Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-01-07 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life I plan to

Re: Problem with portaudio linking

2019-01-07 Thread Michal Ruprich
On 1/4/19 12:19 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 10:41:46 +0100, Michal Ruprich wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> has anyone encountered a problem on F28 when building a package that >> uses portaudio? I was building newer version of wireshark a month ago >> and -lportaudio worked fine. Now the

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-01-07 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 08:58:06AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Depending on: lzma (23), status change: 2017-10-10 (64 weeks ago) > afflib (maintained by: kwizart, rebus) > afflib-3.7.16-7.fc29.src requires lzma-devel = 4.32.7-21.fc29 afflib was rebuilt this morning without the

Re: Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2019-01-07)

2019-01-07 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 03:05:14PM -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the > FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on > irc.freenode.net. > = New business = > > #topic #2021 F30 Change: Migrate Python-based Nautilus extensions to >

Re: Who is the fedora sponsor for aqsis ?

2019-01-07 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 05. 01. 19 v 19:57 Stephen John Smoogen napsal(a): > On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 04:10, J. Scheurich wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Still searching for a wdune fedora sponsor. >> Who is the fedora sponsor for aqsis ? > The maintainers for aqsis can be found from: > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/aqsis and

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-01-07 Thread Leigh Scott
> Note: If you received this mail directly you (co)maintain one of the affected > packages or a package that depends on one. Please adopt the affected package > or > retire your depending package to avoid broken dependencies, otherwise your > package will be retired when the affected package gets

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-01-07 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 07. 01. 19 11:09, Leigh Scott wrote: Note: If you received this mail directly you (co)maintain one of the affected packages or a package that depends on one. Please adopt the affected package or retire your depending package to avoid broken dependencies, otherwise your package will be retire

Re: Review Swap - netatalk and dymo-cups-drivers

2019-01-07 Thread Nikola Forró
On Sat, 2019-01-05 at 14:35 +, Andrew Bauer wrote: > I've got a couple of review requests in need of a reviewer: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1659709 Hello, I'll review dymo-cups-drivers, could you review qt5-qtpbfimageformat [1] in return? Thanks, Nikola [1] https://bug

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-01-07 Thread Leigh Scott
> > You should adapt cinnamon away from lzma. > I will retire lzma, you need to take it or deal with that. Cinnamon never required lzma, it was it's 'Requires: openbox' that generated the deps issue. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-01-07 Thread Leigh Scott
@mhroncok Can you rerun the broken deps generator again as kio-extras is fixed, the list will be a lot shorter :-) https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1177618 ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-01-07 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 01:10:55PM -, Leigh Scott wrote: > > > > > You should adapt cinnamon away from lzma. > > I will retire lzma, you need to take it or deal with that. > > Cinnamon never required lzma, it was it's 'Requires: openbox' that generated > the deps issue. The dependency is

Self Introduction - Jan Macku

2019-01-07 Thread Jan Macku
Hi all, I've recently joined Red Hat in Brno, Czech Republic. I'll be working part-time in "Plumbers team" and I'll be helping out with maintenance of low-level packages like systemd, dracut and initscripts. Best regards, Jan Macku ___ devel mailing lis

Re: Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2019-01-07)

2019-01-07 Thread Randy Barlow
On Mon, 2019-01-07 at 10:08 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Let's add https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2047 > #2047 Need +1: policy change re. module default stream changes & > Fedora Changes Added. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part _

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20190107.n.0 changes

2019-01-07 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20190106.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20190107.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:2 Dropped images: 6 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 22 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:0 B Size

Fedora Rawhide-20190107.n.0 compose check report

2019-01-07 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check! 6 of 47 required tests failed, 4 results missing openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** below Failed openQA tests: 22/131 (x86_64), 1/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test not fa

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-01-07 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 07. 01. 19 14:22, Leigh Scott wrote: @mhroncok Can you rerun the broken deps generator again as kio-extras is fixed, the list will be a lot shorter :-) It won't be that shorter, I can rerun it, but please wait for a compose and mirrors and stuff. -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800

Re: debugfs ACL

2019-01-07 Thread Mikhail Gavrilov
I found that here blame patch 201 efi-lockdown.patch. I was build kernel with fedpkg without this patch and problem was gone. # cat /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/amdgpu_gca_config | xxd -e - : 0003 0004 0004 0010 0010: 0001 0004 0010 0100 .

