Hello team,
f31-backgrounds is ready for review needed for Fedora 31 release:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1745846
The SPEC files is basically identical to the previous f30-backgrounds
meaning the process is very
trivial. The full rpm files are available on COPR repository as well
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:59 AM, Christopher
wrote:
The current status is that the Workstation WG never came up with a
solution in 5 years, and new people are finding this default
configuration and getting upset about the failure of Fedora
Workstation to meet basic security expectations.
Since
On 27.08.2019 9:32, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
> This doesn't seem like a serious effort to think about how a firewall
> could be useful, it just seems like an effort to break software.
The current behavior makes a huge security breach in system. It
definitely need to be fixed.
Someone need to i
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 12:59:01 AM MST Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> On 27.08.2019 9:32, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
>
> > This doesn't seem like a serious effort to think about how a firewall
> > could be useful, it just seems like an effort to break software.
>
>
> The current behavio
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 12:32:26 AM MST mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:59 AM, Christopher
>
> wrote:
> > The current status is that the Workstation WG never came up with a
> > solution in 5 years, and new people are finding this default
> > configuration and getting u
On Monday, August 26, 2019 10:17:46 PM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 8/26/19 9:39 PM, John Harris wrote:
>
> > I'm not saying not to use containers. There is a right way to do it, and
> > a
> > wrong way to do it. A container should be as the name describes, a
> > containerized installation of the d
Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> What issues are you referring to? I don't believe it is reasonable to
> believe everything would work exactly the same with Discourse - but close
> enough should be sufficient. There are also myriad advantages to
> Discourse. Others are also looking at this:
> https://dis
Mohan Boddu wrote on 2019/08/27 9:55:
Hi all,
Today is also the Beta freeze[4]. This means that only packages which fix
accepted blocker or freeze exception
bugs[5][6] will be marked as 'stable' and included in the Beta composes.
Other builds will remain in updates-
testing until the Beta re
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 12:08 PM Fabio Valentini wrote:
>
> Hello packagers,
>
> The Stewardship SIG is currently providing only bare-minimum
> maintenance for some Java packages, and none of our packages depend on
> them anymore.
> So, we're looking for someone to take better care of them, prefer
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:14 PM Mamoru TASAKA
wrote:
> Mohan Boddu wrote on 2019/08/27 9:55:
> > Hi all,
>
> >
> >
> > Today is also the Beta freeze[4]. This means that only packages which fix
> > accepted blocker or freeze exception
> > bugs[5][6] will be marked as 'stable' and included in the
On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 20:55:18 -0400
Mohan Boddu wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Today's an important day on the Fedora 31 schedule[1], with several
> significant cut-offs. First of all today is
> the Bodhi activation point [2]. That means that from now all Fedora 31
> packages must be submitted to
> updates
No missing expected images.
Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check!
22 of 45 required tests failed, 15 results missing
openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING**
below
Unsatisfied gating requirements that could not be mapped to openQA tests:
MISSING: fedora.W
On 27. 08. 19 13:06, Paul Howarth wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 20:55:18 -0400
Mohan Boddu wrote:
Hi all,
Today's an important day on the Fedora 31 schedule[1], with several
significant cut-offs. First of all today is
the Bodhi activation point [2]. That means that from now all Fedora 31
package
On 27. 08. 19 12:50, Parag Nemade wrote:> I too got confused because I have
already recorded 29th August as Beta Freeze in
my calendar. I see that Ben has edited the Schedule page[1] but I am yet to see
if there is any accompanying FESCo ticket approval for this change.
That totally confused me
Dne 27. 08. 19 v 12:50 Parag Nemade napsal(a):
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:14 PM Mamoru TASAKA
> mailto:mtas...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote:
>
> Mohan Boddu wrote on 2019/08/27 9:55:
> > Hi all,
>
> >
> >
> > Today is also the Beta freeze[4]. This means that only package
On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:21 AM Miro Hrončok wrote:
>
> The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they
> are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure
> that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason:
> https://fedoraproj
Jason Montleon wrote:
> And even if they implemented it your way you are expecting that the
> developer of the application and all the libraries it uses have
> written perfect bug free code with zero vulnerabilities.
