Schedule for Mondays's FESCo Meeting (2019-10-28)

2019-10-28 Thread Igor Gnatenko
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2019-10-28 15:00 UTC' Links to all issues to be

Next NeuroFedora team meeting 1600 UTC on Tuesday, 29th October

2019-10-28 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hi everyone, Thanks for filling in the whenisgood. The new time for our meeting is 1600UTC on Tuesdays. You can see the time in your local time zone by running this command in a terminal: $ date --date='TZ="UTC" 1600 next Tue' So, the next meeting will be tomorrow: https://www.timeanddate.com/wo

Fedora-Rawhide-20191028.n.0 compose check report

2019-10-28 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check! 5 of 45 required tests failed, 4 results missing openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** below Unsatisfied gating requirements that could not be mapped to openQA tests: FAILED: compose.clo

Re: [fedora-java] Re: Switching Maven and Ant to OpenJDK 11

2019-10-28 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 6:04 AM Andrew Dinn wrote: > > On 26/10/2019 15:33, Neal Gompa wrote: > > If anything, we're late to the party of moving to JDK 11 by default. > > Java 8 has been EOL for a while now. > Please do not spread misinformation like this. It is very unhelpful. > Okay, sure, paid

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20191028.n.0 changes

2019-10-28 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20191027.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20191028.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 2 Added packages: 3 Dropped packages:3 Upgraded packages: 42 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 81.66 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: [fedora-java] Re: Switching Maven and Ant to OpenJDK 11

2019-10-28 Thread Peter Robinson
> > On 26/10/2019 15:33, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > If anything, we're late to the party of moving to JDK 11 by default. > > > Java 8 has been EOL for a while now. > > Please do not spread misinformation like this. It is very unhelpful. > > > > Okay, sure, paid support continues for two more years, bu

Re: Switching Maven and Ant to OpenJDK 11

2019-10-28 Thread Alex Scheel
- Original Message - > From: "Mikolaj Izdebski" > To: "java-devel" > Cc: maven-ow...@fedoraproject.org, "ant-owner" , > mbo...@fedoraproject.org > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 1:30:32 PM > Subject: Switching Maven and Ant to OpenJDK 11 > > Hello, > > Currently default Java runtime in

Re: Switching Maven and Ant to OpenJDK 11

2019-10-28 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 1:52 PM Alex Scheel wrote: > > I am planning to switch Maven 3.6 and Ant 1.10 modules to build with > > and run on OpenJDK 11, which is the latest LTS release of OpenJDK. > > This also means that future streams of javapackages-tools module will > > default to use OpenJDK 11

fedpkg bugzilla error

2019-10-28 Thread Ben Cotton
Hi everyone, I'm getting an error (below) trying to request a repo for a new package. I have my Bugzilla API key specified in ~/.config/python-bugzilla/bugzillarc (as well as in ~/.bugzillarc, and I even tried adding it to ~/.config/rpkg/fedpkg.conf in a variety of ways). I've confirmed that the AP

Fedora Modularity: What's the Problem?

2019-10-28 Thread Stephen Gallagher
One of the recurring themes in the ongoing Modularity threads has been that we've made references to the problems we're trying to solve, but we haven't done a good job of gathering those requirements and use-cases into a single place. To resolve this, I've written a (fairly long) blog post describi

Re: fedpkg bugzilla error

2019-10-28 Thread Cole Robinson
On 10/28/19 2:59 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: > Hi everyone, I'm getting an error (below) trying to request a repo for > a new package. I have my Bugzilla API key specified in > ~/.config/python-bugzilla/bugzillarc (as well as in ~/.bugzillarc, and > I even tried adding it to ~/.config/rpkg/fedpkg.conf in

Re: fedpkg bugzilla error

2019-10-28 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 28. 10. 19 15:38, Cole Robinson wrote: On 10/28/19 2:59 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: Hi everyone, I'm getting an error (below) trying to request a repo for a new package. I have my Bugzilla API key specified in ~/.config/python-bugzilla/bugzillarc (as well as in ~/.bugzillarc, and I even tried addin

Re: fedpkg bugzilla error

2019-10-28 Thread Ben Cotton
> Or pip installed bugzilla. > D'oh! I had previously removed the pip-installed bugzilla, but not the pip*3*-installed bugzilla. Thanks for the help, Miro and Cole! -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Fedora Program Manager Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis ___

Re: [Mindshare] Re: [Ambassadors] Re: FOSDEM

2019-10-28 Thread Brian (bex) Exelbierd
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 4:15 PM Mariana Balla wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'd be happy to help with the Fedora booth at FOSDEM 2020. Other than the > conference days, I can help with the preparations in advance (e.g. hotel > logistics). > > > Regarding the booth submission, I could help on that

Re: Add a rule to have a compose when Fedora branched

2019-10-28 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 02:09:04PM +0200, jkone...@redhat.com wrote: > > I guess it will be easier to just think about the branching date when > Flock schedule is creating. However, I'm not familiar with the > scheduling so I'm probably not the right person who should answer this. Perhaps Ben Cot

Re: How to figure out why is Python 2 in critpath

2019-10-28 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 10:11:56AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2019-10-25 at 17:34 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: ...snip... > > If those releng scripts are used for this, the PR might actually fix the > > problem. > > Yes, that's what I meant. (Though I don't know if anything's hooked up

Re: Fedora Modularity: What's the Problem?

