John Harris wrote:
>On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:36:20 AM MST Björn Persson wrote:
>> Please elaborate. Where does the script come from, what exactly happens
>> by accident, and how would a packet filter stop it?
>
>It could come from anywhere, that's not the point. A *firewall* would stop it
>
Yeah, I completely agree - but that wasn't my intention to try to
convince. I would like additional topics that mirror those in the mailing
lists setup on discourse. That way people can use whichever they want.
The one that people prefer will win. Simple as that.
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:45 P
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 06:58:06AM -0700, John Harris wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 4:37:24 AM MST David Kaufmann wrote:
>> Both option have their disadvantages - in the case of "maintainer opens
>> ports" the ports are open as soon as the package gets installed, and
>> software not run/inst
On 27.08.2019 18:14, Björn Persson wrote:
> If it could come from anywhere, then we must assume that it's malicious.
> You executed untrusted code. It's already past your firewall. Game over,
> you're infected. You're closing the stable door after the horse has
> bolted.
Any application can run ba
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 13:01, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
wrote:
>
> On 27.08.2019 18:14, Björn Persson wrote:
> > If it could come from anywhere, then we must assume that it's malicious.
> > You executed untrusted code. It's already past your firewall. Game over,
> > you're infected. You're closing
On 8/27/19 11:00 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
Why is it when I say that I don't want to clutter up my email with
mail from mailing lists I'm told it's a misconfiguration. It's not a
misconfiguration. I don't want the forum email cluttering up my mail
- and I don't want to use an NNTP gateway, I w
* Pierre-Yves Chibon [26/08/2019 09:44] :
>
> Our recommended solution is to find someone that would maintain the mailman3
> stack for us.
Does this have to be mailman3 or can it be a different mailing list manager?
Emmanuel
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On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 2:31 PM Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
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> * Pierre-Yves Chibon [26/08/2019 09:44] :
> >
> > Our recommended solution is to find someone that would maintain the mailman3
> > stack for us.
>
> Does this have to be mailman3 or can it be a different mailing list manager?
>
Mailman 3
On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:21 AM Miro Hrončok wrote:
>
> The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they
> are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure
> that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason:
> https://fedoraproj
We are retiring python2 and introducing python27 later this week. Rawhide only.
As for now, nothing should break, except python2-debug will exist no more.
Packages (build)requiring python2 or python2-devel should continue to work for
now. If not, let us know.
If you plan to keep a Python 2 pa
I am about to build gap-pkg-guava 3.15 in Rawhide. This version
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On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 9:15:16 AM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> Yeah, I completely agree - but that wasn't my intention to try to
> convince. I would like additional topics that mirror those in the mailing
> lists setup on discourse. That way people can use whichever they want.
> The one that p
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:02:31 AM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> I never said they were. What I said was expecting and requiring Discourse
> to 100% replicate everything a mailing list does isn't going to happen and
> shouldn't be a requirement.
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:55 AM John Harris
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 7:14:45 AM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> I would assume you would just use mailing list mode and address
> additional recipients. To receive an expert reply I would suggest you ask
> the question here:
>
> https://meta.discourse.org/c/support
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 9:14:10 AM MST Björn Persson wrote:
> John Harris wrote:
> >On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:36:20 AM MST Björn Persson wrote:
> >> Please elaborate. Where does the script come from, what exactly happens
> >> by accident, and how would a packet filter stop it?
> >
> >It cou
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:54 PM John Harris wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 9:14:10 AM MST Björn Persson wrote:
> > John Harris wrote:
> > >On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:36:20 AM MST Björn Persson wrote:
> > >> Please elaborate. Where does the script come from, what exactly happens
> > >> b
On Tue, 2019-08-27 at 15:06 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
> mcatanz...@gnome.org píše v Út 27. 08. 2019 v 15:07 +0300:
> > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:22 AM, John Harris
> > wrote:
> > > No, that is not how this works, at all. First, let's go ahead and
> > > address the
> > > idea that "if the firew
I'm not sure why this isn't clear, but the examples that I provided are far
from the only aspects, and I notice you're only addressing the ones that
require the user to manually run something.
Consider this. Our default ssh config, under your firewall config, would allow
any system on any netwo
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 10:09:12 AM MST Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 13:01, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 27.08.2019 18:14, Björn Persson wrote:
> >
> > > If it could come from anywhere, then we must assume that it's
> > > malicious.
> > > You exe
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 9:59:23 AM MST David Kaufmann wrote:
> I'm not trying to recommend it, this is already done, e.g. for mdns,
> samba-client, or ssh. (To be fair that happens on os install, not
> necessarily on package install)
> I'm trying to list the problems with those options.
