Re: What other external trackers would you like added to Bugzilla?

2019-08-13 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2019-08-12, Dan Book wrote: > --===7543779861429650079== > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="def674058ff0509d" > > --def674058ff0509d > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 3:11 PM Dan Book wrote: > >> On Mon, Au

RANT: compton-ng…

2019-08-13 Thread Igor Gnatenko
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1738293 How did it pass review? > Obsoletes: compton Silently doing Obsoletes of an active package and doing so even without version which is prohibited by the Packaging Guidelines. Really? > cp -a yshui-%{appname}-%{test_shortcommit}/subprojects

Re: Fedora rawhide compose report: 20190805.n.0 changes

2019-08-13 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 05. 08. 19 14:12, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: = DOWNGRADED PACKAGES = Package: dtc-1.4.7-3.fc30 Old package: dtc-1.5.0-2.fc31 Summary: Device Tree Compiler RPMs: dtc libfdt libfdt-devel libfdt-static python2-libfdt Added RPMs: python2-libfdt Dropped RPMs: python3-

Re: RANT: compton-ng…

2019-08-13 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 8/13/19 11:17 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1738293 How did it pass review? Obsoletes: compton Silently doing Obsoletes of an active package and doing so even without version which is prohibited by the Packaging Guidelines. Really? cp -a yshui

Re: What other external trackers would you like added to Bugzilla?

2019-08-13 Thread Jun Aruga
For someone who wants to see current registered external bug trackers, click "Add link" drop down list from below link to see the list. :) It's interesting to see many bug trackers are already in it. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora -- Jun Aruga | He - His - Him __

Proper way to keep service enabled when updated from sysv to systemd?

2019-08-13 Thread Robin Lee
Hi, I packaged xe-guest-utilities with a systemd service for Fedora. But there is an upstream rpm package that include the same service as a sysv one. And the service is enabled with the 'Default-Start' info in the init script after '/sbin/chkconfig --del xe-linux-distribution'. And when people

Re: RANT: compton-ng…

2019-08-13 Thread Kamil Dudka
On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 11:26:12 AM CEST Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 8/13/19 11:17 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1738293 > > > > How did it pass review? > > > > > >> Obsoletes: compton > > > > > > Silently doing Obsoletes of an active pack

Re: RANT: compton-ng…

2019-08-13 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 8/13/19 1:19 PM, Kamil Dudka wrote: On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 11:26:12 AM CEST Panu Matilainen wrote: On 8/13/19 11:17 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1738293 How did it pass review? Obsoletes: compton Silently doing Obsoletes of an active

Re: RANT: compton-ng…

2019-08-13 Thread Kamil Dudka
On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 12:22:17 PM CEST Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 8/13/19 1:19 PM, Kamil Dudka wrote: > > > On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 11:26:12 AM CEST Panu Matilainen wrote: > > > >> On 8/13/19 11:17 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?i

Re: Modules in rawhide (that shouldn't be there)

2019-08-13 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 10:21 AM Igor Gnatenko < ignatenkobr...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > You meant more like "rebuilding" modules rather than branching, right? > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:09 PM Mohan Boddu wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > There is a Mass Branching scheduled for next Tuesday, t

Re: RANT: compton-ng…

2019-08-13 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 13.08.2019 12:38, Kamil Dudka wrote: > So you want to use -flto=auto Supported only by GCC 10+. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le..

Unresponsive SIG Leader

2019-08-13 Thread Geoffrey Marr
I have tried to join the Amateur Radio SIG twice, once in January, and again recently in August. The owner, Bob Jensen [0], does not seem to be around any longer in the Fedora community or the amateur radio community as his FCC license has expired and is no longer valid [1]. I would like to know ho

Re: Better interactivity in low-memory situations

2019-08-13 Thread Simon Farnsworth
> On 10 Aug 2019, at 17:56, Georg Sauthoff wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 03:50:43PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > [..] >> Problem and thesis statement: >> Certain workloads, such as building webkitGTK from source, results in >> heavy swap usage eventually leading to the system becoming totall

Where can I remove myself from bug emails for packages I am not a maintainer anymore

