Re: GCC / annobin changes in F30

2019-06-28 Thread Nicolas Chauvet
Le ven. 28 juin 2019 à 06:03, Michael Cronenworth a écrit : > > Hi, > > I was attempting to package the Kodi 18.3 update for RPMFusion but ran into a > compiler > error very early in the build. GCC outputs the following type of messages: > > cc: error: .annobin-Wl,-wrap,_IO_getc.end: No such file

Re: always update the bootloader during major upgrades

2019-06-28 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le jeudi 27 juin 2019 à 12:26 -0600, Chris Murphy a écrit : > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 9:06 AM Bruno Wolff III > wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 14:19:26 -0600, > > Chris Murphy wrote: > > > Short version: Fedora should take responsibility for the > > > bootloader > > > being up to date, by u

Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: Move test.support module to python3-test subpackage

2019-06-28 Thread Lumir Balhar
On 6/25/19 12:25 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 25. 06. 19 12:07, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:48:42AM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 25. 06. 19 9:50, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: I would say the scoping should happen (e.g. in copr) first, then we'll know what the scope (and he

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: Python means Python3

2019-06-28 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 5:20 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 27. 06. 19 17:15, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2019-06-27 at 12:32 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > >> On 26. 06. 19 20:07, Adam Williamson wrote: > >>> On Wed, 2019-06-26 at 13:57 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.or

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: Python means Python3

2019-06-28 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 28. 06. 19 10:22, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 5:20 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: On 27. 06. 19 17:15, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2019-06-27 at 12:32 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 26. 06. 19 20:07, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2019-06-26 at 13:57 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:

Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: DNF Make Best Mode the Default

2019-06-28 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2019-06-27, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DNF_Default_Best > >== Summary == > Currently, DNF prefers clean dependency resolution over package > updates; a package (almost) silently won't get updated to a newer > version if the new version has dependency problems. DN

Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: DNF Make Best Mode the Default

2019-06-28 Thread Jaroslav Mracek
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:35 AM Petr Pisar wrote: > On 2019-06-27, Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DNF_Default_Best > > > >== Summary == > > Currently, DNF prefers clean dependency resolution over package > > updates; a package (almost) silently won't get updated to

Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: DNF Make Best Mode the Default

2019-06-28 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 27. 06. 19 v 23:56 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 10:37:28AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DNF_Default_Best > I wanted to update today, and I got the following report: > $ sudo dnf upgrade --best > Last metadata expiration

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: gawk 5.0.1

2019-06-28 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Thursday, 27 June 2019 at 16:37, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Gawk501 > > ** Note that this has already landed in Rawhide: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/IEZZK7WHGF3FWFZNSCG7Z5ZZVUHVFZAF/#IEZZK7WHGF3FWFZNSCG7Z5Z

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: Python means Python3

2019-06-28 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 6/28/19 2:48 AM, Gerald Henriksen wrote: On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 16:09:58 -0400, you wrote: On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 2:52 PM Dan Book wrote: As an outsider to the Python community, not having any binary or package that responds to the expected name "python" would be a disaster. Can you expa

Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: DNF Make Best Mode the Default

2019-06-28 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 27. 06. 19 v 23:56 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): > (try to add '--allowerasing' to command line to replace conflicting packages > or '--skip-broken' to skip uninstallable packages) This is message for people who are willing/are able to fix or report things. For regular user this sho

Orhpaning rubygem-binding_of_caller

2019-06-28 Thread Vít Ondruch
I have orphaned rubygem-binding_of_caller. The package was initially introduced into Fedora as a dependency of rubygem-web-console, which migrated off binding_of_caller later. Therefore, I don't have use for this package anymore. Vít ___ devel mailing l

Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2019-06-28)

2019-06-28 Thread Petr Šabata
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Friday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2019-06-28 15:00 UTC' Links to all issues to be di

Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: DNF Make Best Mode the Default

