Re: Fedora 32 system-wide change proposal: reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem

2020-01-07 Thread Kevin Kofler
Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > While not exactly the same, the measured increase in size > by the Arch community for their packaging by moving from > xz to zstd was ~0.8% (and gaining a huge reduction in CPU > utilization at the decompress end). I don't know what xz settings Arch was using, but in the c

Re: Fedora 32 system-wide change proposal: reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem

2020-01-07 Thread Kevin Kofler
Chris Murphy wrote: > Even at 8% bigger it would be worth it. And probably 16%. I disagree. We need to stop treating bloat like a feature. And please see my other replies for why this is a particularly bad tradeoff in this particular case. > Gaining additional features, like on the fly checksum

Re: Let's talk about Fedora in the '20s!

2020-01-07 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 12:51 PM Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > > Yes, it worked because it was a press-friendly “fairy tale” story, not > because of the cash spent on marketing (or because of the quality of > the marketed product). > It's both, though. Having a good story is part of the answer

Re: Fedora 32 system-wide change proposal: reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem

2020-01-07 Thread Kamil Paral
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:21 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > Kamil Paral wrote: > > Well for the general user, everything is one-time. One download, one > write > > to USB, one install. Saving a minute in one step and adding it to a > > different step doesn't really matter, it's the same sum overall (unl

Re: Big change to free maxmind GeoLite2 databases, limiting distribution

2020-01-07 Thread Dave Dykstra
And whoever maintains RPM Fusion would have to ensure somehow that all users of the rpm update within 30 days ... Seriously, I don't think anybody can put the data up on a server with no per-user authentication without violating the license. Dave On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 05:31:48PM +0100, Kevin Ko

Re: Fedora 32 system-wide change proposal: reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem

2020-01-07 Thread Colin Walters
On Sun, Jan 5, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > I've pretty much concluded Fedora is best off dropping the nested ext4 > in favor of plain squashfs, and using zstd. Fedora CoreOS already uses zstd for squashfs: https://github.com/coreos/coreos-assembler/blob/master/src/cmd-buildextend-

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-07 Thread Mark Otaris
I intended to demonstrate that cgroups can be used to cause the kernel OOM killer to react appropriately and fast enough, implying that replacing the OOM killer is not necessary and that replacing it by a userspace OOM killer that does not account for cgroups can be undesirable. The exact same cont

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal (late): Enable EarlyOOM

2020-01-07 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 1:48 PM Mark Otaris wrote: > > I intended to demonstrate that cgroups can be used to cause the kernel OOM > killer to react appropriately and fast enough, implying that replacing the > OOM killer is not necessary and that replacing it by a userspace OOM killer > that does no

Outage for 2020-01-13: Fedora Infrastructure Staging Environment

2020-01-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
#8504 Planned Outage - Fedora Staging - 2020-01-13 21:00 UTC Opened a day ago by smooge. Modified 4 hours ago Open There will be an outage starting at 2020-01-13 21:00UTC, which will last approximately 4 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrast

Outage for 2020-01-14: Fedora Build Environment

2020-01-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
8505 Planned Outage - Fedora Build Systems - 2020-01-14 21:00 UTC Opened a day ago by smooge. Modified 2 minutes ago Open Planned Outage - Fedora Build Systems - 2020-01-14 21:00 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2020-01-14 21:00 UTC, which will last approximately 4 hours. To convert UTC to

Outage for 2020-01-15: Fedora Prod Environment

2020-01-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
#8506 Planned Outage - Fedoraproject.org - 2020-01-15 21:00 UTC Opened a day ago by smooge. Modified a day ago Open Planned Outage - Fedoraproject.org - 2020-01-15 21:00 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2020-01-15 21:00UTC, which will last approximately 4 hours. To convert UTC to your loca

Re: [minimization] Feedback Pipeline feedback wanted

2020-01-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2019-12-13 at 17:13 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2019-12-13 at 11:17 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > It...*could* also work for non-candidate (i.e. nightly) Pungi 4 > > composes that have been garbage collected by retrieving the info from > > PDC, but this thread has made me re

Re: Big change to free maxmind GeoLite2 databases, limiting distribution

2020-01-07 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Dave Dykstra said: > And whoever maintains RPM Fusion would have to ensure somehow that all > users of the rpm update within 30 days ... Seriously, I don't think > anybody can put the data up on a server with no per-user authentication > without violating the license. Not really

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Move fonts language Provides to Langpacks

2020-01-07 Thread Parag Nemade
Hi, Thank you Igor for your review. On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 10:52 PM Igor Gnatenko < ignatenkobr...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > I think it would be useful to mention in the change page that > langpacks-core-* already depend on "good quality font". If that is > already there, I apologize. > > I th

Re: peek package

2020-01-07 Thread Artem Tim
vokoscreenNG packaged now. Nice to have such app available in official repos. F31: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-a489a2436a F30: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-aa27dbce21 ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fe

Re: peek package

2020-01-07 Thread Benson Muite
Awesome! On 1/8/20 10:09 AM, Artem Tim wrote: vokoscreenNG packaged now. Nice to have such app available in official repos. F31: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-a489a2436a F30: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-aa27dbce21 ___

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