2019-08-13 Thread Robert Marcano
Greetings. Where can I remove myself from bug emails for packages I am not a maintainer anymore? I am not maintaining eclipse-subclipse from a long time ago, I am not listed as a member at https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/eclipse-subclipse but I still get FTBFS bugzilla emails. Any help i

Unretire linuxconsoletools package

2019-08-13 Thread Vascom
Please approve review of linuxconsoletools package https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1740634 It was retired due to FTBFS but needed for gpm, fpc, lazarus to build pascal programs. Situation same as with gettext. -- Best regards, Vasiliy Glazov ___

Re: RANT: compton-ng…

2019-08-13 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 8/13/19 1:38 PM, Kamil Dudka wrote: On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 12:22:17 PM CEST Panu Matilainen wrote: On 8/13/19 1:19 PM, Kamil Dudka wrote: On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 11:26:12 AM CEST Panu Matilainen wrote: On 8/13/19 11:17 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show

Re: RANT: compton-ng…

2019-08-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Igor Gnatenko wrote: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1738293 > > How did it pass review? > >> Obsoletes: compton > > Silently doing Obsoletes of an active package and doing so even > without version which is prohibited by the Packaging Guidelines. > Really? This was submitted

Re: New graphical dependency visualiser prototype

2019-08-13 Thread Adam Samalik
I've just added support for weak dependencies. On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 3:38 PM Adam Samalik wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 8:16 PM Igor Gnatenko < > ignatenkobr...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > >> How does it deal with rich dependencies? Does it take conflicts into the >> account? What about m

Re: [HEADS-UP]: Mercurial with Python3 on rawhide?

2019-08-13 Thread Petr Stodulka
On 12. 08. 19 22:36, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 12. 08. 19 20:37, Petr Stodulka wrote: Can you explain better what do you mean by that? I am little lost here. Sure. The idea was: 1) When Fedora 31 is branched (scheduled for tomorrow [1]), push the switch to rawhide (Fedora 32) 2) See what hap

Re: RANT: compton-ng…

2019-08-13 Thread Artem Tim
Fixed https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/compton-ng/blob/master/f/compton-ng.spec > How did it pass review? Because no one reviewing packages in Fedora. Only one person reviewing and help witch packaging - eclipseo. Many thanks to him. Also no one want to wait for month+ and pinging non existe

Re: Orphaning cloud-init, python-boto

2019-08-13 Thread Dusty Mabe
On 8/10/19 9:06 PM, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: > Hi, > > My time to work on Fedora cloud-related things has diminished in > recent months, so I have not been able to give the cloud-init and > python-boto packages the care they deserve. They are free to a good > home. > Can you give cloud-init t

Re: Orphaning cloud-init, python-boto

2019-08-13 Thread Joe Doss
On 8/13/19 8:54 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote: On 8/10/19 9:06 PM, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: Hi, My time to work on Fedora cloud-related things has diminished in recent months, so I have not been able to give the cloud-init and python-boto packages the care they deserve. They are free to a good home.

Re: Why retire Python 2 packages and games that still work to end user ?

2019-08-13 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 12. 08. 19 v 13:34 Hans de Goede napsal(a): > > gcompris has been replaced upstream by gcompris-qt, which is also in > Fedora and which we will keep around. Imho gcompris should have been remove long time ago from Fedora. And Gcompris-qt should obsolete-provides gcompris. It just confuse peo

Re: Proper way to keep service enabled when updated from sysv to systemd?

2019-08-13 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 06:02:42PM +0800, Robin Lee wrote: > Hi, > > I packaged xe-guest-utilities with a systemd service for Fedora. > > But there is an upstream rpm package that include the same service as > a sysv one. And the > service is enabled with the 'Default-Start' info in the init scri

Re: RANT: compton-ng…

2019-08-13 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
On Tuesday, 13 August 2019 15:51:41 CEST Artem Tim wrote: > Fixed > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/compton-ng/blob/master/f/compton-ng.spec > > > > How did it pass review? > > > Because no one reviewing packages in Fedora. Only one person reviewing and > help witch packaging - eclipseo. M

