On Friday, December 20, 2019 12:24:44 AM MST Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> Always before upgrade to a new *major* version of distribution, you
> are supposed to read release notes. This will be noted there and you,
> as a user, can explicitly disable it after upgrade. Or even ship your
> own preset which
On Do, 19.12.19 16:42, Ben Cotton (bcot...@redhat.com) wrote:
> Over time, some users experience slow downs in certain flash storage
> devices. This might be alleviated by issuing a periodic fstrim command
> to the mounted file system. Devices and file systems that don't
> support fstrim are unaff
On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 11:59:54PM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > After the initial change of defaults, the fstrim.timer SHOULD NOT be
> > re-enabled on subsequent updates if a user (who like me prefers choosing
> > when to run fstrim on which filesystem) has disabled it.
>
> It's an interesting q
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 01:39:42 +
Mat Booth wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 at 21:13, Dan Horák wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 12:10:00 -0800
> > Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 10:24:16AM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Side note: Considering that there are
On 19. 12. 19 21:10, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 10:24:16AM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote:
Side note: Considering that there are comparatively few armv7hl
builders, I wonder why a rather big share of my noarch builds gets
scheduled to run on them. Naively, I'd think that armv7hl s
On 19. 12. 19 22:47, Neal Gompa wrote:
I don't know if I want *more* alternatives usage in Fedora. I like the
fact that a basic buildroot is generally supposed to work without
scriptlets... On the other hand, I think we're already using
alternatives for ld...
Aside from making it possible to swa
On 19. 12. 19 22:41, Ben Cotton wrote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LTOByDefault
== Contingency Plan ==
* Contingency mechanism: Revert the LTO flags injection
* Contingency deadline: Beta freeze, but shooting for prior to mass
rebuilds starting
* Blocks release? No
* Blocks product? No
Most
On 19. 12. 19 22:42, Ben Cotton wrote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableFSTrimTimer
== Summary ==
Enabling fstrim.timer will cause fstrim.service to execute weekly,
which in turn executes `/usr/sbin/fstrim --fstab --verbose --quiet`
Could we please have a summary that contains at
Le jeu. 19 déc. 2019 à 22:44, Ben Cotton a écrit :
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Use-Update-Alternatives-For-usr-bin-cc
>
> == Summary ==
> Modify the gcc package so that the /usr/bin/cc and /usr/bin/c++
> symlinks are managed by update-alternatives.
>
> == Owner ==
> * Name: [[User:t
Oh, nice! I learnt something new. Thank you!
On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 at 23:44, Carson Black wrote:
> "ale li pona" is a Toki Pona proverb that can mean a lot of things,
> but in this context, it means "all is good."
>
> -- Carson Black [jan Pontaoski]
>
> Am Do., 19. Dez. 2019 um 14:20 Uhr schrieb
On 20.12.2019 10:23, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> So, if this is desirable, why doesn't the kernel do this on its own?
Kernel's TRIM has issues with data corruption on some SSD controllers.
You can check drivers/ata/libata-core.c of Linux kernel sources for more
information.
--
Sincerely,
Vital
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 10:23:50AM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Do, 19.12.19 16:42, Ben Cotton (bcot...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> > Over time, some users experience slow downs in certain flash storage
> > devices. This might be alleviated by issuing a periodic fstrim command
> > to the mount
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 12:25:24PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 19. 12. 19 22:42, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableFSTrimTimer
> >
> > == Summary ==
> > Enabling fstrim.timer will cause fstrim.service to execute weekly,
> > which in turn executes `/usr/sbin/fst
On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 03:47:13PM -0600, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > == Release Notes ==
> > The user /usr/bin/cc and /usr/bin/c++ symlinks are now managed by
> > update-alternatives. If you would like to change these symlinks to
> > point to another compiler, like clang, for example, you can use these
On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 10:39:45PM -0500, Stuart D. Gathman wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Dec 2019, Ben Cotton wrote:
>
> >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableFSTrimTimer
> >
> >== Summary ==
> >Enabling fstrim.timer will cause fstrim.service to execute weekly,
> >which in turn executes `/usr/sbin/
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 15:30:57 +0100, you wrote:
>On Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 14:44 Vitaly Zaitsev via devel <
>devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> Fmt 6.1.2 build completed for Rawhide. It include SOVERSION bump. All
>> dependent packages need to be rebuilded.
