: Non-responsive maintainer: glances

2020-05-21 Thread Richard Shaw
I did a local update and tested it, being innocuous enough I went and and updated and am performing builds now. Hopefully madko will show back up at some point. I also did a local build for EPEL 8 but it needs two python packages: psutil & future Both built fine from Fedora master so when I get a

Re: Aggressive updating (Python 3.9): Are we trying to hard?

2020-05-21 Thread Przemek Klosowski via devel
On 5/21/20 11:36 AM, Przemo Firszt wrote: "FreeCAD -t 0" performs approx 470 tests. No GUI required. Example output starts here: That is not the case for me (freecad-0.18.4-5.fc31.x86_64): ... test60 (PathTests.TestPathLog.TestPathLog) Verify track handles no argument. ... TestPathLo

Sundials upgrade on Rawhide

2020-05-21 Thread Antonio Trande
Hi all. Sundials will be updated to the release `5.3.0` on Rawhide, not before next 7 days. Involved packages: dolfin octave python-steps -- --- Antonio Trande Fedora Project mailto 'sagitter at fedoraproject dot org' GPG key: 0x7B30EE04E576AA84 GPG key server: https://keys.openpgp.org/ sig

[HEADS UP] Fedora 33 Python 3.9 rebuilds have started in a side tag

2020-05-21 Thread Miro Hrončok
Hello, in order to deliver Python 3.9, we are running a coordinated rebuild in a side tag. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python3.9 If you see a "Rebuilt for Python 3.9" (or similar) commit in your package, please don't rebuild it in regular rawhide. If you need to, please let me

Re: Strange rpm trigger behavior in koji rawhide

2020-05-21 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 5/20/20 5:54 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: It's entirely possible there its just another file trigger bug, it wouldn't be the first one uncovered by texlive. Please file a bug on rpm with reproducer info and lets work from there. - Panu - Thanks for replying Panu. As near as we can

Re: Sundials upgrade on Rawhide

2020-05-21 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 5/21/20 2:21 PM, Antonio Trande wrote: Hi all. Sundials will be updated to the release `5.3.0` on Rawhide, not before next 7 days. Involved packages: dolfin octave python-steps Have test builds been done in copr or similar? -- Orion Poplawski Manager of NWRA Technical Systems 72

Re: [HEADS UP] Fedora 33 Python 3.9 rebuilds have started in a side tag

2020-05-21 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 22/05/20 03:06 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: Hello, in order to deliver Python 3.9, we are running a coordinated rebuild in a side tag. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python3.9 If you see a "Rebuilt for Python 3.9" (or similar) commit in your package, please don't rebuild it in reg

wrong info on apps.fedoraproject.org

2020-05-21 Thread Jos de Kloe
Something seems wrong in: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/pyproj The header text and upstream point to pyproject-rpm-macros in stead of pyproj. Does anybody know how to fix this? Jos ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To u