Re: RANT: compton-ng…

2019-08-13 Thread Ernestas Kulik
On Tue, 2019-08-13 at 13:51 +, Artem Tim wrote: > Because no one reviewing packages in Fedora. Only one person > reviewing and help witch packaging - eclipseo. Many thanks to him. I see plenty of names in Bugzilla doing package reviews. If you’ve waited a long time, this list is one place to a

Fedora Module Mass Rebuild

2019-08-13 Thread Mohan Boddu
Hi all, Due to an issue with mbs authentication and then travel for FLOCK, we couldn't run mass rebuilds of modules last week (mass rebuilds of modules is run after mass rebuild of rpms are done). We are planning to try it today. Please look out for module builds that we will be submitting as part

Fedora 31 Mass Branching Starting Today

2019-08-13 Thread Mohan Boddu
Hello All, Fedora 31 will be branched from rawhide today as per the Fedora 31 schedule[1]. The process takes about a day and everything should be ready by tomorrow. You can still be able to build packages normally until then, but after the mass branching rawhide and F31 will be separated. We will

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Minimization Team Meeting

2019-08-13 Thread asamalik
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Minimization Team Meeting on 2019-08-14 from 15:00:00 to 16:00:00 GMT At fedora-meetin...@irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Meeting of the Fedora Minimization Team https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/minimization/team/ Source: h

Re: repoquery: Modular dependency problems: nothing provides module(platform:f30)

2019-08-13 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 12. 08. 19 10:56, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 12. 08. 19 8:21, Igor Gnatenko wrote: You need to explicitly set --setopt=module_platform_id=platform:F31 I thought itvwas fixed, but probably it does not work for repoquery. It was fixed for a long time. This just started again now. I've reopened

Fedora 32: Deprecating WEXT

2019-08-13 Thread Lubomir Rintel
Hi, We're considering removing support for Wireless Extensions from NetworkManager in Fedora 32 time frame. A more modern Wi-Fi configuration API, cfg802111/nl80211, has been available since 2007 and maybe there's no point in carrying the maintenance burden anymore. It seems reasonable to assume

Re: Fedora 32: Deprecating WEXT

2019-08-13 Thread Peter Robinson
> We're considering removing support for Wireless Extensions from > NetworkManager in Fedora 32 time frame. > > A more modern Wi-Fi configuration API, cfg802111/nl80211, has been > available since 2007 and maybe there's no point in carrying the > maintenance burden anymore. It seems reasonable to a

Re: Fedora 32: Deprecating WEXT

2019-08-13 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 13-08-19 17:39, Peter Robinson wrote: We're considering removing support for Wireless Extensions from NetworkManager in Fedora 32 time frame. A more modern Wi-Fi configuration API, cfg802111/nl80211, has been available since 2007 and maybe there's no point in carrying the maintenance bur

Re: Why retire Python 2 packages and games that still work to end user ?

2019-08-13 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 13-08-19 16:31, Miroslav Suchý wrote: Dne 12. 08. 19 v 13:34 Hans de Goede napsal(a): gcompris has been replaced upstream by gcompris-qt, which is also in Fedora and which we will keep around. Imho gcompris should have been remove long time ago from Fedora. And Gcompris-qt should obs

Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Minimization Team Meeting

2019-08-13 Thread Adam Samalik
This will be our very first meeting! I'll prepare some agenda before the meeting, but I mostly expect quick introductions, our long-term goals or things we're interested in, ideas, and ideally a plan for everyone for the upcoming week. See you there! Adam On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 5:02 PM wrote:

Re: RANT: compton-ng…

2019-08-13 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 13.08.2019 16:52, Ernestas Kulik wrote: > No need to get defensive about this. Provide feedback ahead of time > and, preferably, help out. Replacing tooling is not just flipping a > switch. But he was right. Review process in openSUSE is much more easier, than in Fedora. Currently no one want t

Re: RANT: compton-ng…

2019-08-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2019-08-13 at 18:31 +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 13.08.2019 16:52, Ernestas Kulik wrote: > > No need to get defensive about this. Provide feedback ahead of time > > and, preferably, help out. Replacing tooling is not just flipping a > > switch. > > But he was right. Review p