You wanted to block VNC with a packet filter and kludge it into an SSH
tunnel. On
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:28:33AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Anyway, it would be nice to get the security team's input on this.
As the security team currently does not have any meetings that I know of
I'll try to answer this from my point of view.
In my opinion this is a very difficult questio
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 09:40, wrote:
>
> If there is a separate team of firewall developers that would be interested
> in writing a new style of firewall, then I'm sure the WG would be happy to
> reopen discussion of the issue, including a discussion of requirements, etc.
> But I highly doubt a
On 27. 08. 19 13:33, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:21 AM Miro Hrončok wrote:
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they
are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure
that the package should be retired, please do so now
On 8/27/2019 7:33 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
compat-openssl10 orphan 2 weeks ago
This one is concerning. A quick repoquery on F31 shows that it's still
required by:
bacula2-client-0:2.4.4-33.fc30.x86_64
...
w3m-0:0.5.3-43.git20180125.fc31.x86_64
openSSL 1.1.1c is the latest, seems like these
Dne 27. 08. 19 v 13:33 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a):
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:21 AM Miro Hrončok wrote:
>> The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they
>> are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure
>> that the package should be retired, ple
Hi all,
the svnmailer package has recently been orphaned and will be retired if
nobody picks it up.
The package provides a tool to email emailed notifications of events in
subversion repositories. It is written in Python (2) and is dead
upstream. Anyone looking to take over the package should bea
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20190826.n.0
NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20190827.n.0
= SUMMARY =
Added images:0
Dropped images: 0
Added packages: 118
Dropped packages:5
Upgraded packages: 114
Downgraded packages: 0
Size of added packages: 998.36 MiB
Size of dropped packages
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 01:22 John Harris wrote:
[snip]
> No online updates is the exact issue I see with this. That's a security
> nightmare.
>
> If you don't have a package manager there, it simply will not be updated.
> It'll be installed once, then either left there forever, un-updated, with
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:23 AM, John Harris
wrote:
At least in KDE, possibly not in GNOME as it lacks many of the
features
available in KDE, you can specify the zone of the connection in your
NetworkManager configuration GUI.
We used to have this for a long time, but removed it recently beca
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:22 AM, John Harris
wrote:
No, that is not how this works, at all. First, let's go ahead and
address the
idea that "if the firewall blocks it, the app breaks, so it's the
firewall's
fault": It's not. If the firewall has not been opened, that just
means it
can't be acce
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:14 AM, John Harris
wrote:
Please consider the security aspect of this. This is a critical
vulnerability.
Please, don't make us look like the Linux Mint folks. If Workstation
is to be
a viable product, especially if it's going to be advertised
prominently, as
the pri
Thanks for the input, David.
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 2:37 PM, David Kaufmann wrote:
If there is a switch to "default reject" it is also very important
that
the process to open up a port is easier than to disable the firewall
completely or injecting an "accept anything" rule. (e.g. by
document
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Iñaki Ucar
wrote:
There's no need to write "a new style of firewall". It would be as
easy as asking the user once whether a new connection is trusted or
not. That's it.
But, well, how do you do that? What do you show to the user?
__
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 8:11 AM wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:14 AM, John Harris wrote:
>
> Please consider the security aspect of this. This is a critical
> vulnerability. Please, don't make us look like the Linux Mint folks. If
> Workstation is to be a viable product, especially if it
I read all the comments and my response is this...
First of all, there is no limit to the amount of emails that discourse will
send out. That is a site parameter, and whomever supports it for Fedora
needs to change it:
https://meta.discourse.org/t/daily-limits-for-outgoing-mails-per-user/41458
I
On 8/27/19 8:06 AM, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:23 AM, John Harris wrote:
At least in KDE, possibly not in GNOME as it lacks many of the
features available in KDE, you can specify the zone of the connection
in your NetworkManager configuration GUI.
We used to have t
Good job finding old links. Archeology is useful for discussions like
this.