There
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:04:46 AM MST Louis Lagendijk wrote:
> On Tue, 2019-08-27 at 10:14 -0400, Robert Marcano wrote:
>
> > On 8/27/19 10:03 AM, John Harris wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > Any new Wifi connection could be identified by their SSID, so it
> > could
> > still be secure by default
Hi guys,
I apologize that I mystified you a little in my prefious email when I wrote that
I resolved majority of problems. I looked at that closer today after 1.5w and
found that I have been near the start of all troubles. My memory just washed
that pain out.
So I spend some time around and final
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:23:01 AM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 6:22 AM Neal Gompa wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > The other major non-Linux operating systems do. Both Microsoft Windows
> > and Apple macOS ship with active firewalls by default.
>
>
> The firewall on macOS is disab
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:23:01 AM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> The firewall on macOS is disabled by default. Therefore I can't agree
> with any assessment that Fedora Workstation is, on this point alone,
> in some sort of vulnerable state outside that of macOS.
Talked to a coworker, who is a hea
MacOS has firewall disabled by default on every iteration.
Luya
On 2019-08-27 4:23 p.m., John Harris wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:23:01 AM MST Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Tue, Aug
> 27, 2019 at 6:22 AM Neal Gompa
wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> The other major non-Linux operating systems do.
Both
On 8/27/2019 4:01 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2019-08-27 at 15:06 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
mcatanz...@gnome.org píše v Út 27. 08. 2019 v 15:07 +0300:
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:22 AM, John Harris
wrote:
No, that is not how this works, at all. First, let's go ahead and
address the
id
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:02 PM Adam Williamson
wrote:
>
> However, Fedora Workstation is an edition. Which means it has a
> *policy-defined* target audience. That target audience is defined here:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Workstation_PRD#Target_Audience
>
> Case 1: "Engineering
People keep mentioning HyperKitty as an alternative to Discourse. While I
believe Discourse has more functionality, one thing that would make HyperKitty
a somewhat acceptable alternative would be the addition of RSS support. So I
started to investigate and found that several tickets were opene
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:24 PM John Harris wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:23:01 AM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> > Windows is enable by default with two "zones" or "policies" (I can't
> > even tell from their own UI what to call this), one for private
> > networks, and another for guest/pu
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:02:36 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> People keep mentioning HyperKitty as an alternative to Discourse. While I
> believe Discourse has more functionality, one thing that would make
> HyperKitty a somewhat acceptable alternative would be the addition of RSS
> support.
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:30 PM John Harris wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:23:01 AM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> > The firewall on macOS is disabled by default. Therefore I can't agree
> > with any assessment that Fedora Workstation is, on this point alone,
> > in some sort of vulnerable st
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:05:57 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:24 PM John Harris wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:23:01 AM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
>
>
>
> > > Windows is enable by default with two "zones" or "policies" (I can't
> > > even tell from
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 4:49:03 PM MST Japheth Cleaver wrote:
> On 8/27/2019 4:01 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2019-08-27 at 15:06 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
> >
> >> mcatanz...@gnome.org píše v Út 27. 08. 2019 v 15:07 +0300:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:22 AM, John Har
> > That actually isn't clear at all. And I am the end user and sysadmin.
> > I'm at home, I have my own AP, but none of the equipment is under my
> > direct control, it's centrally managed by a company I don't even pay.
> > So, is it trustworthy? Maybe. Maybe not. I have no practical way of
> > kn
Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> If the requirement is that discourse completely replicate 100% the
> functionality of mailing lists, that is unreasonable and isn't going to
> happen.
If the plan is to replace mailing lists with something that cannot even
provide the same functionality, that is unreasonabl
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 4:58:15 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:02 PM Adam Williamson
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > However, Fedora Workstation is an edition. Which means it has a
> > *policy-defined* target audience. That target audience is defined here:
> > https://fedorapro
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:15:52 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> > > That actually isn't clear at all. And I am the end user and sysadmin.
> > > I'm at home, I have my own AP, but none of the equipment is under my
> > > direct control, it's centrally managed by a company I don't even pay.
> > > So,
Vít Ondruch wrote:
> I think that all the major milestones happen typically on Tuesday, so
> this must have been (unfortunate) typo IMO.
But the point is that this was corrected less than 24 hours before the
freeze kicks in. This is a completely unacceptably short notice.
It is already bad enoug
Hey Kevin:
> Gerald B. Cox wrote:
>
> If the plan is to replace mailing lists with something that cannot even
> provide the same functionality, that is unreasonable and isn't going to
> happen.
>
>
> But you are assuming that we actually WANT to migrate, which is NOT the
> case.
>
LOL
> On 8/27/19 11:00 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
>
> Would your concerns be addressed if tjere was a gateway from this email
> list to Discord? Would something simple that just stores each email in a
> separate Discord item work, and if not, why?