Re: RANT: compton-ng…

2019-08-13 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
I can suggest following: 1. Do review process much more easier by running Fedora Review Tool on Koji using fedpkg. Output can be sent to email for additional manual checks. 2. Do package revocation procedure from non-responsive maintainers much more simple and easier. Currently we need to wait 3

Re: RANT: compton-ng…

2019-08-13 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 13.08.2019 18:34, Adam Williamson wrote: > And yet this thread demonstrates that without good review, we will get > garbage packages. Review processes exist for a reason. Every package can become a garbage, because after package review no one reviews it again. I see lots of legacy packages, whi

Re: RANT: compton-ng…

2019-08-13 Thread Artem Tim
> I see plenty of names in Bugzilla doing package reviews. If you’ve > waited a long time, this list is one place to ask for them (review > swaps for extra points). This guy probably didn't know about that since he still trying to push it since 2014 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=116

Re: RANT: compton-ng…

2019-08-13 Thread Artem Tim
> Review processes exist for a reason. Review processes is one of the best thing in Fedora and i believe this helps with packaging quality overall. The problem is no one literally wanted to do this in Fedora since 99% of packages reviewing one person which i mentioned already before there.

efivar and mokutil long standing FTBFS

2019-08-13 Thread Miro Hrončok
efivar and mokutil fail to build from source. They have been retired, then unretired and they still fail to build from source. Following the policy: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/ I kindly ask the maintainers to rebuild them or orphan the

"Bodhi activation point" no longer makes sense

2019-08-13 Thread Miro Hrončok
Should we rename "Bodhi activation point" in the schedule? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/31/Schedule Bodhi is now active for rawhide and branched as well. What about "Bodhi updates-testing activation point"? -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok __

Re: Fedora Module Mass Rebuild

2019-08-13 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 07:50:17AM -0400, Mohan Boddu wrote: > Hi all, > > Due to an issue with mbs authentication and then travel for FLOCK, we > couldn't run mass rebuilds of modules last week (mass rebuilds of modules > is run after mass rebuild of rpms are done). We are planning to try it > to

Re: efivar and mokutil long standing FTBFS

2019-08-13 Thread Peter Robinson
Firstly they're just FTBFS in F-30 This isn't exactly long standing, if it was F-26 like some that were retired I could completely understand that statement but F-30 is pushing the rhetoric a bit here. > efivar and mokutil fail to build from source. They have been retired, then > unretired and

Re: friday roundup of failing images in rawhide

2019-08-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 8/7/19 12:13 PM, Mattias Ellert wrote: > fre 2019-07-19 klockan 18:16 -0700 skrev Kevin Fenzi: >> hey folks, here is a list of currently failing images in rawhide. >> Please fix if you can. >> >> 4. Fedora scientific KDE: >> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=36353230 >> >> Prob

Re: efivar and mokutil long standing FTBFS

2019-08-13 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 13. 08. 19 19:43, Peter Robinson wrote: Firstly they're just FTBFS in F-30 This isn't exactly long standing, if it was F-26 like some that were retired I could completely understand that statement but F-30 is pushing the rhetoric a bit here. It has been half a year without any response.

Re: RANT: compton-ng…

2019-08-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2019-08-13 at 18:42 +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 13.08.2019 18:34, Adam Williamson wrote: > > And yet this thread demonstrates that without good review, we will get > > garbage packages. Review processes exist for a reason. > > Every package can become a garbage, because aft

Re: "Bodhi activation point" no longer makes sense

2019-08-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2019-08-13 at 19:02 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Should we rename "Bodhi activation point" in the schedule? > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/31/Schedule > > Bodhi is now active for rawhide and branched as well. > > What about "Bodhi updates-testing activation point"? Agreed,

Re: Please sweep bodhi updates to testing in a timely manner

2019-08-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 8/11/19 3:55 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> I'm not sure what else you would like me to do here... > > How about changing the Bodhi rules to allow stable pushes 7 days after > update submission rather than 7 days after the push to testing actually > happens? That would make t

Re: packages stuck in f31-updates-testing-pending

2019-08-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 8/11/19 7:17 AM, Mukundan Ragavan wrote: > Can someone from releng re-tag these packages and push them to stable? > > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1344119 > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1344089 > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?bui