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:59 AM, Christopher
wrote:
The current status is that the Workstation WG never came up with a
solution in 5 years
To be clear, the status quo is our solution. This blog post describes
the r
On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 2:33 PM Igor Gnatenko
wrote:
> I see that there is no Fedora 31. Is anybody working on creating that
> and moving rawhide forward to 32?
Koschei branching is now complete. Sorry for the delay - it was caused
by scheduled vacation of mine [1,2] as well as other unexpected
e
On 8/27/19 8:18 AM, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Iñaki Ucar wrote:
There's no need to write "a new style of firewall". It would be as
easy as asking the user once whether a new connection is trusted or
not. That's it.
But, well, how do you do that? What do you
John Harris wrote:
> It also prevents one from running software, open to the world, by accident,
> whether that means piping a script to bash
Please elaborate. Where does the script come from, what exactly happens
by accident, and how would a packet filter stop it?
> badly written scripts, poorl
On 8/1/19 3:34 AM, Clement Verna wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > The Fedora Infrastructure is planning to retire the infinote [0]
> > service. This service allows text collaboration using the Gobby
> > client[1] and was mainly used by the Infrastructure team to coordinate
> > our weekly meeting and
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 8:10 AM wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:22 AM, John Harris wrote:
>
> No, that is not how this works, at all. First, let's go ahead and address
> the idea that "if the firewall blocks it, the app breaks, so it's the
> firewall's fault": It's not. If the firewall has no
Robert Marcano wrote:
> Maybe, now that NetworkManager implements now its own DHCP client, if
> the IP received is not an private address (RFC 1918 for IPv4, some other
> consideration should be done for IPv6), Notify the user the connection
> is in a secure mode with an option to disable the se
Not to mention that firewalld has the concept of services. I never
have to know a port number to expose a service if it's defined.
`firewall-cmd --add-service=postgresql`... that could just as well be
done with a UI without ever showing a port number to a user.
If applications that need ports expo
On 27 August 2019 14:23:48 CEST, "Gerald B. Cox" wrote:
>I read all the comments and my response is this...
>First of all, there is no limit to the amount of emails that discourse
>will
>send out. That is a site parameter, and whomever supports it for
>Fedora
>needs to change it:
>
>https://met
mcatanz...@gnome.org píše v Út 27. 08. 2019 v 15:07 +0300:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:22 AM, John Harris
> wrote:
> > No, that is not how this works, at all. First, let's go ahead and
> > address the
> > idea that "if the firewall blocks it, the app breaks, so it's the
> > firewall's
> > fault"
So it seems that all of a sudden libldb was upgraded to 2.0.5 on
rawhide and F-31 yesterday which includes soname bump:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1364218
and as a result _all_ F-31 live image of Fedora-31-20190827.n.0 failed to
be created due to sssd dependency
On 8/27/19 8:57 AM, Björn Persson wrote:
Robert Marcano wrote:
Maybe, now that NetworkManager implements now its own DHCP client, if
the IP received is not an private address (RFC 1918 for IPv4, some other
consideration should be done for IPv6), Notify the user the connection
is in a secure mode
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 08:54:57AM -0400, Dan Book wrote:
> That Gnome is intentionally sabotaging users and thinks they are too stupid
> to understand a port number associated with a service is just another
> example why I wish that Fedora and Redhat would put work into alternative
> desktops.
No
Red Hat is written as two separate words. So you can put some work
into learning that :)
Anyhow, why does user need to learn what port is? Can you imagine your
grandma / grandfather learning how to open some port on the firewall?
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 3:05 PM Dan Book wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 27
I guess it should not be surprising, Gnome has made it clear for many years
now their only target audience is infants and grandmothers. How many of
these users do you think Fedora really has?
-Dan
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 9:12 AM Igor Gnatenko <
ignatenkobr...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Red Hat
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 14:25, wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Iñaki Ucar wrote:
>
> There's no need to write "a new style of firewall". It would be as easy as
> asking the user once whether a new connection is trusted or not. That's it.
>
>
> But, well, how do you do that? What do yo
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 2:09 PM Tristan Cacqueray
wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 01:22 John Harris wrote:
> [snip]
> > No online updates is the exact issue I see with this. That's a security
> nightmare.