2019-06-28 Thread Kamil Paral
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 11:12 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Dne 27. 06. 19 v 23:56 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): > > (try to add '--allowerasing' to command line to replace conflicting > packages or '--skip-broken' to skip uninstallable packages) > > This is message for people who are willi

FYI: OCaml 4.08.0 in Fedora Rawhide

2019-06-28 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
We've rebuilt some of the OCaml packages in Fedora Rawhide (31) against OCaml 4.08.0. It's expected that some packages will have broken dependencies. This is because they depend on ocaml-camlp4, the old, deprecated macro package, which has not been ported to 4.08. If camlp4 gets ported in the ne

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: gawk 5.0.1

2019-06-28 Thread Justin Forbes
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 9:38 AM Ben Cotton wrote: > The introduction of namespaces may break some scripts written for > gawk 4.2.1 due to different variable names. (This is considered to > be a bug by the upstream and there is a patch fixing this) > It seems that the patch fixing this would be c

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: Python means Python3

2019-06-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 at 20:37, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 16:09:58 -0400, you wrote: > > >On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 2:52 PM Dan Book wrote: > >> > >> As an outsider to the Python community, not having any binary or > package that responds to the expected name "python" would be a

Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: DNF Make Best Mode the Default

2019-06-28 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 02:00:22PM +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 11:12 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > > Dne 27. 06. 19 v 23:56 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): > > > (try to add '--allowerasing' to command line to replace conflicting > > packages or '--skip-broken' to sk

Fedora Rawhide-20190628.n.0 compose check report

2019-06-28 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check! 5 of 47 required tests failed, 4 results missing openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** below Unsatisfied gating requirements that could not be mapped to openQA tests: FAILED: compose.clo

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: Python means Python3

2019-06-28 Thread Rex Dieter
Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > Actually I think it makes more sense that F31 provides no /usr/bin/python. > Then a lot of things which depend on it can be found and fixed since they > have not adapted to the Future any other way. I agree. -- Rex ___ de

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: Python means Python3

2019-06-28 Thread Rex Dieter
Rex Dieter wrote: > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > >> Actually I think it makes more sense that F31 provides no >> /usr/bin/python. Then a lot of things which depend on it can be found and >> fixed since they have not adapted to the Future any other way. > > I agree. Apologies for not fully read

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: Python means Python3

2019-06-28 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 26. 06. 19 19:57, Ben Cotton wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_means_Python3 == Summary == In package and command names, "Python" will mean "Python 3". Users installing and running Python or Python packages without specifying a version will get Python 3. Running python wi

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: Python means Python3

2019-06-28 Thread mcatanzaro
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 5:51 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: Actually I think it makes more sense that F31 provides no /usr/bin/python. Then a lot of things which depend on it can be found and fixed since they have not adapted to the Future any other way. It would mean we have no chance of ma

Re: adding speech installation to fedora network installation image

2019-06-28 Thread stan via devel
On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 22:01:23 +0200 Mmobilea wrote: > OK. If you can, open a new bug. Because of the response of mcatanzaro, Only the live image runs in a GNOME session where GNOME session services like orca are expected to be working. The netinstall image only runs anaconda, it doesn't run GN

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: Python means Python3

2019-06-28 Thread mcatanzaro
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:42 AM, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: If Fedora has /usr/bin/python, then at least we have a *chance* to make the scripts we care about work in both python2 and python3 (our current plan). Whereas without /usr/bin/python, we're really out of options. So I very much supp

Re: adding speech installation to fedora network installation image

2019-06-28 Thread mcatanzaro
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:44 AM, stan via devel wrote: it doesn't make sense to open a bug. There is no gnome, and because adding gnome would make the image too large, it will not be added. Netinstall is a minimal image meant to be used from virtual consoles with no graphical support. But re

Re: always update the bootloader during major upgrades

2019-06-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2019-06-28 at 09:18 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > That's, easy, > > 1. add a generic bootctl install command that knows the different > variants of bootloader used in Fedora, how to install them, how to > identify which variant is appropriate for a system (make grub and other >