Re: Review Swap - netatalk and dymo-cups-drivers

2019-01-07 Thread Andrew Bauer
Thanks! I'll get on it. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.o

F30 System-Wide Change proposal: GNOME 3.32

2019-01-07 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GNOME3.32 = GNOME 3.32 = == Summary == Update GNOME to the latest upstream release, 3.32. == Owner == * Name: [[User:Kalev| Kalev Lember]] * Email: klem...@redhat.com * Product: Workstation * Responsible WG: Workstation == Detailed Description == The new f

FINAL REMINDER: System-Wide & Mass Rebuild Change proposals due Tuesday

2019-01-07 Thread Ben Cotton
This is your final reminder that System-Wide Change proposals and Change proposals that require a mass rebuild are due by the end of the day on Tuesday 8 January. Self-Contained changes are due 29 January. For more information on Changes, see the Changes Policy page[1] on the Fedora Wiki. [1] htt

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-01-07 Thread Gwyn Ciesla
On 1/7/19 1:58 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know > for sure > that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper > reason: > https://fedoraproject.org/wik

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-01-07 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 07. 01. 19 15:52, Gwyn Ciesla wrote:>> pygtk2    alexl, alt-gtk-de-sig,   0 weeks ago   caillon, caolanm, gnome-sig,   johnp, orphan, raveit65,   rhughes, rstrode,

Re: debugfs ACL

2019-01-07 Thread Dan Horák
On Mon, 07 Jan 2019 14:36:16 - "Mikhail Gavrilov" wrote: > I found that here blame patch 201 efi-lockdown.patch. > I was build kernel with fedpkg without this patch and problem was > gone. > > # cat /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/amdgpu_gca_config | xxd -e - > : 0003 0004 0004

HIH: fedoraproject.org repositories url fix

2019-01-07 Thread Pavel Valena
In case someone finds the cloned repositories no longer work (missing `rpms` in url), run in folder with said repositories: ``` ls -d * | xargs -i bash -c "cd {} || exit 255 ; git status &>/dev/null || exit 1 ; git remote -v | grep ^origin | tr -s '\t' ' ' | cut -d' ' -f2 | grep -v rpms | sort

F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DNF_UUID == Summary == Right now, we estimate installed Fedora systems by counting unique IP addresses which show up in our updates mirror statistics. We need better data than that. There are some proposals for more complicated systems, but a quick thing we

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2019-01-07)

2019-01-07 Thread Randy Barlow
= #fedora-meeting-1: FESCO (2019-01-07) = Meeting started by bowlofeggs at 15:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-01-07/fesco.2019-01-07-15.00.log.html . Meetin

Maintainance of trafficserver package

2019-01-07 Thread Björn 'besser82' Esser
Hello, are there any plans to fix the package from FTBFS state since Fedora 25? Does anybody disagree with me updating that package to the recent upstream release (8.0.1)? Cheers, Björn aka besser82 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part __

Maintainance of mesos package

2019-01-07 Thread Björn 'besser82' Esser
Hello, are there any plans to fix the package from FTBFS state since Fedora 25? Does anybody disagree with me updating that package to the recent upstream release (1.7.0)? Cheers, Björn aka besser82 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part __

Unretirement of js-jquery2

2019-01-07 Thread Vít Ondruch
Nice, so the script is broken and does not report the dependencies correctly [1] and now js-jquery2 went unnoticed and get retired although it is required by rubygem-jquery-rails, similarly to js-jquery1. I'm going to ask for unretirement and I hope I did not miss the two week window. Vít [1] ht

Re: Unretirement of js-jquery2

2019-01-07 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 07. 01. 19 v 18:13 Vít Ondruch napsal(a): > Nice, so the script is broken and does not report the dependencies > correctly [1] and now js-jquery2 went unnoticed and get retired although > it is required by rubygem-jquery-rails, similarly to js-jquery1. I'm > going to ask for unretirement and I