> >
> > If you don't have a package manager there, it simply will not be
> updated.
> > I
IMHO surprisingly many. Just in my family there may be as many as 10 of
them. They just never go to the Fedora mailing lists to represent
themselves.
And when you have a range of users from newbies to experts, you don't
really design desktop software the way only the experts can deal with.
Jiri
On 8/27/19 9:10 AM, Robert Marcano wrote:
On 8/27/19 8:57 AM, Björn Persson wrote:
Robert Marcano wrote:
Maybe, now that NetworkManager implements now its own DHCP client, if
the IP received is not an private address (RFC 1918 for IPv4, some other
consideration should be done for IPv6), Notify
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 6:18:41 AM MST Christian Glombek wrote:
> Right now, one can do something like `dnf
> --installroot=/mnt/new-buildah-root group install custom-environment`
> to create a root for a container and installed group may include a package
> manager or not.
This would install
> That's all it takes: a small green/red switch, saying
> trusted/untrusted, and mapped to the proper firewalld zones. You don't
> need firewall-config, you don't even need to know there's such a thing
> as a "firewall" behind the scenes. You only know that home is trusted,
> other places are untr
://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1364220
and as a result _all_ F-31 live image of Fedora-31-20190827.n.0 failed to
be created due to sssd dependency breakage (like Fedora Workstation Live:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=37307774
Then we are now under Beta Freeze... So
On 8/27/19 7:36 AM, Björn Persson wrote:
Jason Montleon wrote:
And even if they implemented it your way you are expecting that the
developer of the application and all the libraries it uses have
written perfect bug free code with zero vulnerabilities.
You wanted to block VNC with a packet fi
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:23:48 AM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> I read all the comments and my response is this...
> First of all, there is no limit to the amount of emails that discourse will
> send out. That is a site parameter, and whomever supports it for Fedora
> needs to change it:
>
> ht
If updates in rawhide gating fail the tests, what is the procedure? Should they
be unpuhsed, or left to rot forever?
See for example https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?packages=podman
--
Miro Hrončok
--
Phone: +420777974800
IRC: mhroncok
___
dev
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:23:48 AM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> The fact is that for the vast majority of people, the discourse mailing
> list functionality is good enough - and as time goes on it continues
> to improve - but again, it's not reasonable to expect or demand 100%. IMO
> the pr
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 9:35 AM John Harris wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:23:48 AM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> > The fact is that for the vast majority of people, the discourse mailing
> > list functionality is good enough - and as time goes on it continues
> > to improve - but again,
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 3:27 PM John Harris wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 6:18:41 AM MST Christian Glombek wrote:
> > Right now, one can do something like `dnf
> > --installroot=/mnt/new-buildah-root group install custom-environment`
> > to create a root for a container and installed group
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:36:20 AM MST Björn Persson wrote:
> Please elaborate. Where does the script come from, what exactly happens
> by accident, and how would a packet filter stop it?
It could come from anywhere, that's not the point. A *firewall* would stop it
from doing anything too har
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1744676
Fedora Update System changed:
What|Removed |Added
Status|NEW |MODIFIED
--- Comment #7 from F
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:07:39 AM MST mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:22 AM, John Harris
>
> wrote:
> > No, that is not how this works, at all. First, let's go ahead and
> > address the
> > idea that "if the firewall blocks it, the app breaks, so it's the
> > firewall
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 6:06:24 AM MST Jiri Eischmann wrote:
> mcatanz...@gnome.org píše v Út 27. 08. 2019 v 15:07 +0300:
>
> > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:22 AM, John Harris
> > wrote:
> >
> > > No, that is not how this works, at all. First, let's go ahead and
> > > address the
> > > idea th
I'm curious about discourse's options here...
Is quite common on our workflows to have mailing threads that targets a couple
of fedora mailing list, another outside mailing list and some third party
individuals when we discuss about an specific feature.
The xen criteria one for example, it had
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 4:37:24 AM MST David Kaufmann wrote:
> Both option have their disadvantages - in the case of "maintainer opens
> ports" the ports are open as soon as the package gets installed, and
> software not run/installed via package manager will give the impression
> of "just not
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:10:28 AM MST mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:14 AM, John Harris
>
> wrote:
> > Please consider the security aspect of this. This is a critical
> > vulnerability.