2019-10-28 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Hi, Thank you for this very useful summary. One general problem with the thinking behind this is that it applies much more to CentOS or RHEL than it does to Fedora. In particular: > users want a solid, stable, reliable, *unchanging* system. In that case, really, Fedora is not the answer. No matt

Re: Add a rule to have a compose when Fedora branched

2019-10-28 Thread Ben Cotton
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 1:43 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 02:09:04PM +0200, jkone...@redhat.com wrote: > > > > I guess it will be easier to just think about the branching date when > > Flock schedule is creating. However, I'm not familiar with the > > scheduling so I'm probabl

Re: Fedora Modularity: What's the Problem?

2019-10-28 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 2:16 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > Hi, > > Thank you for this very useful summary. > > One general problem with the thinking behind this is that it applies much more > to CentOS or RHEL than it does to Fedora. In particular: > > users want a solid, stable, relia

Re: Fedora Modularity: What's the Problem?

2019-10-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 14:38, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 2:16 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > > > *Requirement*: It must be possible for the packager to specify the order > > > in > > > which packages must be built (and to indicate which ones can be built in

Re: Fedora Modularity: What's the Problem?

2019-10-28 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 2:16 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > Hi, > > Thank you for this very useful summary. > > One general problem with the thinking behind this is that it applies much more > to CentOS or RHEL than it does to Fedora. In particular: > > users want a solid, stable, relia

Re: Fedora Modularity: What's the Problem?

2019-10-28 Thread Randy Barlow
Gentoo's solution to "too fast, too slow" addresses every requirement in this post, except for this one: On Mon, 2019-10-28 at 10:08 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Requirement: Packagers must be able to encode whether their output > artifacts are intended for use by other projects or if they ar

Re: Fedora Modularity: What's the Problem?

2019-10-28 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 3:33 PM Randy Barlow wrote: > > Gentoo's solution to "too fast, too slow" addresses every requirement > in this post, except for this one: > > On Mon, 2019-10-28 at 10:08 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > Requirement: Packagers must be able to encode whether their output

Re: Fedora Modularity: What's the Problem?

2019-10-28 Thread Randy Barlow
On Mon, 2019-10-28 at 15:33 -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: > Gentoo's solution to "too fast, too slow" addresses every requirement > in this post, except for this one: > > On Mon, 2019-10-28 at 10:08 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > Requirement: Packagers must be able to encode whether their output

Re: Fedora Modularity: What's the Problem?

2019-10-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 15:21, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 2:16 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Thank you for this very useful summary. > > > > One general problem with the thinking behind this is that it applies much > > more > > to CentOS or

Introducing Square 1

2019-10-28 Thread Troy Dawson
I would like to introduce a plan I call Square 1 [1][2] There are two goals to Square 1. The first is to get, and keep, the core buildroot[3] packages, self-hosting[4]. The second is to get the list of core buildroot packages as small as possible. What are the benefits to Square 1? More stable re

Re: Fedora Modularity: What's the Problem?

2019-10-28 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 03:11:13PM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 14:38, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 2:16 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > *Requirement*: It must be possible for the packager to specify the > >

Re: Fedora Modularity: What's the Problem?

2019-10-28 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 4:11 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 03:11:13PM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 14:38, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 2:16 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >

Re: Fedora Modularity: What's the Problem?

2019-10-28 Thread Randy Barlow
On Mon, 2019-10-28 at 15:35 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > If we could operate on spec files and SRPMs, then the Gentoo solution > gets to be an interesting option. Yeah that's what I'm suggesting - to study Gentoo's solution and to make similar changes to our tooling to achieve a similar solution. I'

Re: Fedora Modularity: What's the Problem?

2019-10-28 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 8:21 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 2:16 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Thank you for this very useful summary. > > > > One general problem with the thinking behind this is that it applies much > > more > > to CentOS o

Some Java packages looking for new maintainer(s)

2019-10-28 Thread Fabio Valentini
Hello packagers, The Stewardship SIG is currently providing only bare-minimum maintenance for some packages, and none of our other packages depend on these anymore. So, we're looking for someone to take better care of them, preferably someone who actively uses them or maintains a package that depe

Self Introduction: David McCheyne

2019-10-28 Thread David W McCheyne
Hello all. New at packaging, here's my first review request: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1766375 I recently started a new DevOps Engineer job at a company that pushes a lot back out to the community, so this is my first contribution while I learn the process. Most of my past ex

Fedora Atomic Host Two Week Release Announcement: 29.20191028.0

2019-10-28 Thread noreply
A new Fedora Atomic Host update is available via an OSTree update: Version: 29.20191028.0 Commit(x86_64): 226643fed3f9806eb3b0d2e4e3a8b83c4a173dc661488b74b19d7cfe587d7b6f Commit(aarch64): ebbf90da555377fd4862cc550808514d69342f2395a4eae700296c2bb9b76872 Commit(ppc64le): d339aa4b2434e0ecf3545e919

Re: Introducing Square 1

2019-10-28 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 8:00 PM Troy Dawson wrote: > > I would like to introduce a plan I call Square 1 [1][2] > > There are two goals to Square 1. > The first is to get, and keep, the core buildroot[3] packages, > self-hosting[4]. > The second is to get the list of core buildroot packages as sma

Short read: "Ten simple rules for helping newcomers become contributors to open projects"

2019-10-28 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hello, While looking through literature today, I came across this paper: "Ten simple rules for helping newcomers become contributors to open projects". Worth a read: https://journals.plos.org/ploscompbiol/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pcbi.1007296 -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" (H

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Modularity Team (weekly)

2019-10-28 Thread nils
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Modularity Team (weekly) on 2019-10-29 from 15:00:00 to 16:00:00 UTC At fedora-meetin...@irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Meeting of the Modularity Team. More information available at: [Modularity Team Docs](https://docs.pagure.o