>
>
>It would be great to announce thi
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 4:13 AM John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>
> One, didn't we kill the release notes package recently?
Yes, but ...
> Are release notes even
> being written now, or do you have to go and check the wiki for the list of
> Changes?
>
...release notes are published on the docs site as
Hi all,
Ruby upstream is implementing more and more stuff directly in Ruby. We
already had issues, that build of Ruby required Ruby when we did some
modifications [1]. In subsequent ticket, one of Ruby committers said [2]:
> ... snip ...
> BASERUBY is already a build requirement
> ... snip ...
>
On Fr, 20.12.19 13:39, Fedora Development ML (devel@lists.fedoraproject.org)
wrote:
> On 20.12.2019 10:23, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > So, if this is desirable, why doesn't the kernel do this on its own?
>
> Kernel's TRIM has issues with data corruption on some SSD controllers.
> You can check
On Fr, 20.12.19 14:10, Karel Zak (k...@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 10:23:50AM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Do, 19.12.19 16:42, Ben Cotton (bcot...@redhat.com) wrote:
> >
> > > Over time, some users experience slow downs in certain flash storage
> > > devices. This might
On Fri, 2019-12-20 at 17:46 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>
> Or let me ask this differently: the "discard" mount option of various
> kernel file systems, what does it differently than what this new
> fedora feature is supposed to do?
>
fstrim does the discard once a week (or whenever it it tr
On Fr, 20.12.19 18:11, Louis Lagendijk (lo...@fazant.net) wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-12-20 at 17:46 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> >
> > Or let me ask this differently: the "discard" mount option of various
> > kernel file systems, what does it differently than what this new
> > fedora feature is s
I fixed dnssec-nodes (and dnssec-tools), gnomint, lilyterm,
rubygem-connection_pool, rubygem-session, target-isns, tcmu-runner,
telepathy-gabble, and telepathy-salut in rawhide. I thought about fixing
elasticsearch, but there is not enough alcohol for me to touch a gradle
package.
Thanks,
Tom
On
On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 02:52:03PM -0500, Robbie Harwood wrote:
David Cantrell writes:
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:21:45PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
On 17. 12. 19 21:57, David Cantrell wrote:
1) Are modules allowed to bundle packages that are provided by and
currently maintained in the base
On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 12:19:39PM -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 02:52:03PM -0500, Robbie Harwood wrote:
David Cantrell writes:
...snip...
> I would like to see modules have a stronger policy around tracking and
> handling CVEs. At the very least, what Fedora already do
Hello,
I am happy to announce that after two years since the last tito [1] release,
the 0.6.12 is finally out!
See release notes [2]
This very moment, updates were submitted to bodhi [3],
feel free to try them.
[1] https://github.com/dgoodwin/tito/
[2] https://github.com/dgoodwin/tito/releases
Hi,
When replying to digests, I'd appreciate if you could please make an
effort to have the posts thread properly for the rest of us. Fedora
mailing list guidance on this:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Replying_to_Digests
Thanks,
--Robbie
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On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 2:24 AM Lennart Poettering wrote:
>
> On Do, 19.12.19 16:42, Ben Cotton (bcot...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> > Over time, some users experience slow downs in certain flash storage
> > devices. This might be alleviated by issuing a periodic fstrim command
> > to the mounted file
On Fri, 2019-12-20 at 11:52 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 19. 12. 19 22:41, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LTOByDefault
> >
> > == Contingency Plan ==
> > * Contingency mechanism: Revert the LTO flags injection
> > * Contingency deadline: Beta freeze, but shooting for prior
On Fri, 2019-12-20 at 12:59 -0500, Robbie Harwood wrote:
> Hi,
>
> When replying to digests, I'd appreciate if you could please make an
> effort to have the posts thread properly for the rest of us. Fedora
> mailing list guidance on this:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#R
On 20. 12. 19 18:25, Tom Callaway wrote:
I fixed dnssec-nodes (and dnssec-tools), gnomint, lilyterm,
rubygem-connection_pool, rubygem-session, target-isns, tcmu-runner,
telepathy-gabble, and telepathy-salut in rawhide. I thought about fixing
elasticsearch, but there is not enough alcohol for me
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 08:12:26AM +1000, Jeff Fearn wrote:
>
> I think ATM the problem is there is one component for a module so if
> that module has 50 packages in it how do you report a bug against a
> specific package in it?