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 07.01.19 11:34, Ben Cotton (bcot...@redhat.com) wrote: > === Constraints === > * The Fedora community cares about privacy and is adverse to tracking > measures. We don't want to track; just count. Uh, so what's the story there? i mean, if you pass over the uuid you make clients trackable,

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread John Harris
On Monday, January 7, 2019 11:34:47 AM EST Ben Cotton wrote: > The Fedora community cares about privacy and is adverse to tracking > measures. We don't want to track; just count. If this is ever implemented, we should probably notify end users and provide an easy way to disable this. If you pass

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 06:24:14PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > * The Fedora community cares about privacy and is adverse to tracking > > measures. We don't want to track; just count. > Uh, so what's the story there? i mean, if you pass over the uuid you > make clients trackable, regardless

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 12:30:53PM -0500, John Harris wrote: > > The Fedora community cares about privacy and is adverse to tracking > > measures. We don't want to track; just count. > If this is ever implemented, we should probably notify end users and provide > an easy way to disable this. If yo

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 12:32, John Harris wrote: > > On Monday, January 7, 2019 11:34:47 AM EST Ben Cotton wrote: > > The Fedora community cares about privacy and is adverse to tracking > > measures. We don't want to track; just count. > > If this is ever implemented, we should probably notify end

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread John Harris
On Monday, January 7, 2019 1:29:42 PM EST Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 12:30:53PM -0500, John Harris wrote: > > > > The Fedora community cares about privacy and is adverse to tracking > > > measures. We don't want to track; just count. > > > > If this is ever implemented, we sh

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Florian Weimer
* Matthew Miller: > On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 12:30:53PM -0500, John Harris wrote: >> > The Fedora community cares about privacy and is adverse to tracking >> > measures. We don't want to track; just count. >> If this is ever implemented, we should probably notify end users and provide >> an easy w

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 07:39:08PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> If this is ever implemented, we should probably notify end users and > >> provide > >> an easy way to disable this. If you pass an identifier, that enables > >> client > >> tracking. > > I agree -- it'll go in the release note

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Matthew Miller said: > Hmmm. We have fedora.pool.ntp.org, in fact. I'm not sure who actually runs > that! That's the public NTP pool, which is usually the best option if you don't want to (or have the resources for) operate your own NTP infrastructure. -- Chris Adams _

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-01-07 Thread Sérgio Basto
searching by pygtk2 we have 367 matches , it is all to be retired ? dnf repoquery --disablerepo='*' --enablerepo=rawhide --enablerepo=rpmfusion-{,non}free-rawhide --available --whatrequi res pygtk2 --alldeps --qf "%{repoid} %{sourcerpm}" --quiet | sed 's|\(-[^-]\+\)\{2\}src.rpm||' | sort raw

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 07.01.19 13:32, Stephen John Smoogen (smo...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 12:32, John Harris wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 7, 2019 11:34:47 AM EST Ben Cotton wrote: > > > The Fedora community cares about privacy and is adverse to tracking > > > measures. We don't want to t

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Mark Otaris
This change would appear more acceptable if it was combined with removing the Fedora user agent patch for Firefox (https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/firefox/blob/master/f/firefox-fedora-ua.patch), which is simultaneously a worse privacy risk and a worse way to count users than randomized UUIDs

sqlite + django pains and serious bodhi confusion

2019-01-07 Thread John Florian
After upgrading this morning I ran into some nasty issues with sqlite-3.26.0-1.fc29 which seems utterly broken now with python3-django-2.0.9-1.fc29 as described in this bug[0].  I thought I'd start by consulting https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?packages=sqlite to see what changed but m

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 07.01.19 13:28, Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: > On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 06:24:14PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > * The Fedora community cares about privacy and is adverse to tracking > > > measures. We don't want to track; just count. > > Uh, so what's the story

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
Is this data only going to be sent to the metalink or do the mirrors actually used, get the data? Is the data going to be sent along with requests to non-Fedora repos (e.g. rpmfusion)? This will make it much easier to spoof being lots of systems. Is there some plan to mitigate this risk? I

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 08:27:00PM -, Mark Otaris wrote: > This change would appear more acceptable if it was combined with removing > the Fedora user agent patch for Firefox > (https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/firefox/blob/master/f/firefox-fedora-ua.patch), > which is simultaneously a worse