Re: Please sweep bodhi updates to testing in a timely manner

2019-08-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2019-08-11 at 12:55 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > I'm not sure what else you would like me to do here... > > How about changing the Bodhi rules to allow stable pushes 7 days after > update submission rather than 7 days after the push to testing actually > happens? T

Re: RANT: compton-ng…

2019-08-13 Thread Abhiram Kuchibhotla
Hey guys, I just saw this so sorry for the late reply. I'm still around. I haven't been contacted but I see no problems with moving away from compton in an orderly fashion. Feel free to take over if you want. :) Regards, Abhiram K On Tue, 13 Aug, 2019, 11:32 PM Adam Williamson, wrote: > On Tue

Gating branched?

2019-08-13 Thread Miro Hrončok
Now that we are branching Fedora 31, I wonder what are the plans for F31 gating before the "Bodhi activation point". Will we only gate rawhide and let f31 builds go directly to the f31-pending -> f31 tag? Or the procedure on rawhide and branched will be +- identical? (I've been told on IRC th

Re: RANT: compton-ng…

2019-08-13 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 13.08.2019 20:01, Adam Williamson wrote: > This is true, but that's not a reason to stop doing package reviews. > "Things aren't perfect" is never a good excuse for "...so we can make > them worse!" I never asked to stop doing package reviews. Package review is a good thing. I just asked to sim

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change: glusterfs dropping 32-bit arches

2019-08-13 Thread Kaleb Keithley
On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 6:17 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > > Please feel free though to add your thoughts to the issue. > > > > [1] https://github.com/gluster/glusterfs/issues/702 > > The upstream issue actually says they want to keep building 32-bit in > their > CI, so it should compile just fine,

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change: glusterfs dropping 32-bit arches

2019-08-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kaleb Keithley wrote: > Building it on 32-bit in the CI is only to ensure correctness of sprintf > format strings. It's a compile-only test. And that is sufficient. As long as it compiles, you can package it. Whether upstream "supports" it or not is irrelevant. Kevin Kofler _

Re: Please sweep bodhi updates to testing in a timely manner

2019-08-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: > It's not really about "accountability", it's simply: we can only really > assume the package is being tested once it makes it to the repo. Yes > you can pull it out sooner manually or using bodhi CLI, but very few > people do that. The intent of the rule is "we want people

Re: Please sweep bodhi updates to testing in a timely manner

2019-08-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2019-08-13 at 23:36 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > It's not really about "accountability", it's simply: we can only really > > assume the package is being tested once it makes it to the repo. Yes > > you can pull it out sooner manually or using bodhi CLI, but very f

Re: Please sweep bodhi updates to testing in a timely manner

2019-08-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: > But the key principle here isn't 'fairness', it's 'is the package > broken'. That's the actual thing we're trying to achieve. From that > perspective it doesn't make any sense to start the timer on submission > rather than push. What I want to achieve is predictability for

Re: Proper way to keep service enabled when updated from sysv to systemd?

2019-08-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 10:36 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 06:02:42PM +0800, Robin Lee wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I packaged xe-guest-utilities with a systemd service for Fedora. > > > > But there is an upstream rpm package that include the same service as > > a sy

Re: Fedora 31 Mass Branching Starting Today

2019-08-13 Thread Mohan Boddu
Hi All, Fedora 31 has now been branched, please be sure to do a git pull --rebase to pick up the new branch, as an additional reminder rawhide/f32 has been completely isolated from previous releases, so this means that anything you do for f31 you also have to do in the master branch and do a build

RFC: Drop lz4-static

2019-08-13 Thread Igor Gnatenko
Hello, I found out that nothing in Fedora depends on lz4-static (neither runtime nor buildtime). Is anybody using it or I'm free to drop it? Any thoughts? ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le..

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change: glusterfs dropping 32-bit arches

2019-08-13 Thread Frantisek Zatloukal
> > > And that is sufficient. As long as it compiles, you can package it. > Whether > upstream "supports" it or not is irrelevant. It depends on package maintainer. If upstream dropped 32-bit support, I'd stop building it for that arch in Fedora. Why would package maintainer have to bear the bur