Well, since one person or group "owns" the module, I would just expe
So, I thought it might be good to mention another list, related to this
list.
Eariler this year we archived old Fedora builds off to seperate archive
drives. This was to allow us to have a smaller set of things that are
active so we could keep them on fast storage, but move the old things
that pe
On Thu, 2019-12-19 at 13:10 +0100, Adam Samalik wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 8:20 PM Adam Williamson
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2019-12-13 at 09:19 -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > > It would be great if they could include the size +/- of all the images.
> > > Of course the most important ones would
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 10:22 AM Lennart Poettering
wrote:
>
> On Fr, 20.12.19 18:11, Louis Lagendijk (lo...@fazant.net) wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2019-12-20 at 17:46 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > >
> > > Or let me ask this differently: the "discard" mount option of various
> > > kernel file sys
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 11:28 AM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> During this, we hit a small number of packages that were built for
> really old releases and inherited into current, active releases.
> In order for them to avoid the archiving process, I tagged them into
> another tag: do-not-archive-yet.
[sni
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 12:34:41PM -0700, Jerry James wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 11:28 AM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > During this, we hit a small number of packages that were built for
> > really old releases and inherited into current, active releases.
> > In order for them to avoid the archivin
Hi, I've been working at Red Hat mainly on tools dealing with upgrades
of major versions of RHEL. I've also developed a tool called
convert2rhel which automates the conversion of CentOS and Oracle Linux
to RHEL.
I've recently open sourced the conver2rhel code and my goal now is to
get it to E
I was heavily affected by this not running by default. I was almost
convinced my hardware was broken,
since there is no warning while having it not enabled, the last
journalctl entries when the system freezes during
a copy operation is from libinput that the mouse events can't be
handled due to so
On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 22:42:02 +0100, Ben Cotton wrote:
> == Summary ==
> Enabling fstrim.timer will cause fstrim.service to execute weekly,
> which in turn executes `/usr/sbin/fstrim --fstab --verbose --quiet`
This is AFAIK not enough for LUKS drives, will it be supported for LUKS?
Jan
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elasticsearch (gradle hellscape)
expresso (abandoned upstream)
infinispan (lots of deps orphaned)
shim-unsigned-aarch64 (will let pjones handle)
shim-unsigned-x64 (will l
On 12/19/2019 01:47 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 3:44 PM Ben Cotton wrote:
>>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Use-Update-Alternatives-For-usr-bin-cc
>>
>> == Summary ==
>> Modify the gcc package so that the /usr/bin/cc and /usr/bin/c++
>> symlinks are managed by update
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 1:37 PM Jan Kratochvil
wrote:
>
> On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 22:42:02 +0100, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > == Summary ==
> > Enabling fstrim.timer will cause fstrim.service to execute weekly,
> > which in turn executes `/usr/sbin/fstrim --fstab --verbose --quiet`
>
> This is AFAIK not eno
Hello.
Looking at
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1423008 I can see
that, for instance, samba-winbind-clients was successfully built for
every architecture, in particular x86_64 and i686.
But dnf reports that only the x86_64 package is available, and indeed,
looking inside
On 12/20/2019 03:33 AM, Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
> Le jeu. 19 déc. 2019 à 22:44, Ben Cotton a écrit :
>>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Use-Update-Alternatives-For-usr-bin-cc
>>
>> == Summary ==
>> Modify the gcc package so that the /usr/bin/cc and /usr/bin/c++
>> symlinks are managed by
On 12/20/2019 05:27 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 03:47:13PM -0600, Neal Gompa wrote:
>>> == Release Notes ==
>>> The user /usr/bin/cc and /usr/bin/c++ symlinks are now managed by
>>> update-alternatives. If you would like to change these symlinks to
>>> point to
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 3:24 PM Tom Stellard wrote:
>
> On 12/20/2019 03:33 AM, Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
> > Le jeu. 19 déc. 2019 à 22:44, Ben Cotton a écrit :
> >>
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Use-Update-Alternatives-For-usr-bin-cc
> >>
> >> == Summary ==
> >> Modify the gcc package
On 12/20/19 12:54 PM, alcir...@gmail.com wrote:
Looking at
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1423008 I can see
that, for instance, samba-winbind-clients was successfully built for
every architecture, in particular x86_64 and i686.