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 09:33:51PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > I wonder if it is worth introducing an entirely new tracking concept > here if you actually don't want to track but just count. The NTP > approach has the benefit that you introduce no new tracking concept at > all, but you just

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread John Harris
On Monday, January 7, 2019 3:27:39 PM EST Bruno Wolff III wrote: > Are the UUIDs going to be sanity checked so that NSFW UUIDs don't show up > in reports? I don't see how a UUID could possibly be NSFW, or why UUIDs would ever be included in reports regardless. The point is supposedly counting, n

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread John Harris
On Monday, January 7, 2019 3:18:10 PM EST Lennart Poettering wrote: > hence my recommendation to derive the any uuid for purposes like this > from /etc/machine-id, by using a HMAC of some kind (see other mail). I really don't think that this should be derived in any way from a machine id, if it r

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: krb5 crypto modernization

2019-01-07 Thread Robbie Harwood
Adam Williamson writes: > On Thu, 2019-01-03 at 22:40 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > >> But to be fair, MIT krb5 is not known for having great error output. >> Not being able to start at all because the K/M has an enctype which is >> acceptable and not at all deprecated according to the doc

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 15:19, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mo, 07.01.19 13:32, Stephen John Smoogen (smo...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 12:32, John Harris wrote: > > > > > > On Monday, January 7, 2019 11:34:47 AM EST Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > The Fedora community cares about

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 04:04:24PM -0500, John Harris wrote: > On Monday, January 7, 2019 3:18:10 PM EST Lennart Poettering wrote: > > hence my recommendation to derive the any uuid for purposes like this > > from /etc/machine-id, by using a HMAC of some kind (see other mail). > > I really don't t

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 11:34:47AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > == Summary == > Right now, we estimate installed Fedora systems by counting unique IP > addresses which show up in our updates mirror statistics. We need > better data than that. There are some proposals for more complicated > systems, b

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mo, 07.01.19 16:04, John Harris (joh...@splentity.com) wrote: > On Monday, January 7, 2019 3:18:10 PM EST Lennart Poettering wrote: > > hence my recommendation to derive the any uuid for purposes like this > > from /etc/machine-id, by using a HMAC of some kind (see other mail). > > I really don

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread John Harris
On Monday, January 7, 2019 4:32:04 PM EST Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mo, 07.01.19 16:04, John Harris (joh...@splentity.com) wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 7, 2019 3:18:10 PM EST Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > > hence my recommendation to derive the any uuid for purposes like this > > >

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Kevin Kofler
Lennart Poettering wrote: > BTW, iirc intel used to count installations through the http ping > check in their captive portal detection. Fedora runs a similar service > which is used by NM, no? maybe that's a nicer solution too: add a http > header field to the ping check that each client sets to "

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 16:00:46 -0500, John Harris wrote: On Monday, January 7, 2019 3:27:39 PM EST Bruno Wolff III wrote: Are the UUIDs going to be sanity checked so that NSFW UUIDs don't show up in reports? I don't see how a UUID could possibly be NSFW, or why UUIDs would ever be included

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread John Harris
On Monday, January 7, 2019 4:29:02 PM EST Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > If the sd_id128_get_machine_app_specific/... mechanism is used, this > could be added to previous releases in a dnf update. This is an additional > advantage over having a indepdent uuid for this. If we do go forward wi

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread John Harris
On Monday, January 7, 2019 4:31:29 PM EST Bruno Wolff III wrote: > If the strings aren't checked when they are received, they could be > anything. > The system varient also has the same issue. You shouldn't trust > the clients supplying this information. If we are just using this UUID to count m

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 16:41:46 -0500, John Harris wrote: On Monday, January 7, 2019 4:31:29 PM EST Bruno Wolff III wrote: If the strings aren't checked when they are received, they could be anything. The system varient also has the same issue. You shouldn't trust the clients supplying this

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019, 7:31 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 06:24:14PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > * The Fedora community cares about privacy and is adverse to tracking > > > measures. We don't want to track; just count. > > Uh, so what's the story there? i mean, if yo