> > Please, don't make us look like the Linux Mint folks. If Workstation
> > is
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:06:32 AM MST mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:23 AM, John Harris
>
> wrote:
> > At least in KDE, possibly not in GNOME as it lacks many of the
> > features
> > available in KDE, you can specify the zone of the connection in your
> > NetworkMana
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:35:08 AM MST Robert Marcano wrote:
> On 8/27/19 8:18 AM, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Iñaki Ucar
> > wrote:
>
> >> There's no need to write "a new style of firewall". It would be as
> >> easy as asking the user once whether a n
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 05:23:48 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
>
>
> A key comment was: "Our site is still quite busy, although some people are
> still grumbling about the change, 8 months later. The die-hard email users are
> still able to participate, which came as a bit of a pleasant shock to them
> > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:22 AM, John Harris
>
> That port numbers are now "technical details" is fairly concerning, and I
> can't imagine why you think users shouldn't be able to configure their
> firewall. You realize we have a GTK firewall configuration program?
>
> Right now, the ave
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 6:53:08 AM MST Julen Landa Alustiza wrote:
> I'm curious about discourse's options here...
>
> Is quite common on our workflows to have mailing threads that targets a
> couple of fedora mailing list, another outside mailing list and some third
> party individuals when w
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 7:06:31 AM MST Ryan Walklin wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:22 AM, John Harris
>
>
>
> >
> > That port numbers are now "technical details" is fairly concerning, and I
> >
> > can't imagine why you think users shouldn't be able to configure their
> > firewal
On 8/27/19 10:03 AM, John Harris wrote:
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:35:08 AM MST Robert Marcano wrote:
On 8/27/19 8:18 AM, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Iñaki Ucar
wrote:
There's no need to write "a new style of firewall". It would be as
easy as asking the
I would assume you would just use mailing list mode and address
additional recipients. To receive an expert reply I would suggest you ask
the question here:
https://meta.discourse.org/c/support
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:54 AM Julen Landa Alustiza <
jla...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> I'm curiou
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 14:20, wrote:
>
> The main competitor of Fedora Workstation is Ubuntu. Ubuntu ships without a
> firewall enabled and nobody considers this a critical vulnerability. Now: why
> is that...?
1. Ubuntu Server ships without a firewall enabled. Do you think that's
a good policy
Hi,
I released new version of Mock and mock-core-configs. For full release notes
see:
https://github.com/rpm-software-management/mock/wiki/Release-Notes-1.4.18
I just submitted packages to Bodhi.
I would like to point two things here:
1) It should fixes all those issues you reported in past da
Thanks for the offer, but no thanks. My point is I don't like using email
for forum discussions. The only reason I'm using it here is that I'm being
forced to because "Development Discussions", "KDE Discussions" and
"Packaging Discussions" aren't available on the Discourse Fedora instance.
As I m
On Tuesday, 27 August 2019 at 03:38, John Harris wrote:
> On Monday, August 26, 2019 4:54:09 AM MST Markus Larsson wrote:
> > It seems that the only thing in that link that has merit in regards to this
> > list is that discourse allow editing of messages that has been sent.
Which I'd consider a mi
On 27 August 2019 16:29:28 CEST, "Gerald B. Cox" wrote:
>Thanks for the offer, but no thanks. My point is I don't like using
>email
>for forum discussions. The only reason I'm using it here is that I'm
>being
>forced to because "Development Discussions", "KDE Discussions" and
>"Packaging Discu
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:33 AM Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:21 AM Miro Hrončok wrote:
> >
> > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they
> > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure
> > that the package should
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 7:14:20 AM MST Robert Marcano wrote:
> On 8/27/19 10:03 AM, John Harris wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:35:08 AM MST Robert Marcano wrote:
> >
> >> On 8/27/19 8:18 AM, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Iñaki Uc
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 7:29:28 AM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> Using mail, I have to access the archives to read the full thread.
This is just due to your configuration. You could easily either save the
mailing list to your mailbox, or use an NNTP gateway.