>
> BTW, is there a gateway of this sort already some
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:36:58 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> Hey Kevin:
>
>
> > Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> >
> > If the plan is to replace mailing lists with something that cannot even
> > provide the same functionality, that is unreasonable and isn't going to
> > happen.
> >
> >
> > But yo
> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:02:36 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
>
>
>
> You could also just use NNTP, which wouldn't require you to have anything in
> your mailbox. Then you can reply from the same client, as well :)
Yeah, Kevin mentioned NNTP also... but as I mentioned to him I haven't use
On 8/27/19 4:27 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 27. 08. 19 13:06, Paul Howarth wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 20:55:18 -0400
>> Mohan Boddu wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Today's an important day on the Fedora 31 schedule[1], with several
>>> significant cut-offs. First of all today is
>>> the Bodhi ac
> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:36:58 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
>
> How exactly do your RSS feedreaders handle threading?
Don't you mean how HyperKitty will handle it? I won't be responding from my
Feedreader, I would be reading the contents from the feed, and if I was
interested in replying,
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:58:11 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:36:58 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> >
> > How exactly do your RSS feedreaders handle threading?
>
> Don't you mean how HyperKitty will handle it? I won't be responding from my
> Feedreader, I would
Show what? Sorry, I don't know what your talking about. Have you ever
used RSS? When you subscribe to a feed, you get the article... in this
case it would be the email in HyperKitty. When you click on the title, it
opens up the sourced article on the web. In this case it would be the
email wi
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 6:03:37 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> Show what? Sorry, I don't know what your talking about. Have you ever
> used RSS? When you subscribe to a feed, you get the article... in this
> case it would be the email in HyperKitty. When you click on the title, it
> opens u
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:43:54 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:02:36 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > You could also just use NNTP, which wouldn't require you to have anything
> > in your mailbox. Then you can reply from the same client,
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:20 PM Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> Well, there is an open ticket to do just that - apparently some people
> have a bigger imagination. ;-)
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:08 PM John Harris wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:43:54 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
>> > > On
Well, there is an open ticket to do just that - apparently some people have
a bigger imagination. ;-)
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:08 PM John Harris wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:43:54 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:02:36 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > >
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 6:20:57 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> Well, there is an open ticket to do just that - apparently some people have
> a bigger imagination. ;-)
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:08 PM John Harris wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:43:54 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
>
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 6:23 PM John Harris wrote:
>
> sshd was enabled by default back in F23, unless my install was completely
> broken. I wouldn't remember that well, unfortunately, as I've been running KDE
> since the end of the F24 release cycle.
I don't think so.
* Fri Mar 13 2015 Dennis Gi
Don't know what to tell you... it was a planned feature for Mailman 3, and
it is mentioned here:
https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/issues/51
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:23 PM John Harris wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 6:20:57 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > Well, there is an open ticket
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 6:27:49 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> Don't know what to tell you... it was a planned feature for Mailman 3, and
> it is mentioned here:
> https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/issues/51
What leads you to believe this was a planned feature?
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On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:32 PM John Harris wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 6:27:49 PM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > Don't know what to tell you... it was a planned feature for Mailman 3,
> and
> > it is me
On 19-08-27 19:58:15, Chris Murphy wrote:
...
I definitely do not want to pester developers, or make their day to
day life difficult. If there's no satisfactory GUI right now to manage
it, it's difficult to even experiment with different policies. The
original firewalld proposal considered the g
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:20 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I released new version of Mock and mock-core-configs. For full release notes
> see:
> https://github.com/rpm-software-management/mock/wiki/Release-Notes-1.4.18
> I just submitted packages to Bodhi.
>
> I would like to point two th
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 9:27 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 6:23 PM John Harris wrote:
> >
> > sshd was enabled by default back in F23, unless my install was completely
> > broken. I wouldn't remember that well, unfortunately, as I've been running
> > KDE
> > since the end of
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:26 PM Christopher wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 9:27 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> > The Workstation technical specification document says in part:
>
> Where is the full technical specification document, so one can read it
> not in part, but in full?
https://fedorapr
On Tue, 2019-08-27 at 17:11 -0700, John Harris wrote:
> Workstation ships with sshd enabled by default, unless something has changed.
It doesn't. This was definitely a conscious decision related to the
firewall policy. See
/usr/lib/systemd/system-preset/80-workstation.preset , where sshd is
explic
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 10:03:51 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Technical_Specification
>
> The discussion and decision to not include firewall-config (GUI
> configuration application for firewalld) by default, five years ago
> https://lists.fedoraproje
I'd like to take ownership of orphaned ladspa-swh-plugins package,
because it's needed by some other packages I maintain.
For some reason I missed the orphaning announcement, I'm sorry for that.
What are the next steps to unorphan it?
Thanks.
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Ciao
Guido
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