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: Python means Python3

2019-06-28 Thread Martin Kolman
On Thu, 2019-06-27 at 18:51 -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 at 18:49, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > What about postponing this change to F32? I'd prefer python2 to be > > > > > retired and gone from the distro first, and the symlink and > > > > > %python_provide definition onl

proposal for changing the "Nonresponsive maintainer" policy

2019-06-28 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Please see https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2149#comment-579981 for the full text of the latest proposal. The biggest change is that the reporter would have less work to do (fesco would take care of sending reminders from its ticket), and the reported would normally be assigned comaintainership right

Re: adding speech installation to fedora network installation image

2019-06-28 Thread Martin Kolman
On Fri, 2019-06-28 at 10:50 -0500, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:44 AM, stan via devel > wrote: > > it doesn't make sense to open a bug. There is no gnome, and because > > adding gnome would make the image too large, it will not be added. > > Netinstall is a minimal im

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2019-06-28)

2019-06-28 Thread Petr Šabata
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2019-06-28) === Meeting started by contyk at 15:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-06-28/fesco.2019-06-28-15.00.log.html Meeting summary --

Re: always update the bootloader during major upgrades

2019-06-28 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le vendredi 28 juin 2019 à 09:06 -0700, Adam Williamson a écrit : > On Fri, 2019-06-28 at 09:18 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > > That's, easy, > > > > 1. add a generic bootctl install command that knows the different > > variants of bootloader used in Fedora, how to install them, how to

Re: adding speech installation to fedora network installation image

2019-06-28 Thread mcatanzaro
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 11:13 AM, Martin Kolman wrote: Certainly - but I'm afraid we in the Anaconda team don't have any experience what all needs to be available (what packages should be included & what services started) to make text-to-speech work on the image. We would definitely welcome so

adding speech installation to fedora network installation image

2019-06-28 Thread Mmobilea
The fedora media writer isn’t accessible with nvda, the screenreader on windows. I will use Rufus. Thank you for answer. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Co

Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: Python means Python3

2019-06-28 Thread Mátyás Selmeci
On 06/28/19 10:46, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:42 AM, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: >> If Fedora has /usr/bin/python, then at least we have a *chance* to make the >> scripts we care about work in both python2 and python3 (our current plan). >> Whereas without /usr/bi

Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: Move test.support module to python3-test subpackage

2019-06-28 Thread Yaakov Selkowitz
On Fri, 2019-06-28 at 09:25 +0200, Lumir Balhar wrote: > On 6/25/19 12:25 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 25. 06. 19 12:07, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:48:42AM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > On 25. 06. 19 9:50, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I would

Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: Qt Wayland By Default on Gnome

2019-06-28 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Qt_Wayland_By_Default_On_Gnome == Summary == Make Qt applications to run natively on Gnome Wayland session, using the Qt Wayland platform plugin instead of the XCB plugin which is used for X11/XWayland. Other desktop environments already run natively on Wayla

Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: Qt Wayland By Default on Gnome

2019-06-28 Thread Kevin Kofler
Quoting from the proposal: > Qt Wayland plugin has been available for a long time, but it hasn't > been in condition where it could be enabled by default. With Qt 5.12 > the state of the Wayland plugin is much better and it's becoming more > and more reliable. It now supports all the needed protoco

Re: always update the bootloader during major upgrades

2019-06-28 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 1:19 AM Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > > Le jeudi 27 juin 2019 à 12:26 -0600, Chris Murphy a écrit : > > Yep, small problem. And I'm not even sure how a 'grub2-install' on > > BIOS systems would be initiated only at major upgrade time. But even > > Fedora Rawhide does cha

Re: New Go Packaging Guidelines landed in rawhide (koji) today

2019-06-28 Thread Robin Lee
On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 10:35 PM Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > > Hi, > > Fedora’s new Go packaging macros landed in rawhide (koji) today. > > The corresponding Fedora Go packaging conventions are therefore > EFFECTIVE for new rawhide builds. For the first time in Fedora’s > history, we will be