--
John M. Harris, Jr.
Splentity
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 7:29:28 AM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> I understand there isn't going to be 100% feature parity, but it should be
> good enough - and if it isn't we should be working with the Discourse
> people to improve it rather than just using it as an excuse to not moving
> forward.
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 15:17, Iñaki Ucar wrote:
>
> Windows shows a pop-up.
To be fair, I've just checked and Windows 10 doesn't show a pop-up;
better than that: when you (enter the password and) hit "connect", it
asks there whether it's a private network and you want to share
resources, yes or n
Dear all,
You are kindly invited to the meeting:
Minimization Team Meeting on 2019-08-28 from 15:00:00 to 16:00:00 GMT
At fedora-meetin...@irc.freenode.net
The meeting will be about:
Meeting of the Fedora Minimization Team
Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9598/
__
Why is it when I say that I don't want to clutter up my email with mail
from mailing lists I'm told it's a misconfiguration. It's not a
misconfiguration. I don't want the forum email cluttering up my mail - and
I don't want to use an NNTP gateway, I want to use Discourse. Why is that
so hard to
I never said they were. What I said was expecting and requiring Discourse
to 100% replicate everything a mailing list does isn't going to happen and
shouldn't be a requirement.
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:55 AM John Harris wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 7:29:28 AM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
On Tue, 2019-08-27 at 10:14 -0400, Robert Marcano wrote:
> On 8/27/19 10:03 AM, John Harris wrote:
> >
> Any new Wifi connection could be identified by their SSID, so it
> could
> still be secure by default and ask for that specific connection to
> be
> opened because you trust them. As I propos
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 10:20, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I released new version of Mock and mock-core-configs. For full release notes
> see:
> https://github.com/rpm-software-management/mock/wiki/Release-Notes-1.4.18
> I just submitted packages to Bodhi.
>
> I would like to point two thing
Iñaki Ucar píše v Út 27. 08. 2019 v 16:17 +0200:
> On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 14:20, wrote:
> > The main competitor of Fedora Workstation is Ubuntu. Ubuntu ships
> > without a firewall enabled and nobody considers this a critical
> > vulnerability. Now: why is that...?
>
> 1. Ubuntu Server ships with
On Tue, 2019-08-27 at 12:00 -0300, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> Why is it when I say that I don't want to clutter up my email with
> mail from mailing lists I'm told it's a misconfiguration. It's not a
> misconfiguration. I don't want the forum email cluttering up my mail
> - and I don't want to use an
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 6:22 AM Neal Gompa wrote:
>
> The other major non-Linux operating systems do. Both Microsoft Windows
> and Apple macOS ship with active firewalls by default.
The firewall on macOS is disabled by default. Therefore I can't agree
with any assessment that Fedora Workstation i
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 at 11:01, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
>
> Why is it when I say that I don't want to clutter up my email with mail from
> mailing lists I'm told it's a misconfiguration. It's not a misconfiguration.
> I don't want the forum email cluttering up my mail - and I don't want to use
> a
Here is an interesting discussion on "threaded discussions":
https://meta.discourse.org/t/threaded-discussion-is-ultimately-too-complex-to-survive-on-the-public-internet/63172
I personally don't like them. As the threads increase the discussion
becomes hard to follow...
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 1
This conversation is pretty pointless. You are never going to convince
other people to like Discourse more than mailing lists, and they are never
going to convince you the other direction.
-Dan
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:35 AM Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> Here is an interesting discussion on "threade
I'm entirely fine with using discourse WHEN it has a functioning mailing list
mode.
I am not against discourse as such, I am against making changes that forces
everyone to consume the information in exactly the same way.
Ensure that mailing list mode works in a way that the ones who needs that
For this who can't change their default zone in firewall after installing
Fedora Workstation completely block all ports may result in worse things, like
completely turn off firewall, because they can't run their online video games
for example and some one always advised them to do this.
We reme
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:34:40PM -0300, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> I personally don't like them. As the threads increase the discussion
> becomes hard to follow...
Unlike a non-threaded view of the same discussion, which becomes
completely impossible to follow (to say nothing about actual
contrib
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