But dnf reports that only the x86_64 package
On Fri, 2019-12-20 at 14:42 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> It's not a library, so it definitely won't be in the 64-bit repo.
> The 32-bit repos have been discontinued, so the only way to get it
Whoops.
It makes sense.
Thanks.
A.
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On 12/20/2019 02:01 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 3:24 PM Tom Stellard wrote:
>>
>> On 12/20/2019 03:33 AM, Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
>>> Le jeu. 19 déc. 2019 à 22:44, Ben Cotton a écrit :
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Use-Update-Alternatives-For-usr-bin-cc
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 5:19 PM Tom Stellard wrote:
>
> On 12/20/2019 02:01 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 3:24 PM Tom Stellard wrote:
> >>
> >> On 12/20/2019 03:33 AM, Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
> >>> Le jeu. 19 déc. 2019 à 22:44, Ben Cotton a écrit :
>
> https://fedora
On 12/20/2019 03:20 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 5:19 PM Tom Stellard wrote:
>>
>> On 12/20/2019 02:01 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
>>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 3:24 PM Tom Stellard wrote:
On 12/20/2019 03:33 AM, Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
> Le jeu. 19 déc. 2019 à 22:44, Ben
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 5:25 PM Tom Stellard wrote:
>
> On 12/20/2019 03:20 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 5:19 PM Tom Stellard wrote:
> >>
> >> On 12/20/2019 02:01 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 3:24 PM Tom Stellard wrote:
>
> On 12/20/2019 03:3
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On Friday, December 20, 2019 8:07:50 AM MST Ben Cotton wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 4:13 AM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > One, didn't we kill the release notes package recently?
>
>
> Yes, but ...
>
>
> > Are release notes even
> > being written now, or do you have to go and check
Hi
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 7:15 PM John M. Harris Jr
wrote:
>
> > ...release notes are published on the docs site as they have always been:
> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/f31/release-notes/
>
> Where are the changes from the previous release there?
>
Do you mean 30?
https://do
On Friday, December 20, 2019 10:59:52 AM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> Issuing the command once per week harms no one
Based on what's actual in the Change proposal, this is not the case.
Even if this goes through, in my opinion, it should only affect the GNOME
Spin, or perhaps even "all graphical" s
On Friday, December 20, 2019 1:53:41 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 1:37 PM Jan Kratochvil
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 22:42:02 +0100, Ben Cotton wrote:
> >
> > > == Summary ==
> > > Enabling fstrim.timer will cause fstrim.service to execute weekly,
> > > whi
On Friday, December 20, 2019 5:33:59 PM MST Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 7:15 PM John M. Harris Jr
>
> wrote:
> > > ...release notes are published on the docs site as they have always
> > > been:
> > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/f31/release-notes/
> >
Hi
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 7:43 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> On Friday, December 20, 2019 5:33:59 PM MST Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>
> No, I mean the things that actually changed between the two. "What's new"
> or
> so on. This looks like it's just general documentation, and not release
> notes?
>
On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 1:43 AM John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>
> On Friday, December 20, 2019 5:33:59 PM MST Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 7:15 PM John M. Harris Jr
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > ...release notes are published on the docs site as they have always
> > > > been:
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 5:42 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>
> On Friday, December 20, 2019 1:53:41 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 1:37 PM Jan Kratochvil
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 22:42:02 +0100, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > >
> > > > == Summary ==
> > >
On Friday, December 20, 2019 7:27:20 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 5:42 PM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Friday, December 20, 2019 1:53:41 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 1:37 PM Jan Kratochvil
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
On Friday, December 20, 2019 5:48:17 PM MST Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 1:43 AM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Friday, December 20, 2019 5:33:59 PM MST Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 7:15 PM John M. Harris Jr
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