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 15:34, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mo, 07.01.19 13:28, Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 06:24:14PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > * The Fedora community cares about privacy and is adverse to tracking > > > > measure

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 4:55 PM Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 16:41:46 -0500, > John Harris wrote: > >On Monday, January 7, 2019 4:31:29 PM EST Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >> If the strings aren't checked when they are received, they could be > >> anything. > >> The system var

Re: sqlite + django pains and serious bodhi confusion

2019-01-07 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "JF" == John Florian writes: JF> I thought I'd start by consulting JF> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?packages=sqlite to see what JF> changed but much to my surprise the newest build I see there is JF> sqlite-3.22.0-5.fc28! Huh? Where are the f29 builds? First, note that Bodhi do

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread John Harris
On Monday, January 7, 2019 5:00:48 PM EST Stephen Gallagher wrote: > I think the only useful data we could get from unknown variants would > be "the number of times we see an unknown variant". So I think > throwing it away and just incrementing a counter of "the number of > times people have tried

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ben Cotton wrote: > systems, but a quick thing we can do is implement a per-system UUID > (unique identifier) and count that instead of IP addresses. Please no! This is an inherent privacy violation. I hate software doing this and I always opt out of it. I find it especially worrying that Free So

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 17:04:11 -0500, John Harris wrote: On Monday, January 7, 2019 5:00:48 PM EST Stephen Gallagher wrote: I think the only useful data we could get from unknown variants would be "the number of times we see an unknown variant". So I think throwing it away and just increment

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 22:54:46 +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: You could move the rotation to the client by hashing the UUID with a timestamp of sufficiently coarse granularity (a week?) before submitting it. Then you make sure that all UUIDs submitted by a given machine during a given time wind

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-01-07 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 07. 01. 19 21:11, Sérgio Basto wrote: searching by pygtk2 we have 367 matches , it is all to be retired ? No, Gwyn already took it. -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To u

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread John Harris
On Monday, January 7, 2019 5:20:55 PM EST Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 22:54:46 +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: > > So this allows better tracking than if you just had to go by IP, time and > other information in the requests. Keep in mind that we do not want tracking, at all. Ju

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-01-07 Thread Stuart D. Gathman
On Mon, 7 Jan 2019, Miro Hrončok wrote: The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure ... pygtk2alexl, alt-gtk-de-sig, 0 weeks ago

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 17:44:59 -0500, John Harris wrote: We don't need to be thinking of more things to track about the user, but ways to prevent tracking and still get the counts the Council wants. There are two mutually opposed sides here. The users need to consider how they might be at

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: krb5 crypto modernization

2019-01-07 Thread Robbie Harwood
Jason L Tibbitts III writes: >> "RH" == Robbie Harwood writes: > > RH> I really don't think that "it won't work and there'll be error > RH> messages" is an "extremely optimistic description". > > But to be fair, MIT krb5 is not known for having great error output. I've spent a nontrivial am

Re: Unretirement of js-jquery2

2019-01-07 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 07. 01. 19 18:13, Vít Ondruch wrote: Nice, so the script is broken and does not report the dependencies correctly [1] and now js-jquery2 went unnoticed and get retired although it is required by rubygem-jquery-rails, similarly to js-jquery1. This is interesting. 1. js-jquery2 provides jque

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-01-07 Thread mcatanzaro
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 4:57 PM, Stuart D. Gathman wrote: retiring pygtk2 retires most of Fedora desktops and gui apps, from Gnome-shell to cinnamon to openbox. ;-) Hm, sounds like there is a bad dependency in the chain somewhere. pygtk2 is very much obsolete and should be allowed to disappear

Re: Orphaned packages to be retired

2019-01-07 Thread Kevin Kofler
mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 4:57 PM, Stuart D. Gathman > wrote: >> retiring pygtk2 retires most of Fedora desktops and gui apps, from >> Gnome-shell to cinnamon to openbox. ;-) > > Hm, sounds like there is a bad dependency in the chain somewhere. > pygtk2 is very much obs

Re: sqlite + django pains and serious bodhi confusion

2019-01-07 Thread John Florian
On 1/7/19 5:04 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >> "JF" == John Florian writes: > JF> I thought I'd start by consulting > JF> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?packages=sqlite to see what > JF> changed but much to my surprise the newest build I see there is > JF> sqlite-3.22.0-5.fc28! Hu

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 04:36:38PM -0500, John Harris wrote: > My suggestion was not because of some fear that the machine ID would be > leaked, but rather my personal opinion that this UUID should not be derived > in > any way from the machine ID. John, what's the concern there? I agree that

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 02:27:39PM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > Is this data only going to be sent to the metalink or do the mirrors > actually used, get the data? That's a good question. > Is the data going to be sent along with requests to non-Fedora repos > (e.g. rpmfusion)? Also a good qu

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 04:06:52PM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >I have to say that I actually disagree with this. It is possible that Fedora > >Remixes could send the variant as being the name of their Remix. While my > >Remix wouldn't do this (it is privacy oriented, and ensures only free > >s

[389-devel] 389 DS nightly 2019-01-08 - 92% PASS

2019-01-07 Thread vashirov
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[Bug 1663848] Upgrade perl-ExtUtils-F77 to 1.23

2019-01-07 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1663848 Orion Poplawski changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |CLOSED Fixed In Version|

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 11:09:48PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Please no! This is an inherent privacy violation. I hate software doing this > and I always opt out of it. I find it especially worrying that Free Software > is now doing this more and more often, this used to be something only > pr

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Modularity WG (weekly)

2019-01-07 Thread nils
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Modularity WG (weekly) on 2019-01-08 from 15:00:00 to 16:00:00 UTC At fedora-meetin...@irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Meeting of the Modularity Working Group. More information available at: [Modularity Working Group wiki page](

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matthew Miller wrote: > Since there is no personal information attached, I don't see how on the > face of it this is a privacy violation. I want to take this concern > seriously, but I need more to go on than "this is inherent". Can you > elaborate? I detailed it further down my message: my concer

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: krb5 crypto modernization

2019-01-07 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "RH" == Robbie Harwood writes: RH> I've spent a nontrivial amount of time working on improving that, RH> but am always willing to process more bugs in the RH> documentation/errors area. I know, and I don't mean to denigrate any work that's been done in making the MIT KRB stack better. It'

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Peter Robinson
> > Since there is no personal information attached, I don't see how on the > > face of it this is a privacy violation. I want to take this concern > > seriously, but I need more to go on than "this is inherent". Can you > > elaborate? > > I detailed it further down my message: my concern is that t

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Christopher Tubbs
A few concerns/comments (inline): > === The problem === > > * A. Currently, we can only count Fedora OS use by observing IP > addresses. This is subject to undercounting due to NAT — and to > overcounting due to short DHCP leases and laptops moving between work > or school and home or coffee shop

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 21:43:46 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 02:27:39PM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: Is this going to happen on install or upgrade before there is a chance to turn it off? Maybe? Keep in mind that you are _already_ contacting the mirror systems when

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread John Harris
On Tuesday, January 8, 2019 12:32:45 AM EST Bruno Wolff III wrote: > The cost for pretending to be lots of machines is also reduced a lot in > this scheme over having to connect from lots of different IP addresses. > Though at some point spoofing too many would probably be considered > a denial

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 00:44:26 -0500, John Harris wrote: On Tuesday, January 8, 2019 12:32:45 AM EST Bruno Wolff III wrote: The cost for pretending to be lots of machines is also reduced a lot in this scheme over having to connect from lots of different IP addresses. Though at some point spo

Fedora Atomic Host Two Week Release Announcement: 29.20190107.0

2019-01-07 Thread noreply
A new Fedora Atomic Host update is available via an OSTree update: Version: 29.20190107.0 Commit(x86_64): 822093aa47c985d24d5f3a40ad213d68f7734be3bff872c757d39315048691a4 Commit(aarch64): 998b38c152b6808d7fa277eddadf87e5b2f73d923793328cff7985e67fa401bd Commit(ppc64le): 82d4e740198440c3f7fcab41a

Re: F30: System-Wide Change proposal: DNF UUID

2019-01-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 22:00:25 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: Since there is no personal information attached, I don't see how on the face of it this is a privacy violation. I want to take this concern seriously, but I need more to go on than "this is inherent". Can you elaborate? From the u